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My view from the outside...

This might be a blessing for you guys. I don't think you were ever gonna win it this year and you can now concentrate on the PL (cliche). The signings you made were not the type to 'challenge' Barca. This has proved that and perhaps it will make you act. Where as if you had gone through and then made the quarters or semi's it would have disguised a lot of issues. Plus Ferguson always responds well when you get a jolt like this.

It's okay saying spend in January, but you have a huge squad and you are only allowed 25 players. So it'll be more about getting rid of players that aren't up to standard (Gibson?) and maybe getting in one or two who are.

It's not nice going out of the CL but it it might be for the greater good (cornish accent). Long term it could prove very beneficial....

posted on 8/12/11

I just realised Basel have nearly finished there league campaign and they play very few games. Benfica league is also very small amount of games.

Maybe they could be fresh all the time.

posted on 8/12/11

bixentelizarazu - he started like a train first few games, got injured, came back, drifts in and out of games. He's new to the club and the expectations placed on him, and no-one expected the new Ronaldo tbf.

Maybe expected more of a goal threat from him than we've seen as well, but I think will be a very good player for us.

posted on 8/12/11

PNM

Haj - Fresh or not, they are a far inferior Swiss team. I think it was more to do with individual errors/lack of concentration and perhaps team selection.

posted on 8/12/11

"far inferior"

cannot use statement when you were beaten by them.

posted on 8/12/11

You can. Bixent's right, if United had played to the level expected of a club of our stature we'd have beat them. Twice.

Just a bad do all round for United. No excuses.

posted on 8/12/11

Good call OP.

Young started off well for us, got an injury (playing for England, I think) and hasn't done much since then.

Same with Rooney.

posted on 8/12/11

Yes I can. They are far superior. Just like they were far superior to us when they beat us.

How many of their players would make your team? or even squad? Probably none, therefore they are far superior. (and that's not me wumming) if you read my article it's quite fair.

posted on 8/12/11

I've watched a bit of Young this season and what is clear is that the Villa fans I spoke to before you signed Young and we signed Downing was spot on.

Things going well - Young smashes it.
Things going badly - goes missing.

To be fair to Man Utd I don't think you've had or will have a huge amount of money to spend because you've done really well at reducing your debt. I certainly don't think you'll be making any big signing in January. Going out of the CL won't help this at all.

The flip side is that there is some value in teh squad that you can and have sold such as Brown, O'Shea and Gibson.

The signings of Carrick and Anderson look absolute stinkers though.

ManUtd have some dead wood and are in transition for me but how long will MrAF be around to sort it?

posted on 8/12/11

To be fair to Man Utd I don't think you've had or will have a huge amount of money to spend because you've done really well at reducing your debt. I certainly don't think you'll be making any big signing in January. Going out of the CL won't help this at all.

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January, probably not. But SAF will make some more signings in the summer.

There will be money. Don't buy into this no money business. It is bollox.

posted on 8/12/11

Interesting comments from the Villa fans (although Yorke was held in that sort of regard wasn't he?).

To be honest we've had it very good for a long time now, might be no bad thing for a bit of a reality check.

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