So Luis Suárez has been handed an 8 game penalty and a £40,000 fine after being found guilty of "racist" remarks towards Patrice Evra.
Now let me start off by saying I'm hugely disappointed in the player who I idolised as you can most probably tell by my username. Now if the FA are correct and he did insult Evra with racist remarks, I would like to state that as a Liverpool fan his ban and fine are completely justified: racism cannot be tolerated in any shape or form in the game. However I fully expect an appeal from our side in order to reduce his ban but not his conviction. He has therefore brought our club into disrepute and I am disgusted by all you Liverpool fans still backing the guy and claiming he is not racist. We all know that after several years of him living in Europe he must know "negro" is not an acceptable term to use even if it is in uruguayan.
In terms of footballing quality, the guy is a genius and will be missed. We need another striker in the window if his ban is not reduced however I would urge all Liverpool fans from still backing him and hope he makes a public apology and we move on.
An unbiased perspective
posted on 20/12/11
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 10 minutes ago
I'll be shocked if it is only Evras word I really will. If so I'd expect an appeal.
I can only presume that Suarez admitted in his own statement using whatever word it was and the panel felt it was used with racist connotations. A hard thing to prove.
My personal feeling was that he has said something in a racial manner in order to wind Evra up and it has backfired. That doesn't him racist though. Just stupid.
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Well this can be the only logical explanation as they can't have used Evra's word alone. However the club seem to think otherwise. This has me stuck in limbo on what to think and I think I'll keep my comments to myself until I see what the evidence is.
posted on 20/12/11
A few hypocritical posts on here tonight.
LFC and a large number of their fans are claiming the FA are incompetent at best & not to be trusted, but then you are happy to trust their judgement that Evra used unreliable and exaggerated testimony in the chelsea case, which one do you want to use?
Also that you cannot trust anything Evra says, then jump onto the fact he said he doesn't think Suarez is a racist.
Do you think there may be some selective choices going on, or blinkered vision?
posted on 20/12/11
Fair enough.
You got those quotes f
posted on 20/12/11
*for me yet?
posted on 20/12/11
Again? Surely you've got them memorised now, considering I've showed you them multiple times?
posted on 20/12/11
Yeh they are all memorised. Guess what? Not one of them has a quote from Evra claiming racial abuse! Or playing the race card as u like to put it.
posted on 20/12/11
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
Yeh they are all memorised. Guess what? Not one of them has a quote from Evra claiming racial abuse! Or playing the race card as u like to put it.
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Shall we both jump on the circle again? I posted a quote which shows him claiming racial abuse. You decided it didn't. As I said before, I can't force you into believing it. I have no more to say on the matter and have no enthusiam left to debate on it, after hearing today's news which has came as a great shock to me.
I'll wait for the evidence before giving my verdict.
posted on 20/12/11
He didn't claim he was racially abused by the Senegalese fans - he claimed he was abused. The insult about him being a monkey must be considered in the context of the person doing the insulting. Coming from Senegalese people where monkeys are indigenous and often kept as pets; do you think they were using it as a racial slur? Or where they suggesting that he is the pet of white men?
posted on 20/12/11
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 6 seconds ago
He didn't claim he was racially abused by the Senegalese fans - he claimed he was abused. The insult about him being a monkey must be considered in the context of the person doing the insulting. Coming from Senegalese people where monkeys are indigenous and often kept as pets; do you think they were using it as a racial slur? Or where they suggesting that he is the pet of white men?
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Why did he have to mention white man if he only meant he was a pet? We both know what it meant. As I said before, if you refuse to accept and understand that, I can't force it on you.
posted on 20/12/11
He was repeating what was said to him. The white bit wasn't his words. You need to consider the history of the slave trade in Senegal. Being under the control of white men suggests he is weak. Nothing racist in it. You've still provided nothing to support your statement that he has a history of playing the race card.