Lets just say for example that our club was taken over by billionaire owners from abroad and we went about things the same way as lets say, Chelsea and City!.
How would you react as a fan? do you think there will be the majority of us gloating like City fans?.. How would you feel if the heart of our club had been ripped out and we ended up buying £50 million pound players paying £200k a week?
Me - I wouldn't be happy, I like the way we handle business, yes I won't lie.. It would be nice to be able to afford the best players in the world!
The way I see it we are the 4th/5th best team in the league, but with the cash injection would could yet again be the best! but at what cost?
Agree or disagree at your peril
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Would you act the same way!
posted on 7/11/11
Dishonest market flotations.
Starting football "trends" that destroyed other clubs.
Ignorant of any of the basics of running a large business.
I wonder how anyone outside of Spurs 606 can overcome their disgust and write on any article that has our teams' name at the top ...
posted on 7/11/11
7_The_Best (U5768)
Yes, very good, you've mastered sarcasm
I'm perfectly well aware of how much money has been spent and, indeed, wasted on players such as the aforementioned Adebayor. And indeed on a number of players that Hughes bought. But hasn't every club purchased a bad player now and again? Yes, we picked up a few in a short space of time, but then that was an inevitability of letting a manager buy a massive quantity of players and then sack him. They got that hopelessly wrong and he should've gone when he finished lower than his predecessor with what should've been a stronger team. And yes, we've paid over the odds at times for players.
See, I'm willing to look at my club and say we've made mistakes. In fact, it's a bit hard not to; since the last time we had any success, it's been a catalogue of disasters. But that's the club I love, warts and all, and I'm under no illusions that we've got a golden opportunity and that we're as likely to balls this up as every other time. But hey, at least it's not boring, right?
But what IS boring is all you maris pipers and goonards and raggles banging on and on and on and on about the money. Football has become a business and clubs need money to compete. Thing is, you've all become so used to having it while we've been scratching down the back of the sofa, you think you've got some God given right to it all. Well, you haven't. And it seems that now you're all starting to realise that, you can't take it.
posted on 7/11/11
TBH, all the <Citeh> muppets have to do is just to accept that their Sugga Daddy has distorted the WAGE market for PL players.
The TRANSFER market IMHO is unchanged ( <Citeh> have been paying market rates for nearly all of their top players) .
And the football is very nice indeed to watch.
"Thing is, you've all become so used to having it while we've been scratching down the back of the sofa, you think you've got some God given right to it all."
How you acquire it, and how one pontificates in front of those who have to do so by more industrious / less fortunate means than keep hoping the sofa will deliver, appears to be the main jist of 7s' comments.
posted on 7/11/11
Leopold
pay them no heed. They are London's third biggest club and it really grates to see a club like City overtake them regardless of how we have done it. You and I know how awful it has been watching us rub shoulders with Macclesfield, Lincoln and York, and we will enjoy the good times all the more because of this.
Whatever the jealous spurs retort is irrelevant.
The blue moon is rising and they hate it
posted on 7/11/11
Years of practice have finally come together to make the one perfect sarcastic comment... I applaud myself
Anyway where was I....?
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But hasn't every club purchased a bad player now and again? Yes,
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Sure but when United did it it was either a cheap punt anyway (and usually made money or close to broke even on them) or because we had paid a big fee for the guy we had to make it work or get our moneys worth. City can simply use them for a season and if it doesn't work out discard them for barely close to what they paid...
Or send them out on loan for a fraction of their wages but refuse them to goto any decent level club, almost literally buying players to stop them going into your rivals clubs. Then leaving for free like Bellamy, can't imagine you'll get barely anything for Santa Cruz and considering his huge wages cannot see Adebayor fetching a huge amount either...
United could not afford mistake like that, it would have cost us years of progress, set us back to nearer the bottom reaches of the CL places (maybe even worse) and we would not have been willing to lose so much money on players to simply stop them being in rivals teams...
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But what IS boring is all you maris pipers and goonards and raggles banging on and on and on and on about the money. Football has become a business and clubs need money to compete. Thing is, you've all become so used to having it while we've been scratching down the back of the sofa, you think you've got some God given right to it all. Well, you haven't. And it seems that now you're all starting to realise that, you can't take it.
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It is not United I am worried about... my worrys are purely selfless, Chelsea came along and blew United out the water in terms of money but that forced United to up their game and helped us improve in Europe and eventually we took back over from Chelsea...
It is the clubs on the edges of the CL or that where there or there abouts before the sugar daddys came along and now...
Clubs like Arsenal, Everton and more recently clubs like Tottenham and maybe even the likes of Newcastle and Stoke... Villa worth a mention
All these clubs would have (or would have had) a good shot at the CL without the 2 sugar daddy clubs in there (Chelsea and City) between Chelsea and City and with Fergie being a genius it has got to the point where every other team is left challenging for the CL spot as how are normal clubs living within their means meant to challenge clubs that can confront any challenge or setback by simply spending huge amounts of money again...
No finding of gems, no scouring the world for quality cheap players just buy every best player in the world that is available and can be convinced to sign on for huge wages..
It takes any management ability and building of a club out of the picture and just leaves it as buy buy buy... if that isn't enough repeat again, do that again and again until it works...
Great achievement...
Ohh and I must disagree on the transfer value comment.. Barry not far under 20 mill... Lescott over 20 mill Roque over 20 mill, Adebator too... Robinho over 30.. Kolarov about 16 wasn't it ?
posted on 7/11/11
ok... the ridiculously long posts have started... a sure sign the article is going round in circles and no-one will ever agree
posted on 7/11/11
Actually, I thought 7 was being sarcastic. I guess we all read what we want into people's comments...
"TBH, all the <Citeh> muppets have to do is just to accept that their Sugga Daddy has distorted the WAGE market for PL players."
Which never, ever happened in football at all before we were bought out. And there was me thinking Sylvain Distin joined Portsmouth for the football
posted on 7/11/11
I was being sarcastic about floatations being bad and selling players for good money to buy new ones being bad as well....
I could say some good things about City (I am not always nasty) but anything in this topic that sounded complimentary or approving of City was probably sarcasm as well...
Maybe I should put sarcasm in brackets in the future...
(none of the above is sarcasm!)
posted on 7/11/11
"City can simply use them for a season and if it doesn't work out discard them for barely close to what they paid"
We could, but when have we done that? As far as I can tell, we've bought two players who didn't work out - Boateng and Santa Cruz. We sold Boateng for pretty much what we paid and we still own Rocky. Adebayor worked out for a while, but he's still ours too. Robinho worked out very well, he was our top goal scorer in 08/09, but got sulky when he stopped being top dog. Bellers worked out very well too, but we didn't offer him another contract as he clashed with the manager.
"No finding of gems, no scouring the world for quality cheap players just buy every best player in the world that is available and can be convinced to sign on for huge wages.."
A very petulant comment. If this were true, we'd have Silva alongside Xavi and Iniesta instead of Milner and Barry. Also, Balotelli was dismissed by one of the best managers in the world and nobody had even heard of Stefan Savic.
"It takes any management ability and building of a club out of the picture and just leaves it as buy buy buy... if that isn't enough repeat again, do that again and again until it works..."
Which is why Hughes was sacked, so as not to be in that loop. Next.
"Ohh and I must disagree on the transfer value comment.. Barry not far under 20 mill... Lescott over 20 mill Roque over 20 mill, Adebator too... Robinho over 30.. Kolarov about 16 wasn't it ?"
Christiano Ronaldo sold for £80 million. Please don't even go there with transfer values.
posted on 7/11/11
"Maybe I should put sarcasm in brackets in the future..."
Maybe we all should. It would certainly save us a bit of time with silly debates