In all fairness other than suarez I dont think arsenal would want any of the players you mentioned. Henderson is about as good as Lansbury.
My goodness you spend £35 million on a drunken Geordie lout and then follow this up with a £20 million move for Henderson,a player who makes Barton look like Xavi
I'm no Arsenal fan, but I know I'd much rather be in their shoes than Pool's
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Right for starters we have only lost clichy, who was at best an average defender, this is not something us arsenal fans have started saying since he left, we have been calling him this for past season or 2. So i wouldn't call just losing clichy as weakening our team, in terms of ability gibbs is pretty much the same as clichy.
We are yet to lose nasri and fabregas, so judge at the end of the window! you havent seen who wenger will bring in yet so to judge now is stupid of you.
Also i hardley see liverpool strengthing by buying henderson, carroll, downing.. They are simpley buying more average overrated english players that will never win you the league, if henderson, downing and carroll were french or polish for example, no one would mention them as top 4 players. I would say the same if arsenal bought them. the only player they bought who will strengthen their team is suarez
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Arsenal could lose Cesc, Vermaelen, Persie and Nasri and they would still be better than Liverpool.
Hornchurch Hammer - Blowing Bubbles In My Sleep (U6513)
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You are probably right, which is why they wont improve!! Wenger keeps buying the same players, Arsenal play the same game and get beat by the same teams..Barca, Utd, CFC etc.
The point here is they NEED a player like Carroll or a player who can mix it like Henderson. Yet Arsenal fans mock, its quite amusing from afar actually; i mean its like groundhog day when i watch Arsenal; nice footy, play welll, fade and end trophyless!!!
RVP is a quality player, but you need something different....sorry but Carroll, Suarez and Kuyt are more effective than Walcot, RVP or whoever else Arsenal have. We have pace, Power, Heading ability, hot short, hit long, hold up and physicallity...Arsenal have Pace and pretty triangles, you need more or has the last 6hyrs taught them nothing!!
Its too early in the transfer window... They might buy a Centre Back a couple of wingers and a striker and who knows.
P.S all the teams you mentioned Chelsea, Barca & Man Ure that they cant beat, they beat this season.
Also liverpool for the past few years have been spending a hell of a lot on players compared to arsenal, or strengthing as you call it. But still liverpool have failed to qualify finish above arsenal and failed to qualify for champions league on different occasions. Neither have they won a trophy since 2006 only a year after arsenal. And have been less competitive than arsenal in trophies since then. If liverpool had been more successful in competitions from their player strengthening, your argument would carry more weight. But they haven't so your argument is not valid really.
We can argue endlessly, however Liverpool are NOT happy with no trophies and ARE improving; Arsenal it seems are not concerned with winning so continue to meander and count top four as a success...as Wenger himself said, now i know which club is sriving for success and which isnt.
The season will tell us the truth. How about 2nd game of the season, Gerrard to Henderson to Downing to Carroll.....1-0!!!!
Be careful what you laugh at..
PS_Didnt this larger lout Carroll boss you lot last season by the way??? just thought id ask..
He Comes From Africa, He's Better Than Kaka
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I dont know what Arsenal have spent, but there is plenty of credible evidence that says Rafa spent on average £14M I(ish) per season at Liverpool when sales were taken into account.
Now 2 champs league finals, runner up in the league, fa cup win, league cup final and super cup win aint bad from 2005 to 2009!! After 2009...H&G were in charge and a sell to buy and the yanks nearly ruined us then the dark knight woy took over (H&G appointment) but ignore that eh!!!
As i said, Arsenal view top four as success; trophies not needed. Liverpool have slipped the last TWO seasons...cant deny that!!! but its not nonsense to see we were being ruined, now we are in a stable position and if other fans cant see whats happening, thats fine...because just ask Liverpool fans if they are happy, now ask Arsenal fans; the answer will tell you all you need to know about the 2 clubs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L85wbuePV8w
for once i agreewith liverpool fans. if arsenal don't sign someone soon, they are screwed.
Got_Better (U6241)
Arsenal it seems are not concerned with winning so continue to meander and count top four as a success..
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At this moment in time Liverpool can only dream of a top 4 spot.
If the only result for Liverpool this coming season is a top 4 finish, your manager and most Liverpool fans would class it as a successful season.
Downing is a decent player but I don't think he's worth 15million - just shows you the money that pool have now and the money thats floatign about that EPL.
We are not laughing at you for spending money. In fact, we are crying for not spending ourselves. However, it's the amount of money you are spending and on the quality of player it's going on that's the issue. Dalglish seems to be trying to recreate Liverpool's successful period in the 80s by building an all-English type team. Nothing wrong with that per se, but football has moved on since then, and you guys are paying over the odds.
N1 Man
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Its all relative, if Liverpool make top four and win a cup then the transfers will be worth it; if we make top four then its worth it, becasue you can bet that the next transfer window Liverpool will sign better players.
Downing, Carroll, Henderson,Adam. Lets look closer at these.
Downing, Villas best player and puts in great crosses, scores and gets assists...improve Liverpool? YES!
Carroll, One of Newcastles best players bullies oppenents and is a craking header of the ball...and he has a cracking shot on him...improve Liverpool? YES!
Henderson, young footballer with great potential real box to box playr with all round midfield play...improve Liverpool?? Maybe...but glad we have him. (listen to those that played with him and managed him).
Adam, Scores, passes, takes quality free kicks and i bet fits in Liverpool alongside Gerrard, Meireles, Suarez like a glove..pass and move, cant wait to sdee em in action.
So, i reckon they all improve Liverpool just becasue they aint called "hullio gonzalio" and come from S America dont make em bad....and they aint bad either!!! Proofs in the pudding, and thats a month away so lets wait and see eh, lets judge after they have kicked a ball for the reds!!
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posted on 6/7/11
In all fairness other than suarez I dont think arsenal would want any of the players you mentioned. Henderson is about as good as Lansbury.
posted on 6/7/11
My goodness you spend £35 million on a drunken Geordie lout and then follow this up with a £20 million move for Henderson,a player who makes Barton look like Xavi
I'm no Arsenal fan, but I know I'd much rather be in their shoes than Pool's
posted on 6/7/11
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posted on 6/7/11
Right for starters we have only lost clichy, who was at best an average defender, this is not something us arsenal fans have started saying since he left, we have been calling him this for past season or 2. So i wouldn't call just losing clichy as weakening our team, in terms of ability gibbs is pretty much the same as clichy.
We are yet to lose nasri and fabregas, so judge at the end of the window! you havent seen who wenger will bring in yet so to judge now is stupid of you.
Also i hardley see liverpool strengthing by buying henderson, carroll, downing.. They are simpley buying more average overrated english players that will never win you the league, if henderson, downing and carroll were french or polish for example, no one would mention them as top 4 players. I would say the same if arsenal bought them. the only player they bought who will strengthen their team is suarez
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posted on 6/7/11
Arsenal could lose Cesc, Vermaelen, Persie and Nasri and they would still be better than Liverpool.
posted on 6/7/11
Hornchurch Hammer - Blowing Bubbles In My Sleep (U6513)
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You are probably right, which is why they wont improve!! Wenger keeps buying the same players, Arsenal play the same game and get beat by the same teams..Barca, Utd, CFC etc.
The point here is they NEED a player like Carroll or a player who can mix it like Henderson. Yet Arsenal fans mock, its quite amusing from afar actually; i mean its like groundhog day when i watch Arsenal; nice footy, play welll, fade and end trophyless!!!
RVP is a quality player, but you need something different....sorry but Carroll, Suarez and Kuyt are more effective than Walcot, RVP or whoever else Arsenal have. We have pace, Power, Heading ability, hot short, hit long, hold up and physicallity...Arsenal have Pace and pretty triangles, you need more or has the last 6hyrs taught them nothing!!
posted on 6/7/11
Its too early in the transfer window... They might buy a Centre Back a couple of wingers and a striker and who knows.
posted on 6/7/11
P.S all the teams you mentioned Chelsea, Barca & Man Ure that they cant beat, they beat this season.
posted on 6/7/11
Also liverpool for the past few years have been spending a hell of a lot on players compared to arsenal, or strengthing as you call it. But still liverpool have failed to qualify finish above arsenal and failed to qualify for champions league on different occasions. Neither have they won a trophy since 2006 only a year after arsenal. And have been less competitive than arsenal in trophies since then. If liverpool had been more successful in competitions from their player strengthening, your argument would carry more weight. But they haven't so your argument is not valid really.
posted on 6/7/11
We can argue endlessly, however Liverpool are NOT happy with no trophies and ARE improving; Arsenal it seems are not concerned with winning so continue to meander and count top four as a success...as Wenger himself said, now i know which club is sriving for success and which isnt.
The season will tell us the truth. How about 2nd game of the season, Gerrard to Henderson to Downing to Carroll.....1-0!!!!
Be careful what you laugh at..
PS_Didnt this larger lout Carroll boss you lot last season by the way??? just thought id ask..
posted on 6/7/11
He Comes From Africa, He's Better Than Kaka
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I dont know what Arsenal have spent, but there is plenty of credible evidence that says Rafa spent on average £14M I(ish) per season at Liverpool when sales were taken into account.
Now 2 champs league finals, runner up in the league, fa cup win, league cup final and super cup win aint bad from 2005 to 2009!! After 2009...H&G were in charge and a sell to buy and the yanks nearly ruined us then the dark knight woy took over (H&G appointment) but ignore that eh!!!
As i said, Arsenal view top four as success; trophies not needed. Liverpool have slipped the last TWO seasons...cant deny that!!! but its not nonsense to see we were being ruined, now we are in a stable position and if other fans cant see whats happening, thats fine...because just ask Liverpool fans if they are happy, now ask Arsenal fans; the answer will tell you all you need to know about the 2 clubs.
posted on 6/7/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L85wbuePV8w
posted on 6/7/11
for once i agreewith liverpool fans. if arsenal don't sign someone soon, they are screwed.
posted on 6/7/11
Got_Better (U6241)
Arsenal it seems are not concerned with winning so continue to meander and count top four as a success..
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At this moment in time Liverpool can only dream of a top 4 spot.
If the only result for Liverpool this coming season is a top 4 finish, your manager and most Liverpool fans would class it as a successful season.
posted on 6/7/11
Downing is a decent player but I don't think he's worth 15million - just shows you the money that pool have now and the money thats floatign about that EPL.
posted on 6/7/11
We are not laughing at you for spending money. In fact, we are crying for not spending ourselves. However, it's the amount of money you are spending and on the quality of player it's going on that's the issue. Dalglish seems to be trying to recreate Liverpool's successful period in the 80s by building an all-English type team. Nothing wrong with that per se, but football has moved on since then, and you guys are paying over the odds.
posted on 6/7/11
N1 Man
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Its all relative, if Liverpool make top four and win a cup then the transfers will be worth it; if we make top four then its worth it, becasue you can bet that the next transfer window Liverpool will sign better players.
Downing, Carroll, Henderson,Adam. Lets look closer at these.
Downing, Villas best player and puts in great crosses, scores and gets assists...improve Liverpool? YES!
Carroll, One of Newcastles best players bullies oppenents and is a craking header of the ball...and he has a cracking shot on him...improve Liverpool? YES!
Henderson, young footballer with great potential real box to box playr with all round midfield play...improve Liverpool?? Maybe...but glad we have him. (listen to those that played with him and managed him).
Adam, Scores, passes, takes quality free kicks and i bet fits in Liverpool alongside Gerrard, Meireles, Suarez like a glove..pass and move, cant wait to sdee em in action.
So, i reckon they all improve Liverpool just becasue they aint called "hullio gonzalio" and come from S America dont make em bad....and they aint bad either!!! Proofs in the pudding, and thats a month away so lets wait and see eh, lets judge after they have kicked a ball for the reds!!
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