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Trump headed to the White House?

I really hope I’m wrong on this but the polls are showing he’s in the lead and the momentum Kamala has seems to be waning. The bookies had her as favourite and now she’s gone from 1.79 to 2.20. I think shes a good candidate but probably not dynamic enough to convince enough people to get out and vote against a 45% hardcore MAGA base that will vote for Trump no matter how gross he is. She’ll easily win the popular vote but the electoral college is what may well bring her down.

Who is to blame? For me the mainstream media - and I include the likes of CNN, MSNBC and ABC all of whom are scaed to show Trump for the dementia-riddled mess that he is whilst doing that for Biden.

What will happen next? The plan seems to be once Trump is in power Vance will invoke the 25th amendment and force Trump out due to ill health then pardon him for his crimes allowing him to go play golf and a Vance/Thiel cabal will push forward with project 2025. Scary stuff for women and minorities in the US.

posted 12 hours, 32 minutes ago

comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 39 minutes ago
My biggest gripe with this theory though is that people never seem to take into account the sheer scale of people that would need to be in on it. Do you know how many people are involved in the production of a drug in one way or another, including the researchers and scientists themselves who have absolutely no interest in hiding their accomplishments? All of them just keep silent about it? Not a chance.
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This is the case with most crack pot conspiracy theories. People simply fail to, or ignore, that sheer impracticalities of what they’re proposing.

I think the psychological studies into conspiracy theorists conclude that many that think this way assume, incorrectly, that the people involved have far more control over the world than they do, and it’s more comforting to assume this than to acknowledge the lack of control and chaos that exists in the world.
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I tried to do the math on the COVID conspiracists who were claiming that no ICU and respiratory wards were overflowing/there weren’t ventilator or oxygen shortages/etc. once.

I forget the exact outcome now, but there’d have to have been (very literally) millions of people around the world conspiring to uphold that particular myth

But they still believed it to be true.

posted 12 hours, 7 minutes ago

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 39 minutes ago
My biggest gripe with this theory though is that people never seem to take into account the sheer scale of people that would need to be in on it. Do you know how many people are involved in the production of a drug in one way or another, including the researchers and scientists themselves who have absolutely no interest in hiding their accomplishments? All of them just keep silent about it? Not a chance.
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This is the case with most crack pot conspiracy theories. People simply fail to, or ignore, that sheer impracticalities of what they’re proposing.

I think the psychological studies into conspiracy theorists conclude that many that think this way assume, incorrectly, that the people involved have far more control over the world than they do, and it’s more comforting to assume this than to acknowledge the lack of control and chaos that exists in the world.
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I tried to do the math on the COVID conspiracists who were claiming that no ICU and respiratory wards were overflowing/there weren’t ventilator or oxygen shortages/etc. once.

I forget the exact outcome now, but there’d have to have been (very literally) millions of people around the world conspiring to uphold that particular myth

But they still believed it to be true.
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They’re mental. It’d take millions upon millions of people to all be in collusion across the globe. You only have to go on facking Twitter to see that you can’t get people to agree on anything, let alone something on this scale.

Also, please do not EVER say ‘math’ to me again. Maths or mathematics are the only acceptable words to use.

posted 12 hours, 5 minutes ago

comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 39 minutes ago
My biggest gripe with this theory though is that people never seem to take into account the sheer scale of people that would need to be in on it. Do you know how many people are involved in the production of a drug in one way or another, including the researchers and scientists themselves who have absolutely no interest in hiding their accomplishments? All of them just keep silent about it? Not a chance.
———
This is the case with most crack pot conspiracy theories. People simply fail to, or ignore, that sheer impracticalities of what they’re proposing.

I think the psychological studies into conspiracy theorists conclude that many that think this way assume, incorrectly, that the people involved have far more control over the world than they do, and it’s more comforting to assume this than to acknowledge the lack of control and chaos that exists in the world.
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I tried to do the math on the COVID conspiracists who were claiming that no ICU and respiratory wards were overflowing/there weren’t ventilator or oxygen shortages/etc. once.

I forget the exact outcome now, but there’d have to have been (very literally) millions of people around the world conspiring to uphold that particular myth

But they still believed it to be true.
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They’re mental. It’d take millions upon millions of people to all be in collusion across the globe. You only have to go on facking Twitter to see that you can’t get people to agree on anything, let alone something on this scale.

Also, please do not EVER say ‘math’ to me again. Maths or mathematics are the only acceptable words to use.
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Efficiency shapes the evolution of human communication, Daz.

May I call you Daz, Daz?

posted 11 hours, 48 minutes ago

If you want to indulge America’s cultural imperialism by saying it, then fine. But I will have no part of it.

posted 11 hours, 17 minutes ago

comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 29 minutes ago
If you want to indulge America’s cultural imperialism by saying it, then fine. But I will have no part of it.
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K

posted 11 hours, 16 minutes ago

Ok Dath

posted 11 hours, 11 minutes ago

posted 9 hours, 25 minutes ago

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 4 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 51 minutes ago
Agreed. Of course I'm not saying it's the most plausible but we live in a world of acute capitalism. They create wars and kill people like ants just to sell arms and control wealth and resources. Wouldn't put it past pharma to do something similar tbh.
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I dont disagree with that. I have little doubt about the indifference that some decision-makers within pharma show towards human life when it comes to making profit. The history of pharma is littered with examples of some downright sinister stuff, and the story ioag just raised about Novo Nordisk is unfortunately the type of thing that's all too common and very little can be done about.

But I draw the line at the 'cure suppression' stuff. Not because I don't think they'd stoop that low, but just on a practical level I don't see how it is feasible. I think people who push that claim (not saying you are) often think of "pharma" as one big conglomerate, rather than consider the dynamic of thousands of competing companies which imo makes it almost impossible.
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Fair points but some issues are a bit more complex IMO. Big conglomerate or not, legal rights and the use of patents is where the game is at. Once something is patented then everyone else in the world is excluded and they have a monopoly. They don't always share all the info between them, each does their own thing to some extent and they don't need to suppress anything all together at the same time.

What, in your opinion, would one of them do if they found a cure for diabetes today, knowing it would possibly be their demise as well as that of competing companies? I have little faith that it would be released just like that. Think of the repercussions. They'd need 10-15 years to prepare for that.

They wouldn't need to be talking to other companies to suppress anything IMO. They could suppress it and in fact spend millions on hawk-eyed medical lawyers to ensure nobody even tries to encroach on their patent. By looking after themselves in that regard they look after their competition as well and the competition need not worry because if they go out of business due to some new cure or medicine then so does most of everyone else.

The big pharma companies are all very similar and have similar competing products on pharmacy shelves that deal with the same diseases or symptoms. One company wouldn't need to talk to another to suppress anything. What hurts one of them hurts all of them. It's just common sense for their business.

posted 9 hours, 13 minutes ago

I see DNA gene editing is now possible so pharma better start getting ready to go out of business for the most part.

posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago

comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 9 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 39 minutes ago
My biggest gripe with this theory though is that people never seem to take into account the sheer scale of people that would need to be in on it. Do you know how many people are involved in the production of a drug in one way or another, including the researchers and scientists themselves who have absolutely no interest in hiding their accomplishments? All of them just keep silent about it? Not a chance.
———
This is the case with most crack pot conspiracy theories. People simply fail to, or ignore, that sheer impracticalities of what they’re proposing.

I think the psychological studies into conspiracy theorists conclude that many that think this way assume, incorrectly, that the people involved have far more control over the world than they do, and it’s more comforting to assume this than to acknowledge the lack of control and chaos that exists in the world.
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I tried to do the math on the COVID conspiracists who were claiming that no ICU and respiratory wards were overflowing/there weren’t ventilator or oxygen shortages/etc. once.

I forget the exact outcome now, but there’d have to have been (very literally) millions of people around the world conspiring to uphold that particular myth

But they still believed it to be true.
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They’re mental. It’d take millions upon millions of people to all be in collusion across the globe. You only have to go on facking Twitter to see that you can’t get people to agree on anything, let alone something on this scale.

Also, please do not EVER say ‘math’ to me again. Maths or mathematics are the only acceptable words to use.
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That sums it up....

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