Cywka - Gone to Reading!

Some of the things people write about Clough are beyond the pale

al-ram

congratulations, you now have zero credibility.

i hope you see the irony in your response to my earlier comment.

maybe he hates tall people and thats why he got rid of hulse?...and people who have potato heads like jay mac?

oh and bueno stayed for the whole of his loan period btw

maybe he hates tall people and thats why he got rid of hulse?...and people who have potato heads like jay mac?

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If you guys really wish to band together and make stupid comments like this, which in no way, shape or form, link to this topic at all, due to the players in question leaving in completely different circumstances, then go ahead. Heck, if you wish to believe I think Clough is racist...etc, feel free, as seems to help you deal with the clear harm you have been caused by hearing someone dare claim that Clough our saviour can make mistakes from certain peoples perspectives.

I have quite unequivocally stated several times that I believe Clough has many fine qualities as manager and in no way want him sacked, but that doesn't mean he is beyond reproach.

I honestly feel he is someone who falls with people, because there has been too many players who have been erroneously blacklisted during his time here (both British and otherwise, I will once again state, because the one track mind of average football fan missed it last time) for it to just be 'players' own fault. Now for the record, I don't believe Clough is a racist, in the same way my grandmother was not a racist. He is in my opinion, a stubborn minded person, which means when faced with ideas and personalities outside his ideal norm, he refutes them and I honestly believe this problem seems to be intensified when the player in question is of a none-british background. This why our team has so few none-british players and those it does have, often appear to get isolated and frozen out the team very quickly. I maybe wrong and it maybe that Cwkya was just carp, but I saw Cwkya play quite a bit and I believe he was a very talented player and it was personality clash between him and Clough. Once again, I do not think this is because Clough is racist, but because Clough just doesn't appear too be accepting of ideals outside his own. This is why in my view, certain players strive to success under Clough and others don't.

PS bueno was still isolated and frozen out very quickly.

Now I realise this hearsay and mere opinion, but you know what, that ain't a big shocker; what you are writing is just hearsay and opinions on forums as well. Sorry if hunts you to realise your beliefs are no more founded than mine. Now if you prove to me to he is god, I will prove he isn't...wait, don't bother, we can't because everything we say here is fiction masking itself as fact and I am one of few who realises my opinions are little more than self-made glamour. As I said, this is what I believe and nothing more or less than that, because almost everything on this forum is just comments around what we believe, and you know what, I also believe there is nothing wrong with that, because I find others beliefs about my interests, interesting and whole heartily believe, you are entailed to believe differently to me, in fact I implore you too, because makes conversations more interesting, so I have no problem with that and unlike certain people here, I don't ask you to prove your 'unprovable' beliefs just because I don't like them and think making wicker men and vainglorious claims about facts is easy way to undermine other person. Why? Because I realise request is redundant and just way to stroke my own injured ego that someone elses opinion differs from my own.

I realise you probably have already made minds up and my beliefs will be in no way regarded because easier to mob together in witch hunt mentality, but i feel need to state them anyway for my own gratuitous gratification.

Sorry Taiwan but you're just being daft.

"Blacklisted" "Isolated and frozen out"

What on earth do you know about what goes on inside DCFC, far less Nigel clough's head?

Cloughie likes hard workers

All foreign players are lazy, as are Gingers

You do the math

Was it Clough who started the chant

Ginger pubes and Foreign players are unacceptable?

wicker man was a great film.
if my backyard was big enough (and it wouldnt burn down my house) i would build one and fill it with dwarves. possibly.

We're not banding together against you, Taiwan.

I'm sure we've each come to the conclusion quite independently that you made a comment that could easily be interpreted as a bit 'iffy'.

Let's just leave it at that.

I like Taiwan-Ally

If you popped onto this board and read this last page it would certainly look like you's were banding together against taiwan, and taiwan whilst you give a passionate defence it may be that your first comment earlier in the thread may have spawned the backlash and passionate defence of nigel, honest truth, who here really knows what happen's behind closed door's at PP, and not living in Derby I don't feel I have the authenticity to comment on all things Derby, maybe being in taiwan best to do similar.
I enjoy your posts, especially early morning taiwan, so lets all start a week of full on action and come sunday 5th we'll be happy RAMS, exciting times after last fews seasons, lets not get into more of whats already littered all over ja606 and move on. .