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Stoke City 2 - 1 Derby County

STOKE CITY v DERBY COUNTY Championship #13

Saturday 2nd November 2024, 1230, Bet365 Stadium, Stoke

After the varsity match last week, we now travel to another level in the Potteries - the jewel of Staffordshire.

A lack lustre draw against Hull where neither side deserved to win or lose, we now have a chance to make our mark against a side just above the relegation places but always a tough nut to crack

I would be nice to get a first away win on Saturday - I think we are ticking along quite nicely and mid-table does seem to be our default position. Resilence and fight are our by-words.

As long as we don't do a Portsmouth against Stoke - 6 goals - just shows that results on this league can go any way.

I appoint Ang to do GGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOO etc duty as I will be Twickenham for the All Blacks πŸ‰πŸ‰πŸ‰

Team: ZetterstrΓΆm (GK), Ward, Nelson, Cashin, Forsyth, Adams, Osborn, Harness, Jackson, Mendez-Laing (C), Yates.

Subs: Vickers (GK), Bradley, Phillips, Elder, Thompson, Goudmijn, Blackett-Taylor, Collins, Brown.

comment by Scouse (U9675)

posted 1 month ago

Yep, needs to give opposition centre-half's something to think about for a change.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

Tbh that lone striker role is incredibly difficult and imo Collo is the best we have for that role. I rate Yates but in that role he's just getting frustrated. He'd be much better with Collo or Brown along side him.
I appreciate its the way we set up to make us difficult to play against - but there's a reason we don't score much from open play atm. Granted midfield is part of that but we don't actually put opposition defences under much pressure do we.
Cheers. Terry in Spain πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Έ

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

I very much agree

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

I think you've nailed it Terry. That is why I think VC's criticism of Yates is unfair although it's all opinion of course. Maybe playing Collo alone up front could work but I'm not convinced he could manage it in this League. Two up front would presumably mean three at the back with WBs which in turn would omit CBT and NML who are potentially our most potent threats going forward.

PW may well go with a back three at Coventry but would such a system find favour with fans for home games? OK it worked towards the end of last season but that was a different ball-game.

Playing Yates on his own has not worked (except against Brizzle) and it seems to be a pointless exercise now (literally.) It's a hell of a problem and I think we could struggle until Ozoh gets back (although I would not want to put loads of pressure on one so young.)

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

Collins is a willing enough worker but it is surely too much to expect much from him at this level and at his age if operating as a sole striker. Where Yates HAS done well has been when he is close to other players and can link up with them. He looks lost on his own.

Until Brown develops into Didier Drogba #2 any centre forward will be living off scraps. Personally I think a back three best suits the players currently available. When Ozoh returns a 4-2-4 might be viable. Or we effectively abandon wingers and play a narrow midfield 4, say Kenzo, Adams, Osborn and Tommo.

Regardless of formation, individuals need to take better care of the ball. I didn't really like Warne's comments about the main problem being that we were not passing it quickly enough in midfield. If they all do the first-time pass business we will give it away even more. We need better control in my opinion. For me, our strikers are better suited to through balls than crosses. At present we are back to getting it wide and whipping it in. I would prefer holding it better in midfield and try to get the likes of Kenzo to pick out a striker making a run.

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

Very much agree, Vidal.
If anyone thinks the comments on here are critical, try listening to tonights moan-in with Malcolm C & Ed Dawes

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 (U17428)
posted 46 minutes ago
Very much agree, Vidal.
If anyone thinks the comments on here are critical, try listening to tonights moan-in with Malcolm C & Ed Dawes
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I think comments on here have been remarkably calm...that said most people on the moan in are just wrist slashers who have no concept of managing or playing...

comment by Scouse (U9675)

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

...... no concept of managing or playing...
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That was us on Saturday. πŸ€”

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by Terry Hennessey (U22420)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 (U17428)
posted 46 minutes ago
Very much agree, Vidal.
If anyone thinks the comments on here are critical, try listening to tonights moan-in with Malcolm C & Ed Dawes
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I think comments on here have been remarkably calm...that said most people on the moan in are just wrist slashers who have no concept of managing or playing...
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Is that including Malcolm Christie ? πŸ€”

posted 4 weeks, 1 day ago

comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 (U17428)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Terry Hennessey (U22420)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 (U17428)
posted 46 minutes ago
Very much agree, Vidal.
If anyone thinks the comments on here are critical, try listening to tonights moan-in with Malcolm C & Ed Dawes
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I think comments on here have been remarkably calm...that said most people on the moan in are just wrist slashers who have no concept of managing or playing...
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Is that including Malcolm Christie ? πŸ€”
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Ed Dawes, maybe...πŸ˜‚

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