Liverpool fans

Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)

"the t shirts were worn after it was known that suarez had insulted evra using the negro term in a derogatory manner,he'd already admitted that much"

You've got it wrong again. The T shirts were worn after Suarez had said on that he used a term common in Spanish and South America, a term that his South American team mates use towards him (Evra). This was thought to be 'negrito' but turned out not to be. If it was already known that he'd used the term negro in a derogatory manner why the need for the hearing, the language experts etc etc? He was innocent until proven guilty at that point.

You say that we should wait until it's proven a Chelsea fans sent the bullet. Yet you claim Suarez was guilty, or had admitted his guilt, before the hearing or any evidence had been produced. That's a bit contradictory.

I noticed you had nothing to say on Evra's unreliable, but reliable, evidence. Do you see why we disagree with the verdict?

No
Think we'll never agree on this

I don't think LFC fans are racist for booing Evra. I do not think race had anything to do with the boos.

LFC fans were booing because they are delusional and unable to separate club loyalty from more serious issues. The way LFC have handled the situation is largely to blame for this delusion, and that is a massive shame.

So no, 99.9% of LFC fans are not racist, they are just completely unable to ignore club loyalty to form an impartial view of the Suarez case. You would hope this would not be the case with an issue as big as racism. However, I do not think LFC fans would be the only ones with this problem.

Have a great day x

I stand by Suarez

He's not a racist, part black himself, and I don't believe Evra's massively exaggerated and wildly changing story.

So we'll all just have to agree to disagree.

Ok so in your opinion Suarez was guilty before the hearing or any evidence had been produced. By association the club were guilty by wearing T shirts, because in your mind Suarez was already guilty.

Meanwhile we should hang back on assuming it was a Chelsea fan that sent a bullet to Anton Ferdinand. As there is no evidence to say it was.

Evra's evidence that

a) He was called negro 5 times (told to the ref during the match)

b) He was called negro 7 times (told to Fergie and the ref after the match)

c) He was called a n****r by Suarez (told to his team mates after the match)

d) He was racially abused up to 10 times and there is clear evidence of this on TV (told to French TV channel Canal +)

Was reliable and consistent?

That because Suarez admitted to saying the word negro (in the context of the question por que negro) once he must have said it the other 4,6 or 9 times. Depending on which piece of Evra's evidence you want to focus on. You believe that even if there was no evidence to prove he said it the other 4,6 or 9 times?

"LFC fans were booing because they are delusional and unable to separate club loyalty from more serious issues. The way LFC have handled the situation is largely to blame for this delusion, and that is a massive shame".

I know, we even had the foresight to boo Evra long before the racism incident even kicked off. Or we were booing him because he's a nasty, antagonistic little get who took on the Gary Neville mantle of winding Liverpool fans up.

Let's be clear here. Suarez might have made a racially sensitive comment which offended Evra. No question. Did he intend to offend? Debatable and 3 men though he "probably" did.

Was Evra an innocent party? NO. He used a racially offensive term BEFORE Suarez that referred to Suarez's ethnic origin and is deemed offensive in Spanish. The only difference is he didn't actually refer to the colour of Suarez's skin. So please understand that any malice towards Evra is not racially motivated, its hypocrisy motivated.

Please make sure you've read the full report before you try to deny this point ladies.

comment by red_man23 (U1669)
posted 14 minutes ago
"LFC fans were booing because they are delusional and unable to separate club loyalty from more serious issues. The way LFC have handled the situation is largely to blame for this delusion, and that is a massive shame".

I know, we even had the foresight to boo Evra long before the racism incident even kicked off. Or we were booing him because he's a nasty, antagonistic little get who took on the Gary Neville mantle of winding Liverpool fans up.

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To not accept that a large majority of boos towards Evra was not down to the Suarez case is well, dare I say it again, delusional.

UnitedbyRed:

I never thought Matterazzi should have had a ban, the only reason he did so is Zidane is one of the worlds most popular players so there was a general feeling of wanting to get back at Matterazzi.