No one can deny this

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 43 minutes ago
What a ridiculous article.

First of all, it's way to early to call on Slot because what you often find when a new manager comes in is a change in some areas but a hangover in others. For instance, they've definitely tightened up but a lot of what you see going forward could easily be muscle memory from Klopp's influence. That could easily dry up as the years go by. It's for the same reason that when Roy Hodgson came back to save Palace, he made them more solid but a lot of the patterns of play that gave him such a good start were foundations built by Vieira. The following season it went south as they truly morphed back into a defensive Roy team.

Then there's the players themselves. Look what he's inherited. You can't compare that Liverpool squad with the one Ange got. You just watch if Liverpool lose Salah and Trent. Things won't look quite as rosey.

The final nail in the coffin of your argument is that we made a mistake not appointing ETH on the basis that he won two trophies there. Come on. Have you not watched them play? They've regressed massively so if we bypassed him, as others have alluded to, then Levy deserves credit for it. I can't stand it when people point to trophies as a barometer for progress. Shiiiiit teams can win domestic trophies. They just can. The truest test is the league. It always has been and we've seen more from Ange than we've ever seen from ETH at United.

We also don't know how Amorim will do. In terms of CV's I wouldn't say his achievements are any greater than Ange's. So on what grounds are you even framing his name as someone we missed the boat with?

I'm no Levy apologist as everyone knows. I think Dev is missing the point on the financial front. No one is saying we don't spend a decent amount on transfer fees but what's concerning is our steep and very deliberate shift from paying the kind of wages you'd expect of a club with our revenue streams to a very conservative wages to turnover ratio. To put it into context, our wages to turnover ratio is lower than Brighton. It's a deliberate ploy to make the club more palatable to potential investors. Financial gain for the owners, not so great long term for the football side. It's for this reason I don't think we'll be keeping our top players like we have in the past. Levy will want to commit to a specific figure for wages and he'd rather sell a player than give a huge new contract. That's where I take issue with him, but choice of manager isn't a stick to beat him with.
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Good points Fridge, although i disagree on wages.

Part of our healthy wage ratio is a legacy of increasing our revenues by about 40% in a few years. Just because matchday went from £45m to £125m doesnt mean that wages jump with it. Wages are linked to contracts and as new players come in and older contracts end or are sold, there will be an upward shift in wages.

2 things I think are relevant to wages - Firstly, whether we pay existing players good wages or massive wages makes no difference to their quality. VDV is reportedly on £50k a week. Martinez at Utd is on £120k, Maguire £190k, Mazraoui £135K.

While VDV deserves a huge pay rise, i see little harm in controlling wages where it doesnt cause a problem with players. If Real or Barca came in for VDV, he would not want to go because of wages, he'd want to go because its Real & Barca. Much the same can be said for a lot of our other stars, and if we want to keep the likes of Romero, Udogie, Radu, Porro etc will get rises and our ratio of wage to revenue will shift.

The other thing is that wages are a substantial cost to the club and they can be difficult to control, because if the likes of NDombele fail, then its £10m a year that you cannot shift. So great care has to be taken.

Spurs have a pretty high player amortisation cost, which indicates they are spending a lot on trasnfers.

Currently we are a club that breaks even or makes a small profit. So if we are to up our wages significantly, then something else has to give.

The choice then becomes between spending big sums & wages on player A or being able to afford player B & C instead.

One of our problems in recent times is that the work needed to the squad has been so much that if we have had to mix big spending with value spending to get the numbers in.

Arsenal are effectively in the next phase of growth, where they have a settled core and can add 1 or 2 key players to improve it. Their main deals are typically for a finished product who will demand big wages.

We will get there. If you consider next summer and what we need, then its far more of a selective process across a couple key positions, with 1 or 2 back up positions.

comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
Slots a good manager, Amorim is different gravy to Ange the one i wanted to target if Ange went.

We are where we are gotta get behind Big Ange. Impressive at the weekend and really liked the fact he spoke about Ugo Ehiogu. The underlying stats are so good but stats mean nothing unless we are picking up points.
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Changing your tune Son, it was Ange out at all costs a few weeks back, just like Sandy

You guys are worrying about Spurs management.
You should be worrying about who is going to manage the world now!
Donald J Trump!

comment by Dave&Danny dynamic (U4428)
posted 21 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
Slots a good manager, Amorim is different gravy to Ange the one i wanted to target if Ange went.

We are where we are gotta get behind Big Ange. Impressive at the weekend and really liked the fact he spoke about Ugo Ehiogu. The underlying stats are so good but stats mean nothing unless we are picking up points.
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Changing your tune Son, it was Ange out at all costs a few weeks back, just like Sandy
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Haha no just trying to be more positive mate.

I do not believe Big Ange is the one to take us forward. However i will not keep bashing him when he does good things i have always called out his good points too.

ETH would have looked one of the best managers in the world if we didn’t have worse than non-league attackers. I honestly would have Welbeck, Diouf, Owen and Obertan upfront than the lot we have.

Honestly Garnacho has regressed so much, he is like one of the worst attackers in PL history along with Antony and Rashford. I am interested in seeing if Amorim can take Man Utd officially worst ever attack in Man Utd history to the level of at least non-league level attack. If we can get a non-league attack we will score lots of goals. Our current strikeforce wouldn’t get into a non-league side.

Honestly if I was in charge of Man Utd, Antony, Garnacho, Rashford and Zirkzee would all be gone. Hojlund is the only one that has potential.

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/big_chance_missed
We missed nearly every big chance we created since 2022 which is crazy.😂

I think under ten hag we missed about 30 open goals and 150 one on ones.

The crazy thing is Darwin Nunez at his worst finishing level is a lot better than Man Utd under ten hag attack in his whole time.😂 If we could finish like Nunez we would have had a positive goal difference.😂

wtf has united got to do with this article Hafi you rettarrd

Fack off you boring pricckk

I swear you are rainmans twin brother but he got the special bits…you are just the shat left over

Just saying ten hag was operating at world class level, he had the worst ever attack in history as his options.

It just took garnacho around 2 minutes to put the ball out of play for a simple 2 yard pass. He hit it 30mph 10 yards ahead of player lol.