Statement or a question, or both?
In likelihood though, yes. Gone. See you at Tu|2d Moor next season!
Been down a week already aint we?
It’s a statement and a question. I believe we will be relegated regardless of whether we win or not on Saturday.
My heart says 3 pts from Norwich, 3 pts from Wigan and other results going are way and we could pull off the mother of all escapes.
My head says we are playing sh*te and are the 2nd worst team in the league and deserve to be relegated.
I think whatever happens, we're down.
And I bet we don't win
Wigan were slightly hard done by last season at Ewood- this season they will send us down (if we are not already down by then).
I think at the moment we've got a small chance, but if we don't win on saturday we'll have no chance.
On the positive size if we are relegated……
Venkys will probably leave
New board will take over with clubs best interests at heart
Kean will get sacked
We have no money so will have to invest in youth development
We can hire a new young exciting dynamic manager
A couple of years of playing Championship level football will give these young players vital experience
We will seal promotion back to the premier league
We will win the premier league
Keep the faith!
"Unbelievable scenes here on the last day of the premier league season- Cech looks flabbergasted- David Goodwillie has just scored his 3RD GOAL!, a gravity defying bicycle kick into the roof of the net...
"Blackburn Rovers have survived here by the skin of their teeth, and my oh my have they proved their critics wrong, Myles Anderson with 2 assists here at Stamford Bridge..."
FETISH!! FETISH WAKE UP!!
Stay off that blue cheese
As Blackadder said 'wibble'.
What makes you think Venkys will leave?
Outgoings will have been reduced to less than turnover hence player sales and parachute payments will be pure profit!
Will have to get rid of a lot of players to make it so outgoings are less than turnover
This season
£40m share of Prem league tv deal,
£500k per match on TV,
£7m ticket sales for season,
£0 sponsor
£12m profit from transfers
Next year
£2.6 m Tv
£14m Parachute payment
£? Ticket Sales, £3.5m?
£? Sponsorship deal
£32.5m in from transfers, being optimistic about some of the fees we'll receive
Paul Robinson £3m
Martin Olsson £4m
Gaël Givet £2m
Mauro Formica £2.5m
Morten Gamst Pedersen £2m
Steven N'Zonzi £4m
Rubén Rochina £3m
Junior Hoilett £3m (that young player rule means we get some compensation, I might be being optimistic about the amount)
Yakubu £3m
Simon Vukčević £2m
Scott Dann £4m
God our youth players better be able to compete at Championship level
comment by PieEater - Kean has 3 games to save himself... starting August! (U3479)
posted 11 minutes ago
What makes you think Venkys will leave?
********************************************************
Maybe not immediately but eventually they will especially if we languish in the league for a few seasons or even worse go down to league 1. The money will dry up, attendences will drop dramatically, and TV money will decrease. Not much money to be made anymore so hopefully this will result in them packing their bags and leaving.
Will have to get rid of a lot of players to make it so outgoings are less than turnover
This season
£40m share of Prem league tv deal,
£500k per match on TV,
£7m ticket sales for season,
£0 sponsor
£12m profit from transfers
Next year
£2.6 m Tv
£14m Parachute payment
£? Ticket Sales, £3.5m?
£? Sponsorship deal
£32.5m in from transfers, being optimistic about some of the fees we'll receive
Paul Robinson £3m
Martin Olsson £4m
Gaël Givet £2m
Mauro Formica £2.5m
Morten Gamst Pedersen £2m
Steven N'Zonzi £4m
Rubén Rochina £3m
Junior Hoilett £3m (that young player rule means we get some compensation, I might be being optimistic about the amount)
Yakubu £3m
Simon Vukčević £2m
Scott Dann £4m
God our youth players better be able to compete at Championship level
All makes depressing reading!
Wils, perhaps but I believe player wages were about 85% of turnover in a report about 3 years ago. So if you take TV and Tickets there's about £7.8m left to run the club on.
Next season we could have a squad of 25 players on £10k per week, that's £13m over the year. £6.1m from TV and Tickets maybe rounded upto £7m with sponsorship. Sell Yak and Robbo and the wages are covered.
The other £7.8m that remained previously to run the club could come from selling N'Zonzi and Olsson.
The parachute payment and other sales are pure profit!
Kerching!
Sounds to me that reality is finally dawning. Venkys saw a chance to make some quick money and took it. The only way you ( their customers) can get rid of them is to starve them of their lifeblood. eg CASH. 3 to 6 months of vey low income should force them out. Remember.......The customer is King.
True enough ,to stay away from Ewood is like a nightmare!No football just walking the Rover every Saturday is not right appealing.
Sounds to me that reality is finally dawning"
Cool, glad you are catching up at last.
Star, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. Yes it is very difficult to stay away but the long term benefits could be huge. Just trying to help.
OOJW, Not catching up, its been coming since The Trust took over something that none of them really had a passion for.
Clearly hasn't been coming since the Trust took over. It either came before that with people like Jack or since, with an unfit fit and proper persons plus ridiculous player power!
Pie......Who took the unfit fit and proper persons money and disappeared into sunset ? or are you seriously blaming Uncle Jack ?
The Trust were instructed to look after the best interests of the family businessES!
One of the business was haemorrhaging money, what were the trust to do?
And I wasn't blaming Jack but highlighting that when the mega investment came into the game everything snowballed. People have seen an opportunity to make money but it has come at a cost to some. The game has become ridiculously disproportionate from top to bottom and the history of clubs that represent the towns of you and I can be under threat!
Pie, I think we are saying the same thing in different ways. Your last sentence sums it up perfectly. The Burnleys,Blackburns and Boltons of the football league cannot compete at the top level any more. Money rules,not history.
Next season we could have a squad of 25 players on £10k per week, that's £13m over the year. £6.1m from TV and Tickets maybe rounded upto £7m with sponsorship. Sell Yak and Robbo and the wages are covered.
The other £7.8m that remained previously to run the club could come from selling N'Zonzi and Olsson.
The parachute payment and other sales are pure profit!
-----------
Only time will tell on this in my opinion. I can see 3 options
1. Venkys could attempt to do a Mike Ashley and take a financial hit for one year in the hope that we bounce back up. Few things wrong with this. How many of the current squad would want to stay around, I really can't see us coming straight back up and there's no way Venkys would pump money into us.
2. Consolidate and rebuild. Get rid of the majority of current players. All the ones I listed above will be on too much to sustain in the Championship and, even if I have been a bit generous with the transfer fees, we should get a fair whack of money from them. Invest some of this on players that will keep us in the Championship and build a squad over time to take us back up
3. Asset Strip. Sell all those players. Reinvest pretty much F/A of it. Pop over a couple of times in next few years to collect the parachute payments. Hey if any of the youth players show some promise we can sell them to the first bidder as well.
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posted on 18/4/12
will the yak be fit?
posted on 18/4/12
Statement or a question, or both?
In likelihood though, yes. Gone. See you at Tu|2d Moor next season!
posted on 18/4/12
Been down a week already aint we?
posted on 18/4/12
It’s a statement and a question. I believe we will be relegated regardless of whether we win or not on Saturday.
My heart says 3 pts from Norwich, 3 pts from Wigan and other results going are way and we could pull off the mother of all escapes.
My head says we are playing sh*te and are the 2nd worst team in the league and deserve to be relegated.
posted on 18/4/12
I think whatever happens, we're down.
And I bet we don't win
posted on 18/4/12
Wigan were slightly hard done by last season at Ewood- this season they will send us down (if we are not already down by then).
posted on 18/4/12
I think at the moment we've got a small chance, but if we don't win on saturday we'll have no chance.
posted on 18/4/12
On the positive size if we are relegated……
Venkys will probably leave
New board will take over with clubs best interests at heart
Kean will get sacked
We have no money so will have to invest in youth development
We can hire a new young exciting dynamic manager
A couple of years of playing Championship level football will give these young players vital experience
We will seal promotion back to the premier league
We will win the premier league
Keep the faith!
posted on 18/4/12
"Unbelievable scenes here on the last day of the premier league season- Cech looks flabbergasted- David Goodwillie has just scored his 3RD GOAL!, a gravity defying bicycle kick into the roof of the net...
"Blackburn Rovers have survived here by the skin of their teeth, and my oh my have they proved their critics wrong, Myles Anderson with 2 assists here at Stamford Bridge..."
FETISH!! FETISH WAKE UP!!
posted on 18/4/12
Stay off that blue cheese
As Blackadder said 'wibble'.
posted on 18/4/12
What makes you think Venkys will leave?
Outgoings will have been reduced to less than turnover hence player sales and parachute payments will be pure profit!
posted on 18/4/12
Will have to get rid of a lot of players to make it so outgoings are less than turnover
This season
£40m share of Prem league tv deal,
£500k per match on TV,
£7m ticket sales for season,
£0 sponsor
£12m profit from transfers
Next year
£2.6 m Tv
£14m Parachute payment
£? Ticket Sales, £3.5m?
£? Sponsorship deal
£32.5m in from transfers, being optimistic about some of the fees we'll receive
Paul Robinson £3m
Martin Olsson £4m
Gaël Givet £2m
Mauro Formica £2.5m
Morten Gamst Pedersen £2m
Steven N'Zonzi £4m
Rubén Rochina £3m
Junior Hoilett £3m (that young player rule means we get some compensation, I might be being optimistic about the amount)
Yakubu £3m
Simon Vukčević £2m
Scott Dann £4m
God our youth players better be able to compete at Championship level
posted on 18/4/12
comment by PieEater - Kean has 3 games to save himself... starting August! (U3479)
posted 11 minutes ago
What makes you think Venkys will leave?
********************************************************
Maybe not immediately but eventually they will especially if we languish in the league for a few seasons or even worse go down to league 1. The money will dry up, attendences will drop dramatically, and TV money will decrease. Not much money to be made anymore so hopefully this will result in them packing their bags and leaving.
posted on 18/4/12
Will have to get rid of a lot of players to make it so outgoings are less than turnover
This season
£40m share of Prem league tv deal,
£500k per match on TV,
£7m ticket sales for season,
£0 sponsor
£12m profit from transfers
Next year
£2.6 m Tv
£14m Parachute payment
£? Ticket Sales, £3.5m?
£? Sponsorship deal
£32.5m in from transfers, being optimistic about some of the fees we'll receive
Paul Robinson £3m
Martin Olsson £4m
Gaël Givet £2m
Mauro Formica £2.5m
Morten Gamst Pedersen £2m
Steven N'Zonzi £4m
Rubén Rochina £3m
Junior Hoilett £3m (that young player rule means we get some compensation, I might be being optimistic about the amount)
Yakubu £3m
Simon Vukčević £2m
Scott Dann £4m
God our youth players better be able to compete at Championship level
All makes depressing reading!
posted on 18/4/12
Wils, perhaps but I believe player wages were about 85% of turnover in a report about 3 years ago. So if you take TV and Tickets there's about £7.8m left to run the club on.
Next season we could have a squad of 25 players on £10k per week, that's £13m over the year. £6.1m from TV and Tickets maybe rounded upto £7m with sponsorship. Sell Yak and Robbo and the wages are covered.
The other £7.8m that remained previously to run the club could come from selling N'Zonzi and Olsson.
The parachute payment and other sales are pure profit!
Kerching!
posted on 18/4/12
Sounds to me that reality is finally dawning. Venkys saw a chance to make some quick money and took it. The only way you ( their customers) can get rid of them is to starve them of their lifeblood. eg CASH. 3 to 6 months of vey low income should force them out. Remember.......The customer is King.
posted on 18/4/12
True enough ,to stay away from Ewood is like a nightmare!No football just walking the Rover every Saturday is not right appealing.
posted on 18/4/12
Sounds to me that reality is finally dawning"
Cool, glad you are catching up at last.
posted on 18/4/12
Star, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. Yes it is very difficult to stay away but the long term benefits could be huge. Just trying to help.
OOJW, Not catching up, its been coming since The Trust took over something that none of them really had a passion for.
posted on 18/4/12
Clearly hasn't been coming since the Trust took over. It either came before that with people like Jack or since, with an unfit fit and proper persons plus ridiculous player power!
posted on 18/4/12
Pie......Who took the unfit fit and proper persons money and disappeared into sunset ? or are you seriously blaming Uncle Jack ?
posted on 18/4/12
The Trust were instructed to look after the best interests of the family businessES!
One of the business was haemorrhaging money, what were the trust to do?
And I wasn't blaming Jack but highlighting that when the mega investment came into the game everything snowballed. People have seen an opportunity to make money but it has come at a cost to some. The game has become ridiculously disproportionate from top to bottom and the history of clubs that represent the towns of you and I can be under threat!
posted on 18/4/12
Pie, I think we are saying the same thing in different ways. Your last sentence sums it up perfectly. The Burnleys,Blackburns and Boltons of the football league cannot compete at the top level any more. Money rules,not history.
posted on 19/4/12
Next season we could have a squad of 25 players on £10k per week, that's £13m over the year. £6.1m from TV and Tickets maybe rounded upto £7m with sponsorship. Sell Yak and Robbo and the wages are covered.
The other £7.8m that remained previously to run the club could come from selling N'Zonzi and Olsson.
The parachute payment and other sales are pure profit!
-----------
Only time will tell on this in my opinion. I can see 3 options
1. Venkys could attempt to do a Mike Ashley and take a financial hit for one year in the hope that we bounce back up. Few things wrong with this. How many of the current squad would want to stay around, I really can't see us coming straight back up and there's no way Venkys would pump money into us.
2. Consolidate and rebuild. Get rid of the majority of current players. All the ones I listed above will be on too much to sustain in the Championship and, even if I have been a bit generous with the transfer fees, we should get a fair whack of money from them. Invest some of this on players that will keep us in the Championship and build a squad over time to take us back up
3. Asset Strip. Sell all those players. Reinvest pretty much F/A of it. Pop over a couple of times in next few years to collect the parachute payments. Hey if any of the youth players show some promise we can sell them to the first bidder as well.
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