Do a clear out as you are crap against any moderate European opposition...
...on reflection you don't have enough money to address your failings as a European team...
Never mind
Champions of the SPL
Respect
For me I'd have to get shot of O'Dea, Murphy, Jaurez, Dan, Cha, Loovens and Ras.
I'd bring in a CD, Fraser and a striker.
Uboat, it's the league we play in. Better to be at the top.
I think if we trim the fat all these wages combined can bring in one or two decent signings.
Europe is our benchmark and we need to improve. We are not arrogant enough to suggest otherwise.
whats happened with juarez. when he first joined he was our best player. then he just vanished!
but agree with your list, though it seems lennon plans on keeping the likes of loovens and cha. think we might let go of hooper or ki in the summer. a lot of people dont like ki but i think hes one of our best players on the park and is really the only one that can keep possession with his passing
still think we need a bobo balde type for CB and hopefully buy forster.
last year i was hoping we could have gone for ba since he had just gotten relegated with west ham! out of our range now though. what happened to that big center forward that played in portugal?
I think his price went through the roof....Or some French club bought him.
There's a lot less money being thrown around and the EPL have slowed down their spending of late....out with the big clubs of course.
I suspect we might be pleasantly surprised in the next window....I won't hold my breath though!
I think we need a good striker, doesn't have to be a target man. Just a good quality striker.
I like Russell form Dundee Utd.
We still have Bangura, I'm hoping he turns out to be a player.
I also think that we need at least 1 centre half (I know we have this polish boy coming in so we may just get away with it)
Apart from that, I think we're looking quite good.
We have a lot of players that we have seen much of aswell, hopefully we'll see them in the coming weeks and pre-season.
I don't actually think that we have a whole lot of money to spend in the summer. Our wage bill at the moment must be massive! I wouldn't be shocked to see us sell one, or even two, of the better players.
Ki seems the obvious choice (good passer of the ball and has a good footballing brian, but he just doesn't do it often enough in the SPL) For me, we wouldn't miss him that much.
In the centre we have Brown, Ledley, Wanyama and Kayal. Out wide we have, McCourt, Forrest, Samaras, Commons and McGeough (young lad, but looks good every time he plays)
So, I think there is enough creativity in there for us.
I've heard Hooper mentioned a lot recently aswell, I think that would leave us in a tight spot. We'd need to bring in at least two good quality strikers then. He seems to have gone off the boil a few times this season, but with Jelavic gone he is the one striker in the SPL that has genuine quality.
I'd like to see us get shot of Loovens, O'Dea, Murphy, Rasmussen, Cha, Juarez, M.Wilson (really like the lad, but his injuries over the years have held him back too much)
I'd also like to see us loan out a lot of the younger lads. Playing under 19s, you can only develop so far. I think some competative first team football will benefit some of the boys.
Of course, the coaching staff will know which ones are ready and able to do this.
I know Lennon talked about needing more strength on the wings....He might well want to bring in another winger.
I agree about some of the youth players getting a chance. I thought Twardsik(sp) showed some quality touches against Killie.
The touch from Twardsik for Ledleys goal was quality.
I don't see how we need ANOTHER winger? We have Samaras, Commons, McCourt, Forrest, Ibrahim and McGeouch.
You can only play two wingers each game, we have 6.
Wouldnt have though we'd need any more.
O'Dea
Cha
Loovens
Majstorovic
Mccourt
Juarez
M.Wilson
Rasmussen
Thompson
Murphy
McGinn
Towell
Will all definitely leave, in my opinion.
I think that McGinn and Murphy will both go, as their loan clubs have both expressed interest in them.
Any money we could get would be nice, but if they leave for nothing then at least they're off the wage bill.
I'd be hoping that we could get some money in for a few of them on that list.
We will get money for Juarez from somewhere in Spain or South America.
Mccourt, Murphy and O'Dea will find Championship clubs who will pay a few hundred thousand.
I think that with Paddy always injured, Commons taking nearly a full season to get back to fitness and Forrest being our only serious touch of class on the wings this season............If we can get another quality winger in for Europe, I'd be ok with that.
Excuse me Bhoyzilla - Our only touch of class on the wings? Have you not seen Gorgeous George play on the wing?!
I think that if we can get Commons fit then he's a different class to the rest of the SPL. His set pieces are outstanding (look how dangerous we looked on Saturday) and he can bang goals in from all over the pitch.
But, that's IF we can keep him fit.
Sammy is great, but I'd rather have two players for every position and because of Paddy and Commons not being the fittest so far in their time with us...A fifth quality winger would be nice.
Mccourt should leave, I like Mccourt and he has saved us many times.
But he is a very talented player and it is not good to see him sitting in the stands all the time, he is ageing as well.
He would do well at someone like Blackpool.
I'd sign Mackay-Stevens as a replacement.
Think Mackay-Stevens would cost a bit of cash.
Depending on the cost, he could be worth a shout.
I am being realistic, I think the Europa League group stages are where we are realistically going to end up.
Nothing wrong with that, the group we got this season was difficult because we took Sion's place and they were not seeded. We would be seeded and would have an easier group.
I've spoke about the outgoings, now for the players in.
We need a goalkeeper, I hope we can get Forster. I see that Marian Kello was released by Hearts last week and is presently a free-agent. Not a bad goalkeeper, but I think we should try and sign up Forster.
We have already signed Polish International defender, Jaroslav Fojut.
A striker is a necessity, Lennon has targeted many strikers and financial restrictions have left us with targets further down the list. I'd like to see someone like Russell. But we may also need a more physical striker, who can give us another way of changing the game in some of the bigger games.
I would love us to go out in the qualifiers and play the kind of football we played at the Rennes game or against Udinese....
I'll be keeping the faith until we're kicked out.
We will get some Eastern European team, if we win that then you are looking at playing someone like Schalke, Napoli or Arsenal.
I'd love us to play Arsenal. I think we're a better team than the one who played them the last time.
We'd gee them a game this time.
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Subs.
Yes, but we play two qualifiers. The third round against the likes of your Malmo and that, then the play-off round.
Am I right in thinking if we can win the 1st tie against whoever, we are guaranteed Europa League group stages even if we lose 2nd qualifier?
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posted on 9/4/12
Do a clear out as you are crap against any moderate European opposition...
...on reflection you don't have enough money to address your failings as a European team...
Never mind
Champions of the SPL
Respect
posted on 9/4/12
For me I'd have to get shot of O'Dea, Murphy, Jaurez, Dan, Cha, Loovens and Ras.
I'd bring in a CD, Fraser and a striker.
posted on 9/4/12
Uboat, it's the league we play in. Better to be at the top.
I think if we trim the fat all these wages combined can bring in one or two decent signings.
Europe is our benchmark and we need to improve. We are not arrogant enough to suggest otherwise.
posted on 9/4/12
whats happened with juarez. when he first joined he was our best player. then he just vanished!
but agree with your list, though it seems lennon plans on keeping the likes of loovens and cha. think we might let go of hooper or ki in the summer. a lot of people dont like ki but i think hes one of our best players on the park and is really the only one that can keep possession with his passing
still think we need a bobo balde type for CB and hopefully buy forster.
last year i was hoping we could have gone for ba since he had just gotten relegated with west ham! out of our range now though. what happened to that big center forward that played in portugal?
posted on 9/4/12
I think his price went through the roof....Or some French club bought him.
There's a lot less money being thrown around and the EPL have slowed down their spending of late....out with the big clubs of course.
I suspect we might be pleasantly surprised in the next window....I won't hold my breath though!
posted on 9/4/12
I think we need a good striker, doesn't have to be a target man. Just a good quality striker.
I like Russell form Dundee Utd.
We still have Bangura, I'm hoping he turns out to be a player.
I also think that we need at least 1 centre half (I know we have this polish boy coming in so we may just get away with it)
Apart from that, I think we're looking quite good.
We have a lot of players that we have seen much of aswell, hopefully we'll see them in the coming weeks and pre-season.
I don't actually think that we have a whole lot of money to spend in the summer. Our wage bill at the moment must be massive! I wouldn't be shocked to see us sell one, or even two, of the better players.
Ki seems the obvious choice (good passer of the ball and has a good footballing brian, but he just doesn't do it often enough in the SPL) For me, we wouldn't miss him that much.
In the centre we have Brown, Ledley, Wanyama and Kayal. Out wide we have, McCourt, Forrest, Samaras, Commons and McGeough (young lad, but looks good every time he plays)
So, I think there is enough creativity in there for us.
I've heard Hooper mentioned a lot recently aswell, I think that would leave us in a tight spot. We'd need to bring in at least two good quality strikers then. He seems to have gone off the boil a few times this season, but with Jelavic gone he is the one striker in the SPL that has genuine quality.
I'd like to see us get shot of Loovens, O'Dea, Murphy, Rasmussen, Cha, Juarez, M.Wilson (really like the lad, but his injuries over the years have held him back too much)
I'd also like to see us loan out a lot of the younger lads. Playing under 19s, you can only develop so far. I think some competative first team football will benefit some of the boys.
Of course, the coaching staff will know which ones are ready and able to do this.
posted on 9/4/12
I know Lennon talked about needing more strength on the wings....He might well want to bring in another winger.
I agree about some of the youth players getting a chance. I thought Twardsik(sp) showed some quality touches against Killie.
posted on 9/4/12
The touch from Twardsik for Ledleys goal was quality.
I don't see how we need ANOTHER winger? We have Samaras, Commons, McCourt, Forrest, Ibrahim and McGeouch.
You can only play two wingers each game, we have 6.
Wouldnt have though we'd need any more.
posted on 9/4/12
O'Dea
Cha
Loovens
Majstorovic
Mccourt
Juarez
M.Wilson
Rasmussen
Thompson
Murphy
McGinn
Towell
Will all definitely leave, in my opinion.
posted on 9/4/12
I think that McGinn and Murphy will both go, as their loan clubs have both expressed interest in them.
Any money we could get would be nice, but if they leave for nothing then at least they're off the wage bill.
I'd be hoping that we could get some money in for a few of them on that list.
posted on 9/4/12
We will get money for Juarez from somewhere in Spain or South America.
Mccourt, Murphy and O'Dea will find Championship clubs who will pay a few hundred thousand.
posted on 9/4/12
I think that with Paddy always injured, Commons taking nearly a full season to get back to fitness and Forrest being our only serious touch of class on the wings this season............If we can get another quality winger in for Europe, I'd be ok with that.
posted on 9/4/12
Excuse me Bhoyzilla - Our only touch of class on the wings? Have you not seen Gorgeous George play on the wing?!
I think that if we can get Commons fit then he's a different class to the rest of the SPL. His set pieces are outstanding (look how dangerous we looked on Saturday) and he can bang goals in from all over the pitch.
But, that's IF we can keep him fit.
posted on 9/4/12
Sammy is great, but I'd rather have two players for every position and because of Paddy and Commons not being the fittest so far in their time with us...A fifth quality winger would be nice.
posted on 9/4/12
Mccourt should leave, I like Mccourt and he has saved us many times.
But he is a very talented player and it is not good to see him sitting in the stands all the time, he is ageing as well.
He would do well at someone like Blackpool.
I'd sign Mackay-Stevens as a replacement.
posted on 9/4/12
Think Mackay-Stevens would cost a bit of cash.
Depending on the cost, he could be worth a shout.
posted on 9/4/12
I am being realistic, I think the Europa League group stages are where we are realistically going to end up.
Nothing wrong with that, the group we got this season was difficult because we took Sion's place and they were not seeded. We would be seeded and would have an easier group.
posted on 9/4/12
I've spoke about the outgoings, now for the players in.
We need a goalkeeper, I hope we can get Forster. I see that Marian Kello was released by Hearts last week and is presently a free-agent. Not a bad goalkeeper, but I think we should try and sign up Forster.
We have already signed Polish International defender, Jaroslav Fojut.
A striker is a necessity, Lennon has targeted many strikers and financial restrictions have left us with targets further down the list. I'd like to see someone like Russell. But we may also need a more physical striker, who can give us another way of changing the game in some of the bigger games.
posted on 9/4/12
I would love us to go out in the qualifiers and play the kind of football we played at the Rennes game or against Udinese....
I'll be keeping the faith until we're kicked out.
posted on 9/4/12
We will get some Eastern European team, if we win that then you are looking at playing someone like Schalke, Napoli or Arsenal.
posted on 9/4/12
I'd love us to play Arsenal. I think we're a better team than the one who played them the last time.
We'd gee them a game this time.
posted on 9/4/12
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Subs.
Yes, but we play two qualifiers. The third round against the likes of your Malmo and that, then the play-off round.
posted on 9/4/12
Am I right in thinking if we can win the 1st tie against whoever, we are guaranteed Europa League group stages even if we lose 2nd qualifier?
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