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Ange's 2nd Season claims

This is (for once) not designed as a wind-up but a genuine disbelief at Ange's ludicrous claims that Spurs will win a trophy this season.

Now putting aside Spurs' recent trophy dodging history, as i think you will win something sooner rather than later, but what a silly pressure building thing to say. I mean, apart from Pep, no Manager can say for certain that he will win a trophy.

I mean be bullish and positive and rally the troops by all means but this isn't the 2 horse race sweaty sock league so what was he thinking?

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted 3 days, 21 hours ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
Not sure if it’s true but I saw a stat that Spurs have 4 (four) clean sheets in the past 37 games snd that they’d not beaten a top six side in 12 months.

Can’t see them winning anything tbh.
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yup

away form garbage and whl hardly a fortress

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted 3 days, 21 hours ago

The Europa League has the added bonus of getting you into the champions league, and pot 1 I believe, so both Utd and Spurs should be focussed on that, especially as the CL places could be tight again come the end of the season. But it's hard to be truly successful at Spurs - they went to compete with the big boys, without matching their spending

posted 3 days, 21 hours ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 19 minutes ago
Not sure if it’s true but I saw a stat that Spurs have 4 (four) clean sheets in the past 37 games snd that they’d not beaten a top six side in 12 months.

Can’t see them winning anything tbh.
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Unfortunately very true and don’t forget we finished 5th and a couple of points off 4th last season - yet people won’t here it when you say the league has been shiete in terms of quality for a couple of years outside of City, Arsenal and at times Liverpool. A 10 game run was all it took for us and we’re well capable of going on another streaky run post Brighton away

posted 3 days, 21 hours ago

comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 40 seconds ago
The Europa League has the added bonus of getting you into the champions league, and pot 1 I believe, so both Utd and Spurs should be focussed on that, especially as the CL places could be tight again come the end of the season. But it's hard to be truly successful at Spurs - they went to compete with the big boys, without matching their spending
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We spend plenty - it’s a big myth we don’t spend. 4th highest in the summer, including the biggest single fee on any one player. We’re about 4/5th on that list over the last 5 years.

Where we don’t spend is on wages, our turnover to wages is still the best in the league and we have more FFP than any other club largely because of this.

Our income is elite level with the stadium a money printing machine.

Our actual problem is lack of long term footballing strategy - Levy never commits and you just know he will be getting twitchy over Ange right now

posted 3 days, 21 hours ago

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 32 minutes ago
I don't really care about trophies yet. I just want to see progress in his second year. If we go on a serious run and finish top 3-4 I'd be happy with that as a sign we're heading in the right direction. The moment we get driven entirely by trophies alone, especially something as meaningless as the Carabao Cup, we'll lose sight of what we're trying to build. I want to see us build something to compete at the very top rather than focus on a cup anyone with a decent draw can win.

Your bread and butter, the thing that really measures how good you are, is the league. We're not even close to getting that right yet so I'd just focus on better and more consistent performing and then the trophies will come.

Europa would be prestigious enough a tournament to win as a measure of a progressing side. I'd take that in a heartbeat. The FA Cup and the League Cup can be won by anyone with a decent draw and a bit of luck.
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Would take 15th plus the Europa or 10th plus the League cup right now.

Bored of finishing in CL spots then falling back again. Growing up we were THE cup side and usually nowhere in the league. I’d take finishing 10th for 10 years running if it we could win a Europa, FA cup and League cup in that spell

posted 3 days, 21 hours ago

Spurs were the third highest spenders in the world last season.

Imo, Spurs have two issues when signing players.

One is that they don’t pay the same wages as Liverpool, Arsenal and City.

The second, and probably less important, is that they are down the list of attractive clubs a bit.

However, their revenues are increasing year on year, they just need to uncover a couple of gems somehow.

posted 3 days, 21 hours ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 27 minutes ago
Spurs were the third highest spenders in the world last season.

Imo, Spurs have two issues when signing players.

One is that they don’t pay the same wages as Liverpool, Arsenal and City.

The second, and probably less important, is that they are down the list of attractive clubs a bit.

However, their revenues are increasing year on year, they just need to uncover a couple of gems somehow.
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There is a culture of not winning at the club that also needs eradicating.

A culture where it’s okay to not win a trophy as long as you finish 4th or possibly even 5th now.

Poch tried to get Levy to see the light by getting him on the pitch with the players before big games - get that big of succeeding into him - didn’t work. Jose and Conte just sounded off about the culture - quite correctly imo, but it was always going to get them sacked. Nuno was just schitt to be fair. Ange rather bizarrely chose to blame the fans.

Meanwhile the club removed senior citizens discount and expect fans to pay £30 to go and watch us at home to Qarabag on a Thursday night

A fish rots from the head and so do Spurs

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted 3 days, 20 hours ago

we spend far too much on players from clubs smaller than us

when you compare that to the amount of players Arsenal for example were able to get from teams around them like City and Chelsea

posted 3 days, 20 hours ago

comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 49 minutes ago
we spend far too much on players from clubs smaller than us

when you compare that to the amount of players Arsenal for example were able to get from teams around them like City and Chelsea
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Arsenal don’t have Levy faaacking off all those clubs. We categorically do not do business with Chelsea, West Ham and Arsenal. Fergie used to moan like hell about Levy - who was the last player between Spurs and United, the loan of Reggie aside. City - they don’t want to come to us. Liverpool - they don’t want to come to us.

Then the elephant in the room is wages - we’re miles behind and I mean miles, those clubs.

Danny Rose was on a podcast the other day - he said the English Spurs players bar Kane used to get ridiculed at the England camp due to the wages they were on compared to the other teams.

He also said that our win bonuses had a clause that said we had to win by at least 2 goals - how’s that a serious football club

comment by T-BAD (U11806)

posted 3 days, 12 hours ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 9 hours, 12 minutes ago
Spurs were the third highest spenders in the world last season.

Imo, Spurs have two issues when signing players.

One is that they don’t pay the same wages as Liverpool, Arsenal and City.

The second, and probably less important, is that they are down the list of attractive clubs a bit.

However, their revenues are increasing year on year, they just need to uncover a couple of gems somehow.
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Other clubs are doing it though, there'll always be players around on an upward trajectory that will see Spurs as a step in the right direction, they just need to identify more of these players so they have leverage in the market and make sure they have some character too.

The teams around them like Brighton, Villa, Newcastle who are coming from a lower position than Spurs but equally trying to break into the top 4 seem to be a lot smarter and cohesive with their squad building.

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