... By 'eck its about time we got some luck!
We've not really been known over the years in the Premier League for getting referee decisions going in our favour. There always seems to be one ref in particular who seems to have something really against us, Riley, Styles and most recently Clattenburg in particular.
I mean look at United. The classic example. How many penalties do they get in a season,especially at OT? Must be easily double figures? And probably half of these are debatable.
So, although I want to see goal line technology in our sport at the top level, I had a rare smile on my face come Saturday afternoon because its not often we come out of a game thinking, "By 'eck the officials have helped us out today". Yes, I know there was the offside too, but the goal that never was, was just laughable.
Just think ...
If that had happened against United, we wouldn't of heard the last of it from Rudolph and their congregation ...
Let's hope this is not the last of dubious decisions and get just that bit of luck we need to get over the line till the end of the season because we'll need it if we don't play well!
COYWM!
Goal Line technology is needed but ...
posted on 12/3/12
It was also an illegal corner that led to the qpr goal...
Barton put the ball outside the corner, when the ref had a word...he picked it up and still put it not quite in the area...
posted on 13/3/12
I want goal line technology. I wanted it even more when Everton got the benefit from the Ref and the linesman at the Bok.
Didn't Blatter say goal line technology would be looked into? I know it's not the same as saying it will be implemented but at least it hasn't been ruled out completly.
posted on 13/3/12
Fact is that if the officials had "done their job" as stated by a fuming Mark Hughes then there would've been no corner in the first place. I'm all for goal line technology but I'm also for getting the main decisions ON the pitch correct as well.
posted on 13/3/12
It's amazin' that the biggest spectator sport in the country doesn't make use of simple technology, when rugby league, cricket and even tennis all use it to great effect.
It would also make sense to have 2 linesmen on each side of the pitch, so they only had to patrol from the centre to one goalmouth, instead of the whole line, and thus could keep up with play much better than at present.
posted on 13/3/12
I would be interested to know the stats when 5 officials are officiating. I.e in UEFA/Euro cup games.
Do they see more incidents? Do they get a higher percentage correct?
posted on 13/3/12
My dissertation at uni is looking at technology in sport as a whole and how it could be implemented in football.
Not just looking at Goal-line technology, but looking further into how you could take influence from other sports.
I think there should be a referee referral system in place, like Cricket, where teams have the chance to make one appeal a half, or game, if their appeal is correct you keep it etc like in Cricket.
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But these appeals extend to any call, but with you only having 1, it will be saved for important incidents...you dont want to waste it and then have an incorrect goal awarded 5 minutes later.
Only with important decisions, the team can appeal the referee if they feel he has given a wrong decision, then the video ref has 30 seconds maximum to review the footage, an advantage over the on-field ref, and then give his own opinion to the on-field ref.
Using this would also increase the referee respect levels that the FA want. With players only needing to politely ask for a decision to be referred, the need to hound and surround a referee will cease. Then an off-field referee, away from influence from the crowd and players can give his decision.
Now, the off-field referee's decision is also subjective like the on-field referee, but at least the players and fans will feel safe in the knowledge that nothing has been missed, and a referee has had chance to review it and inspect it.
It would eradicate shirt pulling and diving in the area aswell. Defenders will stop tugging shirts as the players could refer this and get a penalty, and players will sotp diving, knowing that they will be caught out if they have 'cheated' for a pen....
What does everyone think?
70% of the survey wanted the Referral system i proposed.
posted on 14/3/12
Sounds a good system, its just what decision would be referred. Some things are subjective, i.e what is a foul. Plenty of times i have seen a player take the ball first and the ref give it the other way. Its a great system proposed, but i would only use it for Offsides (whereby if there is doubt, the attacking team has the benefit) and goal line, where only if it is definitive, a goal is awarded.
i am tempted to say handballs in the box, but that can be potentially subjective, i.e ball to hand, or hand to ball etc. i think open play fouls etc should be left to the refs, who ultimately are doing a very good job, considering the pace of play these days
posted on 14/3/12
Alternatively, the decision as to what should be referred could be left to the managers themselves. Each manager could be given 2 appeal cards for each game, to use as & when they wished, and for whatever incident. That way, teams could not complain about any bias (as to what the ref chose to review) as they themselves would be doing the selecting. Even if both managers used up both appeals, it's still only 4 referrals a game,. so no more than about an extra 5 mins a match....
posted on 14/3/12
The referrals would just basically stop monumental Cook ups.
So rather than a wrongly given red card being rescinded 3 days after TE game, it's rescinded 30 seconds later.
Obviously it's all subjective, but I'd rather a ref having 30 seconds and 20 angles than a badly positioned red, Lino etc in 3 seconds.
If a referee goes to consult with his linesman it's the same time needed to ask someone to look on a monitor. I would suggest a time limit, or all time spent reviewing a decision is ALL added to injury time. So if 4 minutes spent on referrals, all 4 minutes added.
The ball is only in play 60 minutes out of 90 anyway.
posted on 14/3/12
The ball is only in play 60 minutes out of 90 anyway.
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Simple way to sort that out. Do what rugby do. Every break in play you stop the clock. Time goes back on when play starts again. When the clock reaches 90 minutes the game ends. Simples.