What Coisty said was wrong il agree there and I am sure he will regret doing that interview,
But these wee s...m bags these are the idiots that give our country a bad name, if they are caught they should be banged up and when they come out kicked out of Scotland
All this has done has brought more problems for Rangers
I agree with you, they are total sc*m.
But Jinky, Rangers had a representative at the meeting so they knew who these men were so why did Ally publicly state he didn't know?
It was a sinister comment.
Does nobody think that maybe, just maybe, the nutcases that do the sort of thing like threaten ordinary people because of football would maybe just do it anyway?
You know regardless of what an obviously emotional McCoist may or may not say?
Of course, had the media published / shown the full interview, things may have appeared a little different.
I do not blame McCoist.
I blame the people who did it.
Maybe the self righteous amongst the users here should look at themselves before castigating McCoist.
All he did was ask for "clarification"
Sound familiar?
http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/304755-rangers-boss-demands-names-following-scottish-fa-sanctions-which-could-kill-club/
"Who are these people? I want to know who these people are"
"In terms of our supporters, again they have received another kicking and we just feel it's time to start fighting back. You can guarantee we will be fighting back."
Sorry dc1, but you're just going what many fans do and going into defensive mode.
Personally never bought into the cheeky chappie nonsense, under Waldo he showed his true colours, once having to be hauled back into the dug-out and then his sneaky whispered weasel words, so I'm far from surprised about his call to arms..
Provoking and inciting Bears is easy and he knew exactly what he was doing.
I fully expect the Scottish press to go to town on him....
I like McCoist, always have. However, this was a severe error of judgement. It was clearly fuelled by high emotions and this is something that he will learn to manage as he gains more experience in the job.
McCoist is a disgrace. Can you imagine the uproar if Lennon would have asked such a question?
Bravis
People in England would have wondered why there was a mushroom shaped cloud hanging over Scotland!
Mccoist is just pandering to the gullible, same as he did with the cringe worthy line 'we don't do walking away'
Bravis, if I'm playing devils advocate then that statement can be equally levelled at Mr Lennon
WHERE DOES MCOIST SAY THREATEN THEM OR CAUSE GBH OR ANY OTHER VIOLENT OR ABBUSIVE TERMS.
Pandering to the gullible? Insinuating conspiracies despite his own players and management saying that this is not the case. Suggesting that decisions are personal? imagine that could be considered pandering to the gullible ones who are more than happy to listen and run with such stories.
Before this turns into something it isn't. I have, on the whole, grown to quite like Lennon this year. Just don't agree with this aspect of his actions
The dangers of the media and the fact that those involved in football are seen as some sort of cult leaders has only become more evident over the past few years.
For some reason, not ones I subscribe to, Mr Lennon is a hate figure amongst certain non Celtic fans, despite the fact that he is a man doing his job.
It is true that he could do his job in a more demure way, but his management method is to unite the Celtic fanbase behind him, and if any criticism is to be directed, he takes it, not the board, or the team. If this makes him into some sort of metaphorical martyr, then he has achieved his aim - a siege mentality- bringing the thunder back, this is just the beginning etc etc.
Now, Lennon had unprecedented activities surround him off the park - completely unforgiveable and which should be utterly condemned by all right minded people.
McCoist this year has had a somewhat bruising introduction to front line football management. He has made mistakes of course. But even in his wildest nightmares, I would suggest he had not expected the events of the past few months (just as Lennon did not expect nor deserve his).
I am not saying they are remotely similar. But they are both not what either signed up for as football managers.
McCoist gave an interview on Rangers TV using terms like "fighting back" - does that mean literally giving someone a kicking? Of course not. It is a colloquialism which is used in sport, life etc.
He asked to know the names of his accusers on behalf of the fans. If he personally already knew the names, which is probable, then he could not release them himself. That would have been wrong. What is wrong in asking that your accusers in such an unprecedented and controversial decision explain their actions in person, so we can all be sure, without doubt, that they were knowledgeable enough to make the decision and had no bias in either direction.
Could McCoist have perhaps chosen his words more carefully - yes. But hindsight is always 20/20 vision.
But those who seek to take his comments as some sort of rallying cry for nutcases to attack the SFA and their judicial panels are almost as bad as the completely reprehensible people actually doing the attacking.
The media love this sort of stuff - we should all remember that. We only ever see or hear what the media want us to - this goes for either side. The talking heads of the so called journos in this country with their varying agendas but unified lack of talent, do have a lot to answer for.
It is now obviously time for cooler heads on all sides.
But unfortunately, with nutcases around like those involved in threats against officials, refs, SFA, judicial panels, managers etc., cooler heads may be hard to find.
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Ally knew all along who the pleople were, he wanted the Rangers support to know.
Why?
I would never condone threatening anyone over a football matter - it is after all just a game.
But come on, the number of sactimonious hypocrites on this forum is astounding.
Normal rangers and celtic fans are well aware of the numpty element of their support, and to pretend otherwise is ridiculous.
I for one would like to know just how the identities of the panel became known along with personal contact details - who made this info public? A member of staff, a journo from some well-known rag? WHO?
And for those of you who still want to play the moral outrage card, can I recommend you a poem by Rabbie, called Holy Wullie's Prayer. It will show you that moral hypocracy has been around for a long long time - some people need to try evolving.
The names of judges and lawyers in serious criminal trials are publicly known so let's not get hysterical about someone asking for transparency over this.
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Rangers, along with every other Scottish club, voted in favour of keeping such panels anonymous.
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posted on 26/4/12
What Coisty said was wrong il agree there and I am sure he will regret doing that interview,
But these wee s...m bags these are the idiots that give our country a bad name, if they are caught they should be banged up and when they come out kicked out of Scotland
All this has done has brought more problems for Rangers
posted on 26/4/12
I agree with you, they are total sc*m.
But Jinky, Rangers had a representative at the meeting so they knew who these men were so why did Ally publicly state he didn't know?
It was a sinister comment.
posted on 26/4/12
Does nobody think that maybe, just maybe, the nutcases that do the sort of thing like threaten ordinary people because of football would maybe just do it anyway?
You know regardless of what an obviously emotional McCoist may or may not say?
Of course, had the media published / shown the full interview, things may have appeared a little different.
I do not blame McCoist.
I blame the people who did it.
Maybe the self righteous amongst the users here should look at themselves before castigating McCoist.
All he did was ask for "clarification"
Sound familiar?
posted on 26/4/12
http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/304755-rangers-boss-demands-names-following-scottish-fa-sanctions-which-could-kill-club/
"Who are these people? I want to know who these people are"
"In terms of our supporters, again they have received another kicking and we just feel it's time to start fighting back. You can guarantee we will be fighting back."
Sorry dc1, but you're just going what many fans do and going into defensive mode.
posted on 26/4/12
Personally never bought into the cheeky chappie nonsense, under Waldo he showed his true colours, once having to be hauled back into the dug-out and then his sneaky whispered weasel words, so I'm far from surprised about his call to arms..
Provoking and inciting Bears is easy and he knew exactly what he was doing.
I fully expect the Scottish press to go to town on him....
posted on 26/4/12
I like McCoist, always have. However, this was a severe error of judgement. It was clearly fuelled by high emotions and this is something that he will learn to manage as he gains more experience in the job.
posted on 26/4/12
McCoist is a disgrace. Can you imagine the uproar if Lennon would have asked such a question?
posted on 26/4/12
Bravis
People in England would have wondered why there was a mushroom shaped cloud hanging over Scotland!
posted on 26/4/12
Mccoist is just pandering to the gullible, same as he did with the cringe worthy line 'we don't do walking away'
posted on 26/4/12
Bravis, if I'm playing devils advocate then that statement can be equally levelled at Mr Lennon
posted on 26/4/12
Eh?
posted on 26/4/12
WHERE DOES MCOIST SAY THREATEN THEM OR CAUSE GBH OR ANY OTHER VIOLENT OR ABBUSIVE TERMS.
posted on 26/4/12
Pandering to the gullible? Insinuating conspiracies despite his own players and management saying that this is not the case. Suggesting that decisions are personal? imagine that could be considered pandering to the gullible ones who are more than happy to listen and run with such stories.
Before this turns into something it isn't. I have, on the whole, grown to quite like Lennon this year. Just don't agree with this aspect of his actions
posted on 26/4/12
Point taken arabian.
posted on 26/4/12
Nae bother mate
posted on 26/4/12
The dangers of the media and the fact that those involved in football are seen as some sort of cult leaders has only become more evident over the past few years.
For some reason, not ones I subscribe to, Mr Lennon is a hate figure amongst certain non Celtic fans, despite the fact that he is a man doing his job.
It is true that he could do his job in a more demure way, but his management method is to unite the Celtic fanbase behind him, and if any criticism is to be directed, he takes it, not the board, or the team. If this makes him into some sort of metaphorical martyr, then he has achieved his aim - a siege mentality- bringing the thunder back, this is just the beginning etc etc.
Now, Lennon had unprecedented activities surround him off the park - completely unforgiveable and which should be utterly condemned by all right minded people.
McCoist this year has had a somewhat bruising introduction to front line football management. He has made mistakes of course. But even in his wildest nightmares, I would suggest he had not expected the events of the past few months (just as Lennon did not expect nor deserve his).
I am not saying they are remotely similar. But they are both not what either signed up for as football managers.
McCoist gave an interview on Rangers TV using terms like "fighting back" - does that mean literally giving someone a kicking? Of course not. It is a colloquialism which is used in sport, life etc.
He asked to know the names of his accusers on behalf of the fans. If he personally already knew the names, which is probable, then he could not release them himself. That would have been wrong. What is wrong in asking that your accusers in such an unprecedented and controversial decision explain their actions in person, so we can all be sure, without doubt, that they were knowledgeable enough to make the decision and had no bias in either direction.
Could McCoist have perhaps chosen his words more carefully - yes. But hindsight is always 20/20 vision.
But those who seek to take his comments as some sort of rallying cry for nutcases to attack the SFA and their judicial panels are almost as bad as the completely reprehensible people actually doing the attacking.
The media love this sort of stuff - we should all remember that. We only ever see or hear what the media want us to - this goes for either side. The talking heads of the so called journos in this country with their varying agendas but unified lack of talent, do have a lot to answer for.
It is now obviously time for cooler heads on all sides.
But unfortunately, with nutcases around like those involved in threats against officials, refs, SFA, judicial panels, managers etc., cooler heads may be hard to find.
posted on 26/4/12
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posted on 26/4/12
Ally knew all along who the pleople were, he wanted the Rangers support to know.
Why?
posted on 26/4/12
I would never condone threatening anyone over a football matter - it is after all just a game.
But come on, the number of sactimonious hypocrites on this forum is astounding.
Normal rangers and celtic fans are well aware of the numpty element of their support, and to pretend otherwise is ridiculous.
I for one would like to know just how the identities of the panel became known along with personal contact details - who made this info public? A member of staff, a journo from some well-known rag? WHO?
And for those of you who still want to play the moral outrage card, can I recommend you a poem by Rabbie, called Holy Wullie's Prayer. It will show you that moral hypocracy has been around for a long long time - some people need to try evolving.
posted on 26/4/12
The names of judges and lawyers in serious criminal trials are publicly known so let's not get hysterical about someone asking for transparency over this.
posted on 26/4/12
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posted on 26/4/12
Rangers, along with every other Scottish club, voted in favour of keeping such panels anonymous.
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