Sir Keir Starmer !

While we're at it, lets close all the pubs. Most operate on the margins, make on average 12p profit per pint, cannot afford to pay their staff that well. Feck 'em. Who needs pubs right? if they cannot keep it viable and pay staff generously, then don't try and support them, 10 close every week anyway, let them die

Hold on.let me get my tiny violin.

"But hey, their concerns are hot air and bluster. Feck em, right, if they cannot be a success who needs them."
You wanna preach capitalism, Market forces my good
man.
Biatching about a relatively small increase in overheads after the unprecedented support SMEs have had over
the last few years is laughable,. Nobody is denying the importance both economically and socially of small businesses but they are not sacrosanct and untouchable ffs!

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 16 minutes ago
While we're at it, lets close all the pubs. Most operate on the margins, make on average 12p profit per pint, cannot afford to pay their staff that well. Feck 'em. Who needs pubs right? if they cannot keep it viable and pay staff generously, then don't try and support them, 10 close every week anyway, let them die
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If your business model includes paying your staff the legal minimum that isn't livable on then yeah fack em. What good is a business who's staff rely on govt help or foodbanks to get by week on week?

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 10 minutes ago
Hold on.let me get my tiny violin.

"But hey, their concerns are hot air and bluster. Feck em, right, if they cannot be a success who needs them."
You wanna preach capitalism, Market forces my good
man.
Biatching about a relatively small increase in overheads after the unprecedented support SMEs have had over
the last few years is laughable,. Nobody is denying the importance both economically and socially of small businesses but they are not sacrosanct and untouchable ffs!
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Again, £25bn raised does not represent a small cost on businesses.

No one is sacrosanct but if you are preaching about bringing back stability and growth, this action does not achieve that.

What you are saying is that, if businesses cannot run themselves well enough to absorb these costs then so be it, good buy!

And what will be the out come of this. Unemployment ✅ increased welfare costs ✅less/no growth✅increased poverty✅

Not increasing taxes is not supporting a sector, it's to maintain the status quo.

Lowering their taxes is to support a sector.

Increasing their taxes is to attack the sector.

Labour are harming the sector and while I appreciate that there is a need to increase funding for public services, to do this through taxing all businesses is completely contradictory to their manifesto promises to bring stability and growth to the economy, and will also undermine their ongoing plans if the growth is lower than projected.

These actions will increase costs, so will increase prices and inflation and the knock on from this will be felt by Labour's "working people" through their cost of living.

BTW the tax rises seen, mainly through NI, are the biggest in a generation (since 1993). You can call them 'small increases' but that is to brush over the facts!

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
BTW the tax rises seen, mainly through NI, are the biggest in a generation (since 1993). You can call them 'small increases' but that is to brush over the facts!
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The geveral tax payer has seen the highest taxes since WW2 implemented by the last Tory gov. In work benefits have risen and so have working people using food banks and classed as being in in work poverty.

We've seen over the last 14 years tax cuts only serve to enrich CEO's and shareholders and those intent on avoiding paying their fair share.

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
BTW the tax rises seen, mainly through NI, are the biggest in a generation (since 1993). You can call them 'small increases' but that is to brush over the facts!
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The geveral tax payer has seen the highest taxes since WW2 implemented by the last Tory gov. In work benefits have risen and so have working people using food banks and classed as being in in work poverty.

We've seen over the last 14 years tax cuts only serve to enrich CEO's and shareholders and those intent on avoiding paying their fair share.
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Right, so what have the Govt done to target these CEOs and shareholders, and those avoiding paying their tax?

Oh, that's right, nothing! They hit pensioners, they've hit all businesses indiscriminately in an area that effects cost and growth.

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
BTW the tax rises seen, mainly through NI, are the biggest in a generation (since 1993). You can call them 'small increases' but that is to brush over the facts!
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The geveral tax payer has seen the highest taxes since WW2 implemented by the last Tory gov. In work benefits have risen and so have working people using food banks and classed as being in in work poverty.

We've seen over the last 14 years tax cuts only serve to enrich CEO's and shareholders and those intent on avoiding paying their fair share.
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Right, so what have the Govt done to target these CEOs and shareholders, and those avoiding paying their tax?

Oh, that's right, nothing! They hit pensioners, they've hit all businesses indiscriminately in an area that effects cost and growth.

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Exactly!

Daniel Hobbs, managing director at New Leaf Distribution a guy who’s in a better position than Hector and FannyAnnie has said “It feels like the whole economy has deteriorated since the budget."

However Hector and FannyAnnie won’t admit it!

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 13 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
BTW the tax rises seen, mainly through NI, are the biggest in a generation (since 1993). You can call them 'small increases' but that is to brush over the facts!
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The geveral tax payer has seen the highest taxes since WW2 implemented by the last Tory gov. In work benefits have risen and so have working people using food banks and classed as being in in work poverty.

We've seen over the last 14 years tax cuts only serve to enrich CEO's and shareholders and those intent on avoiding paying their fair share.
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Right, so what have the Govt done to target these CEOs and shareholders, and those avoiding paying their tax?

Oh, that's right, nothing! They hit pensioners, they've hit all businesses indiscriminately in an area that effects cost and growth.

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Sorry you expect them to have fixed 14 years of the Tories letting CEO's and shareholders off and giving them tax breaks in 4 months

If yourself and Red had got your way in the election we would've got through 2 Education Secretaries and had a reshuffle by now.

I don't think 2 people, yourself and Red, who voted for more wasted money on things like Rwanda are in a position to bleat about this government, fiscal responsibility or budgets.

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 13 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
BTW the tax rises seen, mainly through NI, are the biggest in a generation (since 1993). You can call them 'small increases' but that is to brush over the facts!
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The geveral tax payer has seen the highest taxes since WW2 implemented by the last Tory gov. In work benefits have risen and so have working people using food banks and classed as being in in work poverty.

We've seen over the last 14 years tax cuts only serve to enrich CEO's and shareholders and those intent on avoiding paying their fair share.
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Right, so what have the Govt done to target these CEOs and shareholders, and those avoiding paying their tax?

Oh, that's right, nothing! They hit pensioners, they've hit all businesses indiscriminately in an area that effects cost and growth.

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Sorry you expect them to have fixed 14 years of the Tories letting CEO's and shareholders off and giving them tax breaks in 4 months

If yourself and Red had got your way in the election we would've got through 2 Education Secretaries and had a reshuffle by now.

I don't think 2 people, yourself and Red, who voted for more wasted money on things like Rwanda are in a position to bleat about this government, fiscal responsibility or budgets.
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"We've seen over the last 14 years tax cuts only serve to enrich CEO's and shareholders and those intent on avoiding paying their fair share."


So these tax cuts, what are they?.....Whatever they are, reverse them, right. Surely that's easy.

Oh, but then they made a promise about not affecting personal taxes so even if they wanted a 50p rate or a 55p rate on the wealthy, they couldnt, because of the stupid feckin red line they drew to get over the election line.

Those with the broadest shoulders have barely been touched by this budget.

Open season on pensioners & businesses & family farms though

And as for immigration, Rwanda was an unpleasant policy to address a very difficult problem, and most people would not feel comfortable with it.

But what is Labours plan? "Smash the gangs" a lovely slogan.

+1000 came over on boats last week, in winter.

And they have refused to put any limit on immigration, they just said they will sort it

I am fine criticising some Tory policies which would not get my vote, but so far this almost impossible problem also has no solution from Labour, not even an embryo of a solution, just slogans.