Wow!
ENIC, who are owned by the family trust of billionaire Joe Lewis and chairman Levy himself, are the Premier League’s oldest ownership group. They completed the first part of their takeover of Tottenham from Sir Alan Sugar in 2001.
However, despite the length of time that ENIC have owned Spurs, as per The Athletic (18 November), only Southampton, Nottingham Forest, Brentford and Ipswich Town’s owners have invested less into their clubs.
ENIC have invested £194million of their own money into Tottenham. That includes a purchase price of £94milllion, and owner funding worth £100million.
That leaves the club 16th out of all 20 Premier League sides in terms of ownership funding.
What is more, is that the four clubs below them were taken over by their current owners far later than ENIC completed their takeover of Spurs.
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Running the club "organically" or however you want to spin it, but at the end of the day this proves the "ambition" of the owners of the club.
They have properly made us an average team forever now.
Chelsea and Arsenal unquestionably have a bigger draw and global presence now since PL inception/internet etc.
Without sounding bitter, but we had all the ingredients to cement ourselves as the top London club forever but we got owners like ENIC.
How can some people still justify ENIC?
posted on 21/11/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 23 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
4th, 3rd, 2nd, 4th. League Cup Final, European Cup Final. All dealing with the club's financial constraints due to the stadium, 2 seasons without a home. If that's not success I don't know what is.
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Erm actual trophies = success. What world are you in?
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I live in a world where people are rational enough to understand that success in football is measured by a number of factors, i.e average league position prior to taking a job, wage bill, transfer spend and not just a feckin tin pot. Are you telling me that if Fabian Hürzeler steers Brighton to 2nd place and a final in both domestic cup competitions that wouldn't constitute success? I actually question your sanity if you don't. Honestly.
Success to me is measured by the mean average of a club prior to a manager's arrival. If the new manager's achievements sit a fair distance above that marker, he's successful. Your understanding of success means on handful of clubs in world football can describe themselves as successful.
Everyone is different though. I heard someone ages ago saying that the run to the League Cup Final in 1999 and eventually winning it was better than our run to the European Cup Final in 2019. I find that astonishing. An unlucky loss in the final owed to a decision in the first two minutes that ultimately changed the game will not diminish the absolute wonder of that run to get there. That City game away and then the comeback against Ajax for me will live longer in the memory than Nielsen's goal in that final against Leicester. I had to look up the scorer. That says everything. Success doesn't always mean trophies. Success is about happy memories and that, for me, is what football is really all about. Only the younger fan, the post-Jose types measure success by trophies. It's a modern trope but frankly it's complete bolllllocks!
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Seriously what a load of tripe. Beating Chelsea in the 2008 league cup final, and seeing Spurs players running around with a trophy beats playing in a CL final, and not turning up and losing.
I switched the TV off when Liverpool went 2-0 up. When Spurs beat Chelsea in 2008 I was tuned in until the show had finished. Nothing beats winning.
posted on 21/11/24
I'm gonna picket your funeral with an I LOVE POCH placard.
Its what you would have wanted.
posted on 21/11/24
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 23 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
4th, 3rd, 2nd, 4th. League Cup Final, European Cup Final. All dealing with the club's financial constraints due to the stadium, 2 seasons without a home. If that's not success I don't know what is.
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Erm actual trophies = success. What world are you in?
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I live in a world where people are rational enough to understand that success in football is measured by a number of factors, i.e average league position prior to taking a job, wage bill, transfer spend and not just a feckin tin pot. Are you telling me that if Fabian Hürzeler steers Brighton to 2nd place and a final in both domestic cup competitions that wouldn't constitute success? I actually question your sanity if you don't. Honestly.
Success to me is measured by the mean average of a club prior to a manager's arrival. If the new manager's achievements sit a fair distance above that marker, he's successful. Your understanding of success means on handful of clubs in world football can describe themselves as successful.
Everyone is different though. I heard someone ages ago saying that the run to the League Cup Final in 1999 and eventually winning it was better than our run to the European Cup Final in 2019. I find that astonishing. An unlucky loss in the final owed to a decision in the first two minutes that ultimately changed the game will not diminish the absolute wonder of that run to get there. That City game away and then the comeback against Ajax for me will live longer in the memory than Nielsen's goal in that final against Leicester. I had to look up the scorer. That says everything. Success doesn't always mean trophies. Success is about happy memories and that, for me, is what football is really all about. Only the younger fan, the post-Jose types measure success by trophies. It's a modern trope but frankly it's complete bolllllocks!
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Seriously what a load of tripe. Beating Chelsea in the 2008 league cup final, and seeing Spurs players running around with a trophy beats playing in a CL final, and not turning up and losing.
I switched the TV off when Liverpool went 2-0 up. When Spurs beat Chelsea in 2008 I was tuned in until the show had finished. Nothing beats winning.
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The most successful manager at Spurs since Burkinshaw, its all relevant Sandy, can't hate him for that
posted on 21/11/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
I'm gonna picket your funeral with an I LOVE POCH placard.
Its what you would have wanted.
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I may outlive you.
posted on 22/11/24
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 5 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
I'm gonna picket your funeral with an I LOVE POCH placard.
Its what you would have wanted.
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I may outlive you.
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Yeah, you should always go to other people's funerals, otherwise......................................
they won't come to yours!
posted on 22/11/24
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 17 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 23 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 2 minutes ago
4th, 3rd, 2nd, 4th. League Cup Final, European Cup Final. All dealing with the club's financial constraints due to the stadium, 2 seasons without a home. If that's not success I don't know what is.
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Erm actual trophies = success. What world are you in?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I live in a world where people are rational enough to understand that success in football is measured by a number of factors, i.e average league position prior to taking a job, wage bill, transfer spend and not just a feckin tin pot. Are you telling me that if Fabian Hürzeler steers Brighton to 2nd place and a final in both domestic cup competitions that wouldn't constitute success? I actually question your sanity if you don't. Honestly.
Success to me is measured by the mean average of a club prior to a manager's arrival. If the new manager's achievements sit a fair distance above that marker, he's successful. Your understanding of success means on handful of clubs in world football can describe themselves as successful.
Everyone is different though. I heard someone ages ago saying that the run to the League Cup Final in 1999 and eventually winning it was better than our run to the European Cup Final in 2019. I find that astonishing. An unlucky loss in the final owed to a decision in the first two minutes that ultimately changed the game will not diminish the absolute wonder of that run to get there. That City game away and then the comeback against Ajax for me will live longer in the memory than Nielsen's goal in that final against Leicester. I had to look up the scorer. That says everything. Success doesn't always mean trophies. Success is about happy memories and that, for me, is what football is really all about. Only the younger fan, the post-Jose types measure success by trophies. It's a modern trope but frankly it's complete bolllllocks!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Seriously what a load of tripe. Beating Chelsea in the 2008 league cup final, and seeing Spurs players running around with a trophy beats playing in a CL final, and not turning up and losing.
I switched the TV off when Liverpool went 2-0 up. When Spurs beat Chelsea in 2008 I was tuned in until the show had finished. Nothing beats winning.
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Winning matters when you are in competitions like that and in the later stages but success isn't only measured by winning. You can definitely still have success without winning trophies. Nobody for instance would say Emery hasn't been a success at Villa for getting them in the top 4 for the first time in decades from when he took over. Poch was also successful in the way he got us consecutive top 4 finishes and a CL final. He achieved more than Ramos did, even though Ramos won a cup final. It's why he lasted as long as he did and Ramos only lasted a season.
If Ange goes on to win a league cup but we finish mid-table and he gets sacked, I'd say the same there. Ange will have done well but it won't match what Poch achieved overall. He'd need to do more than that.
posted on 22/11/24
Emery and Poch's tenures are/were fun times.
Let's not devalue the word Success hey.
posted on 22/11/24
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Emery and Poch's tenures are/were fun times.
Let's not devalue the word Success hey.
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Get in the bin! You tell us all not to devalue success completely oblivious to your penchant for overplaying the word failure.
You speak utter nonsense.
posted on 22/11/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
Emery and Poch's tenures are/were fun times.
Let's not devalue the word Success hey.
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Get in the bin! You tell us all not to devalue success completely oblivious to your penchant for overplaying the word failure.
You speak utter nonsense.
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Ok, carry on basking in the successfull Poch era 😂😂😂 #ZeroTrophies.
posted on 23/11/24
Some fans expect us to spend £300 million every summery