There are so many opinions flying as to why certain Indian players and consequently the BCCI is opposing the DRS so I thought I'll make it clear. Why am I qualified to say this? It's because I have been following Indian cricket longer and deeper than the many biased English columnists (there are some unbiased writers- not talking about them here).
First of all, the DRS was introduced to eradicate the blatant faults in the Decision making, viz:
1. Lbws given off inside edges
2. Lbws given off balls pitching outside leg-stump or impact outside off-stump
3. Catches given off impact on pad/body/thigh-guard etc.
4. Wickets given off no-balls
5. Edges gone unnoticed (like the most famous Symonds edge at the Sydney Test of 2008)
It was not at all meant to be used for marginal lbw decisions. However, over a period of time, the referral system was invoked most often only for that reason. As it is, lbws given by umpires are predictive- whether the ball would have hit the stumps or not based on his thought process .
The Hawkeye is no different- it too makes a prediction based on photographic evidence. There is no tool that can say conclusively as to what the ball would have done if it had been allowed to pass.
And there is no proof that the Hawkeye is better than any umpire because no one certainly knows what will be the final position of the ball, so they cannot compare an umpire's decision with that of Hawkeye.
So the Indian players oppose the use of Hawkeye since it is predictive and it merely complicates the situation further. Also, the 2.5 m rule etc merely adds to the chaos.
A player cannot measure the pitch of the ball before asking for a referral. So how are they supposed to take into account so many things before asking for a referral.
That's why such decisions are best left to the umpires.
Tendulkar and Dhoni have always said that Hotspot is an acceptable technology (for edges) and have always wanted to include it if UDRS must be in place.
There are so many problems with DRS that its not wise to add it to the official Test game.
Because once it is included permanently, the ICC would never look to perfect it.
Unless someone opposes it and makes the ICC perfect it, the imperfect and totally flawed rules will remain.
So it's not wrong on the BCCI's part to oppose it- since its their wish to oppose.
All national boards were given the option of accepting or refusing the use of DRS when it was first brought up. BCCI are merely using their veto powers and to castigate them for that is hypocritical.
Dhoni has already said that the ICC must concentrate on improving umpiring standards rather than trying to get in as much flawed technology as possible into the game.
The no-ball and wide zone are still managed by the umpire and in fact, in baseball- the run-outs are still managed by the umpire. Yet baseball still flourishes and cricket is always whimpering and whining about trivial matters.
SOLUTION:
Do not allow ruling of marginal lbws using DRS.
If an lbw is referred, only the pitch and impact must be checked (apart from edges etc). If the on-field umpire had detected that correctly when he made his decision, then that must not be questioned.
If he was wrong, then the 3rd umpire must rule based on the photo evidence and annul the on-field umpire automatically.
Hawkeye should not be used to predict the path of the ball.
Why the BCCI opposes DRS?
posted on 20/6/11
david Llyod had an excellent point.IF India dont want it. So be it.But England can use if if they want.. Seems India have no respect for the own team...
posted on 21/6/11
sportfan:
That is about as dumb as Lloyd can get.
When the technology itself is flawed, why should Indian batsmen agree to decisions made by that and be evicted?
Unless the ICC perfects it, it would be counterproductive to use the UDRS.
BCCI are right in opposing it.
posted on 22/6/11
Do you want to tell me why the bbci are not wishing to use the UDRS?
Its simple they are going against the icc and flexing their muscles because most of the money is in Indian cricket IE the IPL.. The icc are worried if Indian domestic cricket steals all the best players in the world in the future and that devalues international cricket..So the weaklings at the icc pander to the Indians..
There is sod all wrong with umpire reveral system. IT as improved correct descicions by an untold ammount.
India are becoming to big for their boots.. As soon as India start to go the world rankings..They will start to push more for the IPL. and cause more unrest.its time the icc TOLD India they are having the urds and everyone else is..Its time the icc grew some balls.
posted on 22/6/11
"go down in the rankings^ that should have said..
posted on 22/6/11
Typical rex - Know more than David Lloyd as well as being far superior to the rest of us - I wouldnt waste your breath sportfan ....... zzzzzz
posted on 22/6/11
sportfan:
It's clear you have a gripe against India simply because they're the ones that have power in the Cricket right now.
You're not looking at it from an objective point of view- what with connecting UDRS with IPL and a host of other issues.
Why don't you discuss the merits of the UDRS before criticizing the BCCI?
The BCCI isn't a perfect organization- it has its faults but all I'm saying is the BCCI is right to oppose the present version of the UDRS.
Imagine letting an unreliable robot for a babysitter or letting an unreliable robot run a ship?
Simply because the UDRS is technology does not mean its good.
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lydney:
As for you, first of all, merely because David Lloyd has been a Test cricketer, coach and commentator, it doesn't mean he knows everything in the world of cricket.
Everyone is human and they are prone to making stupid comments and like I said before- I didn't call David Lloyd completely dumb- I merely said that this specific comment was stupid and that I hoped that he wouldn't make anymore stupid comments.
Stop being such a baby and take harsh comments. Nobody here is going to mollycoddle you or sugarcoat his/her speech to make sure you don't get "offended".
posted on 22/6/11
Oh shock horror i have problem with Indians now..Always the case take offencen to deny whats happening.The BCCI are getting to big for their shoes..If England had issues with the referal system and were going to India in the next series..They would go along with it if the home team wished to use the system..So India should respect Englad as we wish to use them at home..OK now look at the merrits of the referal system.. They have improved the right descicions to around 98% ...Less mistakes the better.. thats all that matters...And yes i have Issues with the Indian board they are dictating to the ICC
posted on 22/6/11
sportfan:
Indeed you have problems with the Indians since you drag completely irrelevant matters into the issue- like the IPL and BCCI's bullying the ICC etc.
Why would the BCCI, more than any other nation's board, want to oppose the UDRS when India has suffered so often by umpires' bad decisions?
The most famous Sydney Test of 2008 which fast-tracked the arrival of the UDRS is India's horrid memory.
First of all, its not the BCCI taking the decision, but the Indian players who are urging the BCCI to maintain this stand.
They are also not completely against it either. They just do not agree to the presence of Hawkeye, which is merely another predictive tool like the Umpire who predicts the path of the ball.
There is NO PROOF that the Hawkeye is any more accurate at prediction than the umpire in the middle.
Also, without the presence of Hotspot and Snickometer, it's not possible to rule on many contentious decisions. That's why, until the ICC corrects those flaws, this system will not be agreed to be used by the BCCI.
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.If England had issues with the referal system and were going to India in the next series..They would go along with it if the home team wished to use the system
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When the referral system was introduced, every nation was allowed a veto- that is if both teams do not agree to the presence of UDRS, then it MUST NOT BE used in the series.
As long as the veto provision is available, one must not complain when it is used by a nation. ICC HAS NOT made it mandatory in all series- first understand that.
So where is the BCCI wrong to oppose?
The ICC said- "If you have a problem with the system, then please say NO"
Then you cannot fault the BCCI if it does say NO.
posted on 22/6/11
I bet Harbajhan wishes he could of referred that last decision - woeful by the umpire
posted on 22/6/11
lydney:
When the UDRS is perfect, every Indian player would want to use it.
As for your smug look, its pointless. Whatever the poor decisions India takes, unless the UDRS is perfected, they won't accept it.