Are we starting all over again with Torres?

We were doing worse before Torres arrived, then better, then worse again. Everyone's fault.

No, its all Torres' fault. Think of what 15 goals from him would have achieved for us, Avb wouldn't have been sacked, even 5 goals could have saved avb. I never want to see him play important games for us again.

Our build up play is too slow for Torres. The same was true for Sheva. Put RvP in our side and he'd struggle to score.

The whole style is set up for Drogba and rightly so whilst he was our main striker but we need to change it. AVB was trying to do that but didn't have enough of the right players.

Let's back Torres if he plays.

I thought it was clear to everyone, including Avb that Torres is finished, why are people still calling for him to start, well I won't be watching the game if his name is on the team sheet cos it means we have learnt nothing.

We concede too early, too often. That for me is the biggest problem (and AVB did not help us in that regard) and a lot of other problems stem from that. We are always chasing games even at home against weak teams. Makes it tough to score when teams can drop back and defend in numbers.

TGI

That is very true. Our defence has been poor. Teams know it too. We need to start more quickly.

Mr Capello. Torres remains a good player. His movement is good but we are not playing to his strengths. Perhaps we should start assuming we are capable of that. I'm not convinced.

There was no need to sack Avb really, if we are talking about a man his country has dropped. Its a shame. Everyone else have moved on to better, healthy players and we are here still talking about Torres. I'm gutted. I'm I the only intelligent CFC fan in here.

They say the confirmation of madness is when believe you are the only sane one.

Really? Who said that?

No, its all Torres' fault.
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Sometimes it's all AVB's fault, sometimes it's all Torres' fault, sometimes it's the players fault, sometimes it's the boards fault, make your mind up!

And I hope Lukaku starts tonight