Excuses.

The fact is, City are losing the excuse that they were down to 10 men yesterday, the same excuse Man Utd use for losing 6 1 to City.

If you can't see the fundamental difference of losing 6-1 when you have 10 men for half the game, compared to losing 3-2 when you have 10 men for almost all the game then you are more of an idiot than I thought.

If you can't see the fundamental difference of losing 6-1 when you have 10 men for half the game, compared to losing 3-2 when you have 10 men for almost all the game then you are more of an idiot than I thought.
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That is not my point.

What is your point then? Throw me a bone.

That 10 men is seen as a valid excuse for losing.... whereas a lot of City fans had been laughing at that excuse for our derby loss.

Now all of a sudden it seems to be a valid reason.

If you take out the last 5 minutes of both the derby games the score was 3-1 to you at Old Trafford and 3-2 to us at United stadium.

the fact that city rightly parked the bus and hit us on the counter unlike us in the 6-1 defeat YOU STILL PARKED THE BUS and hit us on the counter which meant we were horrible exposed.

the difference is. mancini got his tactics right, fergie didnt

The sending off wasn't the reason you lost that game though was it.

True we were getting hammered 1-0 before that happened..

Wait a second!

All we can do is speculate, but if Evans hadn't have brought Balotelli down, one on one, you fancy us to go 2-0 up with less than a half to go.

Flip side, if Vinny hadn't have been sent off, 1-0 at home with about 80mins left, you'd fancy us to come back more than you would you at 2-0. Of course nothing more than speculation though...

Exactly, it is just as valid to say both derbies would have gone differently if it were not for the red card....