It almost feels like the days Viera left.After the endless speculation when he finally did leave it was an awful day.
I know others will disagree about Cesc’s legendary status but for me its beyond debate.I know it will be a gut wrenching day for me when he leaves & Im slowly slipping into depression.
If Merson according to some was a legend then how can this catalan kid fail to be. He has given us 8 years, most of those in his youth.I remember when he signed his 7 year deal in 2009 refuting the transfer speculation as his friends (Flamster,Hleb) jumped ship. I have never questioned his commitment, its just that things have just gone bad in terms of our club ambitions such that I guess he sees his immediate future elsewhere.
I don’t agree with those that say we will slip out of the top 4 if he leaves, I believe Wenger will find a new way for us to maintain that spot, he always does but to those that complain about our tappy endless tika pass football well we might have more of it with Cesc gone because the difference between Cesc and our other players mainly Nasri, Arshavin, Jack and even van Persie is he is the only decisive player we have at the club.The other 4 slow down our play in the final third Cesc speeds it up.
Like some pundit said the other day, if Cesc had players like Villa & Messi in front of him, he would have 30 assists ever season it doesn’t matter if he has 3 hamstrings in that season or not.
If you find that hard to believe look at the season Adebayor score 30+ goals.
That’s why he creates the most chances from open play in Europe pity we as a club for the moment have failed to match his ambition.
It looks like this move could break Wenger aswell.we just have to move on,COYG.
I will miss you Cesc if you leave!
Cesc is an Arsenal Legend & I will miss him
posted on 28/6/11
well I have forgotten about Henry
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you seem to have completely put him out of your mind <smile>
JJG - yeah, i love Anders... and Stephan Swartz, but Bob Pires is my all time legend, him, and Lassana Diarra....
posted on 28/6/11
Fabregas has done legendary things.
His goal v AC Milan
His 14 second goal v Tottenham
His screamer against Tottenham "Dyanamite, Absolute Dynamite!"
Among other achievements.
posted on 28/6/11
Cesc is one of my favourite players ever. He may not have won stuff with us, but that 07-08 season he was out of this world. Fabregas has always given his all on the pitch - remember Puyol being sent off and then Fabregas injuring himself by scoring the penalty so violently? His 27 minute cameo against Villa? His goal from the kick-off against Spurs? His long range goal against Spurs? His goal against AC Milan? His goal against Juventus? His numerous passes in behind for Walcott/RVP/Nasri/Arshavin? Cesc has been our best player for at least the last four seasons, he is head and shoulders above any other midfielder in the league, and for me he is a legend. There is no other player I have enjoyed watching play as much except Bergkamp. Trophies? I really couldn't give a ****. I'm a football fan, not a magpie. I want to be inspired by what they do on the pitch, not have bragging rights on internet forums or in the office ffs. And cesc has been the poster boy for incisive attacking football at Arsenal whilst lesser players have asked for more money, sold out to city, fought with members of our squad.
All you who talk about the Ljungbergs and Parlours and Pireses of this world forget that they played in great teams. Cesc has hauled some distinctively average outfits up to the level of competitors in one of the toughest leagues in the world. £35m would be an absolute steal for Barca, and it seems like some of our own fans don't even know it.
posted on 28/6/11
I will be glad to see the back of him. One of your best and probably most influential players. Not sure that he had such a great season last time out - but without doubt - when fit and in form - one of the best players in the league.
You will be weaker without him.
posted on 28/6/11
You will be weaker without him.
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they said that when Pat, Henry, Pires all left.... we went from strength to strength..... and if i am not mistaken have won 2 emirates cups since they left....
posted on 28/6/11
they said that when Pat, Henry, Pires all left.... we went from strength to strength..... and if i am not mistaken have won 2 emirates cups since they left....
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was going to climb on the we went from strength to strength statement until you mentioned the emirates cups.
actually we never improved when Pat,Henry etal left us, yes we moved on, but improve is a LIE.
the thing is back then we were losing world class players probably at their peak but when we start counting from 2005 it comes to almost 8 very good players which we cant replace except look to rebuild from within.
Yes the cesc issue is really taxing, Im falling apart as we speak but lets not kid ourselves that we are getting stronger, we are not.
who can we get to replace Cesc and how much will he cost!
posted on 28/6/11
I'd just like to point out that I think Cesc is a phenomenal player. One of the best I've seen play and more gifted than the likes of Parlour and Ljungberg easily. But being a legend is about more than being good, or being important to the team it's about what you'e given the club as a whole and how you'll be remembered by the fans.
And for all the great moments Cesc has given us, he'll probably be remembered as that brilliantly talented player who never won enough for his talent and then left for Barcelona.
I hope I'm wrong and he stays and wins a hatful of trophies as captain, then he'll be up there with Adams and Vieira and the like, but if he goes this summer then he'll just be someone great who played for Arsenal rather than an Arsenal Great.
posted on 28/6/11
Legend? Hell no
Honorable mention? Definitely.
posted on 28/6/11
So why do you have to win things to be an Arsenal great?
Seems like a fairly abritrary criterion
posted on 28/6/11
"So why do you have to win things to be an Arsenal great?
Seems like a fairly abritrary criterion"
Because Arsenal as a club have been pretty successful for a long period of time, to stand out as a great you have to have contributed something pretty special. Which isn't necessarily winning things but it's certainly helpful. If Cesc never won a trophy again with us but stayed for the rest of his career and smashed the appearances record then he'd be an Arsenal great, a loyal servant and hero. But I can't really see that happening can you?
As things stand Cesc has done brilliantly for us, but does it compare to what other Arsenal greats have done? No. So he can't really be considered as one, in my opinion.