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Do we continue to trust the process?

He's been managing Arsenal for five years, and we have two FA Cups and two Community Shields to show for it. We came close to the league twice but are floundering more than a quarter of the way into the season and, I'm sad to say, I don't see us gaining the ground we need to. So my question is - do you still trust Mikel Arteta?

I worried that far from being a step closer, last season would be our peak and we would struggle, and so far that has looked like being accurate. Once again Arteta went through the transfer window without bringing in a top class striker, and we need someone who can score us 25+ goals a season and put us two or three goals up in a game. Now, when we seem to persistently rely on holding out to win games where we have a narrow lead, we've shown we have difficulty doing that. We also seem to have no other way of playing, and if we can't adapt to overcome our problems, we have no way of making the best of a bad situation. We can point to the loss of Ødegaard, but one player should not affect the performance of a whole team. And we can whine about refereeing decisions, but if we take the risk of fine margins deciding our fate, we'll come off worst sometimes.

I'm starting to think Arteta has done all he can with us, which is a shame because for two seasons running I was getting really excited about how we might do. Now we're well off the pace, I don't really see where the improvement is coming from, and Edu is gone, so Arteta's team is shrinking around him. I'm not saying he needs to go - yet. But after five years, I think we're going to get proof soon that the process has gone as far as it can.

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

comment by 2-4-5 Trioxin (U22016)
posted 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Arteta has spent a fortune and won one trophy.

Keep him please.
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It's going to be hilarious when you win Feck and City win it
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Enjoy, I have no expectation to win the league and certainly did not have at the beginning of the season.

We've had an excellent start though however I expect city to come good although there appear to be some cracks there.

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

It is fair to question if Arteta and the squad has reached its peak - but there are many more questions that also have to be asked.
Let's see who we get to replace Edu, it could give an indication as to our ceiling as a club in the current climate. I am not expecting much in January, but the summer will be very important to see if we can step back up or we are falling further towards the chasing pack.
The City case could change English football massively, whatever way it goes, stability could be key.

I have a few misgivings about Arteta and his time as our boss, but there is more to be positive about than negative.

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

It's mainly rival fans that say silly things like 'if he doesn't win the PL or CL,he has to go'..us Arsenal fans all know how far we've come, since he's taking over and no one has a divine right to win anything, regardless of money spent.
As above, MY experience with Arteta in charge has been more positive than negative.

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

I’m one of Arteta’s biggest critic’s but it would be silly to get rid of him (unless the rest of the season is a complete disaster, ie mid table finish, no domestic cups, out in last 16 of CL). We have made progress on every season he has been here, setbacks have to come eventually. Still think we can turn things around anyway with a decent set of fixtures coming up over the next 3 months

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

Too much of an overreaction imo exacerbated by wannabe experts with a mic exaggerating things for clicks. It'd be silly to remove Arteta.

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

We’ve had pretty horrendous fixtures, plus bad luck with injury and despite that we’ve picked an acceptable amount of points given the games we’ve had and the relatively on paper easier run our rivals have had. Hopefully it won’t look too bad once the league is born out. Clearly we could have done better and being 9 points behind is a big margin to catch up, but the start probably hasn’t been as disastrous as it seems.

I feel like the team this season still hasn’t had a chance to build up any sort of momentum or form due to the line ups having to change a lot. So I’d give it a bit more time to see if it starts to jell before deciding if we’ve made a step backwards. But There’s definitely valid criticism you could make about how we handled the transfer market, and how Arteta has managed not having players fit, I wouldn’t say it’s panic stations yet though

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
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comment by Pessimistic (U22980)
posted 4 hours, 38 minutes ago
Just 1 FA Cup
Community Shields are friendlies
Also £800 million spent
Win a major trophy this season or go
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All this nonsense about 800 Million spend.

That was needed to get us back in the CL and then challenging for the PL.

Before he got here we were a shambles, no clue on how to defend, no clue how to play in big games away and at home and generally no identity.

He's managed to get us back to a very high level. The only thing he's been missing is that tiny bit of luck in certain games.

If he had we could have won 2 PL trophies but sadly City are a juggernaut. They are the depth and quality when players are missing.
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Ten Haag won more than he did

posted 1 week, 3 days ago

you really want to be in Manchester Utd position?

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

From where we were before Arteta to where he got us last season and the season before is an improvement very few managers have achieved lately.

I was one of his biggest critics early on and there may well be a time for him to go but it's way too early to say the project has failed. It's been a massive success with only the best league side in the world thwarting our last two efforts.

League Cups and FA Cups are one thing but as United (and several others) prove they often mean feck all in the grand scheme of squad improvement.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

There is no alternative to Arteta. We would be silly to get rid of him. Even if we dont win anything this season.

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