comment by Oscar. #TeamFury #TeamTrump2024 #FightFightFight (U12980)
posted 31 minutes ago
Lazy Sancho apparently….
Jadon Sancho won more duels (8) than any other player in the game.
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who said hes lazy?
But duels won/lost doesn't really highlight workrate anyway mate.
utd have got porto away, villa away then brentford at home. Depending how those games go I think brentford will be his last game
Think Ten Hag will be sacked over upcoming international break, gives them time to plan next manager.
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
Think Ten Hag will be sacked over upcoming international break, gives them time to plan next manager.
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he has to be sacked, otherwise they will just spiral and their season wil be over
We’ve already had 3 hat tricks this season
Technically the last one was a fourtrick
If Palmer was in the Conference League squad he could’ve stat padded crazily.
Will be surprised if he is not in it for the knockout gamrs
Genius former coach Potter is on MNF
I do actually think Potter would have done a lot better with the more settled team we have now then the chaos he inherited, but he just lacked the personality for a top job imo.
I don't think anyone could have succeeded walking into what Potter did. As I said at the time you could put prime Jose or Pep in that scenario and they'd both have failed as well.
So for me it's really difficult to judge Potter as a coach because he did very well at Brighton and his time at Chelsea barely counts imo. I suspect that he'll do at least quite well in his next PL job if it ever happens.
As delighted as I am for Cole netting four does anyone else think that others in the team could have got a bit more credit for their parts in the goals? Nico Jackson drawing the keeper out and then laying it on a plate for Palmer for the first goal and Sancho's lovely through ball for Cole's fourth. Both very much team goals I thought with Fernandez and Sancho's intricate interplay resulting in the pen for the second goal.
No doubt that Palmer's beautiful freekick for the third goal was all on him though.
“ Nico Jackson drawing the keeper out and then laying it on a plate for Palmer for the first goal”
I actually think you’re giving waaaay too much credit to Jackson here. He was ahead of the defender but stumbled and miscontrolled the ball, and was fortunate that his mishit pass found Palmer. And he didn’t lay it “on a plate” either - it was a difficult finish that I doubt anyone else in the team would have scored from.
Jackson does great running off the ball, and a number of our goals have come from his excellent movement. But all too often he gets into great positions and then nothing will come of it due to poor final passes or bad decision making. He often does the difficult thing and then messes up the easy part. I do believe in him though, and think he will improve.
comment by BlueJ2 (U4630)
posted 2 minutes ago
“ Nico Jackson drawing the keeper out and then laying it on a plate for Palmer for the first goal”
I actually think you’re giving waaaay too much credit to Jackson here. He was ahead of the defender but stumbled and miscontrolled the ball, and was fortunate that his mishit pass found Palmer. And he didn’t lay it “on a plate” either - it was a difficult finish that I doubt anyone else in the team would have scored from.
Jackson does great running off the ball, and a number of our goals have come from his excellent movement. But all too often he gets into great positions and then nothing will come of it due to poor final passes or bad decision making. He often does the difficult thing and then messes up the easy part. I do believe in him though, and think he will improve.
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That is exactly my take, word for word.
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
I do actually think Potter would have done a lot better with the more settled team we have now then the chaos he inherited, but he just lacked the personality for a top job imo.
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He definitely suffered being the guy after Tuchel. I think most of us could see the owners were making his job impossible, but it's really hard to get behind a good manager in the knowledge we ditched a great one for no good reason to get them.
It says a lot for me when despite looking at the results, I don't consider him even in the conversation of our worst managers I've seen.
His last game is quite telling too. Usually a managers last game (in a mid-season sacking) is a depressing affair where the team look apathetic and/or imbalanced beyond the point of no return. From memory his last game was Villa (H) where we actually peppered them but got caught losing 0-2.
Starting horribly & getting sacked in the midst of turning a corner just shows the problems had little to do with him.
And he didn’t lay it “on a plate” either - it was a difficult finish that I doubt anyone else in the team would have scored from.
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It wasn't remotely difficult. The goalkeeper wasn't even in goal when the ball comes to Palmer as Jackson had dragged the keeper completely out of position. So the goal mouth is empty apart from one defender who obviously can only do so much. It's a straightforward shot for any PL attacker to make.
Cole Palmer has been directly involved in more Premier League goals than any other player since the start of last season and now has more goal contributions (43) than PL appearances for Chelsea (39).
https://x.com/Squawka/status/1840142260798685298
Jackson
𝐈𝐛𝐫𝐚𝐡𝐢𝐦 𝐑𝐚𝐛𝐛𝐚𝐣 (𝟏𝟓) is another star in the making in Cobham
… and he was also called-up for the U16 English National Team
Ibrahim’s insane U16 Stats:
🏟️ 40 Games
▫️52 Goals
▫️60 Assists
▫️112 G+A
https://x.com/RisingStarXI/status/1838597903813628345/photo/2
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Got our own Messi. Hopefully he stays put. Already lost 2 highly rated youth players to City/Pool last summer.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 9 hours, 52 minutes ago
As delighted as I am for Cole netting four does anyone else think that others in the team could have got a bit more credit for their parts in the goals? Nico Jackson drawing the keeper out and then laying it on a plate for Palmer for the first goal and Sancho's lovely through ball for Cole's fourth. Both very much team goals I thought with Fernandez and Sancho's intricate interplay resulting in the pen for the second goal.
No doubt that Palmer's beautiful freekick for the third goal was all on him though.
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Agree with you. Seems silly to suggest Jackson didn’t mean that pass.
Seems silly to suggest Jackson didn’t mean that pass.
I mean I think he meant it, but past actions could make it dubious lol
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 11 hours, 2 minutes ago
And he didn’t lay it “on a plate” either - it was a difficult finish that I doubt anyone else in the team would have scored from.
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It wasn't remotely difficult. The goalkeeper wasn't even in goal when the ball comes to Palmer as Jackson had dragged the keeper completely out of position. So the goal mouth is empty apart from one defender who obviously can only do so much. It's a straightforward shot for any PL attacker to make.
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wouldnt trust sterling, werner or havertz to score that though
🚨 Chelsea are amongst a host of top European clubs to have expressed an interest in centre back Vitor Reis. (@TheAthleticFC)
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 11 hours, 2 minutes ago
And he didn’t lay it “on a plate” either - it was a difficult finish that I doubt anyone else in the team would have scored from.
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It wasn't remotely difficult. The goalkeeper wasn't even in goal when the ball comes to Palmer as Jackson had dragged the keeper completely out of position. So the goal mouth is empty apart from one defender who obviously can only do so much. It's a straightforward shot for any PL attacker to make.
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wouldnt trust sterling, werner or havertz to score that though
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It's probably the sort of calamity that Timo might have made for us I'll give you that
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 4 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 9 hours, 52 minutes ago
As delighted as I am for Cole netting four does anyone else think that others in the team could have got a bit more credit for their parts in the goals? Nico Jackson drawing the keeper out and then laying it on a plate for Palmer for the first goal and Sancho's lovely through ball for Cole's fourth. Both very much team goals I thought with Fernandez and Sancho's intricate interplay resulting in the pen for the second goal.
No doubt that Palmer's beautiful freekick for the third goal was all on him though.
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Agree with you. Seems silly to suggest Jackson didn’t mean that pass.
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Yup, I'm at a loss as to why anyone would think that Jackson doesn't mean that pass. He's looking at Palmer as he's passing it to him. Not sure how clearer it could possibly be lol.
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posted on 30/9/24
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury #TeamTrump2024 #FightFightFight (U12980)
posted 31 minutes ago
Lazy Sancho apparently….
Jadon Sancho won more duels (8) than any other player in the game.
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who said hes lazy?
But duels won/lost doesn't really highlight workrate anyway mate.
posted on 30/9/24
utd have got porto away, villa away then brentford at home. Depending how those games go I think brentford will be his last game
posted on 30/9/24
Think Ten Hag will be sacked over upcoming international break, gives them time to plan next manager.
posted on 30/9/24
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
Think Ten Hag will be sacked over upcoming international break, gives them time to plan next manager.
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he has to be sacked, otherwise they will just spiral and their season wil be over
posted on 30/9/24
We’ve already had 3 hat tricks this season
posted on 30/9/24
Technically the last one was a fourtrick
posted on 30/9/24
If Palmer was in the Conference League squad he could’ve stat padded crazily.
posted on 30/9/24
Will be surprised if he is not in it for the knockout gamrs
posted on 30/9/24
Genius former coach Potter is on MNF
posted on 30/9/24
I do actually think Potter would have done a lot better with the more settled team we have now then the chaos he inherited, but he just lacked the personality for a top job imo.
posted on 30/9/24
I don't think anyone could have succeeded walking into what Potter did. As I said at the time you could put prime Jose or Pep in that scenario and they'd both have failed as well.
So for me it's really difficult to judge Potter as a coach because he did very well at Brighton and his time at Chelsea barely counts imo. I suspect that he'll do at least quite well in his next PL job if it ever happens.
posted on 30/9/24
As delighted as I am for Cole netting four does anyone else think that others in the team could have got a bit more credit for their parts in the goals? Nico Jackson drawing the keeper out and then laying it on a plate for Palmer for the first goal and Sancho's lovely through ball for Cole's fourth. Both very much team goals I thought with Fernandez and Sancho's intricate interplay resulting in the pen for the second goal.
No doubt that Palmer's beautiful freekick for the third goal was all on him though.
posted on 30/9/24
“ Nico Jackson drawing the keeper out and then laying it on a plate for Palmer for the first goal”
I actually think you’re giving waaaay too much credit to Jackson here. He was ahead of the defender but stumbled and miscontrolled the ball, and was fortunate that his mishit pass found Palmer. And he didn’t lay it “on a plate” either - it was a difficult finish that I doubt anyone else in the team would have scored from.
Jackson does great running off the ball, and a number of our goals have come from his excellent movement. But all too often he gets into great positions and then nothing will come of it due to poor final passes or bad decision making. He often does the difficult thing and then messes up the easy part. I do believe in him though, and think he will improve.
posted on 30/9/24
comment by BlueJ2 (U4630)
posted 2 minutes ago
“ Nico Jackson drawing the keeper out and then laying it on a plate for Palmer for the first goal”
I actually think you’re giving waaaay too much credit to Jackson here. He was ahead of the defender but stumbled and miscontrolled the ball, and was fortunate that his mishit pass found Palmer. And he didn’t lay it “on a plate” either - it was a difficult finish that I doubt anyone else in the team would have scored from.
Jackson does great running off the ball, and a number of our goals have come from his excellent movement. But all too often he gets into great positions and then nothing will come of it due to poor final passes or bad decision making. He often does the difficult thing and then messes up the easy part. I do believe in him though, and think he will improve.
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That is exactly my take, word for word.
posted on 30/9/24
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
I do actually think Potter would have done a lot better with the more settled team we have now then the chaos he inherited, but he just lacked the personality for a top job imo.
-------------------------------------------------------
He definitely suffered being the guy after Tuchel. I think most of us could see the owners were making his job impossible, but it's really hard to get behind a good manager in the knowledge we ditched a great one for no good reason to get them.
It says a lot for me when despite looking at the results, I don't consider him even in the conversation of our worst managers I've seen.
posted on 30/9/24
His last game is quite telling too. Usually a managers last game (in a mid-season sacking) is a depressing affair where the team look apathetic and/or imbalanced beyond the point of no return. From memory his last game was Villa (H) where we actually peppered them but got caught losing 0-2.
Starting horribly & getting sacked in the midst of turning a corner just shows the problems had little to do with him.
posted on 30/9/24
And he didn’t lay it “on a plate” either - it was a difficult finish that I doubt anyone else in the team would have scored from.
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It wasn't remotely difficult. The goalkeeper wasn't even in goal when the ball comes to Palmer as Jackson had dragged the keeper completely out of position. So the goal mouth is empty apart from one defender who obviously can only do so much. It's a straightforward shot for any PL attacker to make.
posted on 1/10/24
Cole Palmer has been directly involved in more Premier League goals than any other player since the start of last season and now has more goal contributions (43) than PL appearances for Chelsea (39).
https://x.com/Squawka/status/1840142260798685298
Jackson
posted on 1/10/24
𝐈𝐛𝐫𝐚𝐡𝐢𝐦 𝐑𝐚𝐛𝐛𝐚𝐣 (𝟏𝟓) is another star in the making in Cobham
… and he was also called-up for the U16 English National Team
Ibrahim’s insane U16 Stats:
🏟️ 40 Games
▫️52 Goals
▫️60 Assists
▫️112 G+A
https://x.com/RisingStarXI/status/1838597903813628345/photo/2
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Got our own Messi. Hopefully he stays put. Already lost 2 highly rated youth players to City/Pool last summer.
posted on 1/10/24
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 9 hours, 52 minutes ago
As delighted as I am for Cole netting four does anyone else think that others in the team could have got a bit more credit for their parts in the goals? Nico Jackson drawing the keeper out and then laying it on a plate for Palmer for the first goal and Sancho's lovely through ball for Cole's fourth. Both very much team goals I thought with Fernandez and Sancho's intricate interplay resulting in the pen for the second goal.
No doubt that Palmer's beautiful freekick for the third goal was all on him though.
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Agree with you. Seems silly to suggest Jackson didn’t mean that pass.
posted on 1/10/24
Seems silly to suggest Jackson didn’t mean that pass.
I mean I think he meant it, but past actions could make it dubious lol
posted on 1/10/24
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 11 hours, 2 minutes ago
And he didn’t lay it “on a plate” either - it was a difficult finish that I doubt anyone else in the team would have scored from.
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It wasn't remotely difficult. The goalkeeper wasn't even in goal when the ball comes to Palmer as Jackson had dragged the keeper completely out of position. So the goal mouth is empty apart from one defender who obviously can only do so much. It's a straightforward shot for any PL attacker to make.
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wouldnt trust sterling, werner or havertz to score that though
posted on 1/10/24
🚨 Chelsea are amongst a host of top European clubs to have expressed an interest in centre back Vitor Reis. (@TheAthleticFC)
posted on 1/10/24
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 11 hours, 2 minutes ago
And he didn’t lay it “on a plate” either - it was a difficult finish that I doubt anyone else in the team would have scored from.
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It wasn't remotely difficult. The goalkeeper wasn't even in goal when the ball comes to Palmer as Jackson had dragged the keeper completely out of position. So the goal mouth is empty apart from one defender who obviously can only do so much. It's a straightforward shot for any PL attacker to make.
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wouldnt trust sterling, werner or havertz to score that though
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It's probably the sort of calamity that Timo might have made for us I'll give you that
posted on 1/10/24
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 4 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 9 hours, 52 minutes ago
As delighted as I am for Cole netting four does anyone else think that others in the team could have got a bit more credit for their parts in the goals? Nico Jackson drawing the keeper out and then laying it on a plate for Palmer for the first goal and Sancho's lovely through ball for Cole's fourth. Both very much team goals I thought with Fernandez and Sancho's intricate interplay resulting in the pen for the second goal.
No doubt that Palmer's beautiful freekick for the third goal was all on him though.
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Agree with you. Seems silly to suggest Jackson didn’t mean that pass.
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Yup, I'm at a loss as to why anyone would think that Jackson doesn't mean that pass. He's looking at Palmer as he's passing it to him. Not sure how clearer it could possibly be lol.
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