It's disappointing but it is true isn't it? Without owners in quickly and i mean within the next fortnight, then our season is going to be over before it has even begun.
I think he's out of order. That stuff about being used toning involved in big games. He had half a good season last year. I nearly always support our players but I think he's out of order.
I think he knows he's got offers to go elsewhere and he's just hanging on to see what happeneds. Let him go, no great loss.
Super billyD and Sutton, I agree wth both of you. Although it's true that players may feel uncertain about the situation, Chambers has gone the wrong way about it. He knows full well that the club are doing the best they can.
As for, 'I dont want to play for a club in a relegation battle', well Chambers, are you not one of the players that caused this mess? If we sign Pep then I think he should take the captaincy, if not then I reckon Lynch or Blackstock should take it.
I agree with you Colin, it just seems there is no loyalty at all involved in football clubs anymore. I hope even if he stays that he isn't given the captaincy, as I don't think he deserves it, i just think we should give it to Campy or Higginbottom if we somehow were able to buy him. At the end of it though, we seriously need new owners in and i mean quickly, as if we haven't got new owners in, i think by June, then the whole club could fall apart!
I say fair play to him. Our club treats the players terribly. It doesn't really show much faith in the players to let their contracts run to the last weeks. It's shameful. Also, these players hav watched the way the club's been run recently and must be massively frustrated, just as we are. Without change, why would they want to stay. I also think it's good that players like Blackstock and Chambers and speaking about it, might help to buck the club's ideas up.
We need a stopgap Centre Back whilst Barks is out
There's no loyalty in football these days, we all know that.
You have to admire the lad's honesty. There is no point sugaring the pill. Forest owe 75 million pounds and are currently losing 12 million pounds per year. The Doughty estate have said they are not going to call in the debt until the end of next season but have never said that any part of the current or future debt will be written off.
Any buyer would therefore need to make a sufficiently large offer to the Doughty estate to compensate them for the 75 million they otherwise stand to lose. The alternative for the Doughty estate is to force administration and take what they can from the remaining assets.
Doughty said before he died that he "couldn't give the club away" (these were his exact words), so the prospect of somebody paying tens of millions for a business which is currently losing 12 million a year is slim, shall we say. In the meanwhile Forest has to start somehow trying to reduce the amount it continues to lose, chiefly by reducing its wage bill. Any player out of contract is likely to be allowed to leave or offered a reduced salary. If the player is any good at all it is likely he will find a better deal elsewhere. Similarly any player still on an existing contract who has market value is likely to be sold, such as Gunter. The problem here is that all clubs are aware of Forest's parlous position and are very unlikely to pay top dollar. There is a similar situation now going on at Pompey where every first-team player is now likely to be sold.
On the positive side, it isn't raining just now.
We need a stopgap Centre Back whilst Barks is out
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Feel free to take him. Your already paying Tyson more than he's worth, take Chambers too.
It sounds like he's already decided to move on, unless we pay him more money. I would offer him another contract, but certainly not for as much money as he probably thinks he's worth. As for the relegation jibe, maybe you should have done YOUR job better eh, Luke?
Sell everyone and sign Guedioura. Sorted.
Like anything else you can sum it up as one big mess , contracts, finances and the way we treat players wonder if we have moved on from offering contracts through the post.
Would you work for a poor employer if you could chose.
The guys being honest and probably trying to force the issue
It depends I guess on how you measure success. If you measure it my money, then he's right, but if you measure it my integrity, then he's a c**t.
Not just about money though is it. What about being fairly treated by employers? Job satisfaction? Future prospects? At the minute - not many of those things are on offer at the City Ground.
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posted on 2/5/12
It's disappointing but it is true isn't it? Without owners in quickly and i mean within the next fortnight, then our season is going to be over before it has even begun.
posted on 2/5/12
I think he's out of order. That stuff about being used toning involved in big games. He had half a good season last year. I nearly always support our players but I think he's out of order.
I think he knows he's got offers to go elsewhere and he's just hanging on to see what happeneds. Let him go, no great loss.
posted on 2/5/12
Super billyD and Sutton, I agree wth both of you. Although it's true that players may feel uncertain about the situation, Chambers has gone the wrong way about it. He knows full well that the club are doing the best they can.
As for, 'I dont want to play for a club in a relegation battle', well Chambers, are you not one of the players that caused this mess? If we sign Pep then I think he should take the captaincy, if not then I reckon Lynch or Blackstock should take it.
posted on 2/5/12
I agree with you Colin, it just seems there is no loyalty at all involved in football clubs anymore. I hope even if he stays that he isn't given the captaincy, as I don't think he deserves it, i just think we should give it to Campy or Higginbottom if we somehow were able to buy him. At the end of it though, we seriously need new owners in and i mean quickly, as if we haven't got new owners in, i think by June, then the whole club could fall apart!
posted on 2/5/12
I say fair play to him. Our club treats the players terribly. It doesn't really show much faith in the players to let their contracts run to the last weeks. It's shameful. Also, these players hav watched the way the club's been run recently and must be massively frustrated, just as we are. Without change, why would they want to stay. I also think it's good that players like Blackstock and Chambers and speaking about it, might help to buck the club's ideas up.
posted on 2/5/12
We need a stopgap Centre Back whilst Barks is out
There's no loyalty in football these days, we all know that.
posted on 2/5/12
You have to admire the lad's honesty. There is no point sugaring the pill. Forest owe 75 million pounds and are currently losing 12 million pounds per year. The Doughty estate have said they are not going to call in the debt until the end of next season but have never said that any part of the current or future debt will be written off.
Any buyer would therefore need to make a sufficiently large offer to the Doughty estate to compensate them for the 75 million they otherwise stand to lose. The alternative for the Doughty estate is to force administration and take what they can from the remaining assets.
Doughty said before he died that he "couldn't give the club away" (these were his exact words), so the prospect of somebody paying tens of millions for a business which is currently losing 12 million a year is slim, shall we say. In the meanwhile Forest has to start somehow trying to reduce the amount it continues to lose, chiefly by reducing its wage bill. Any player out of contract is likely to be allowed to leave or offered a reduced salary. If the player is any good at all it is likely he will find a better deal elsewhere. Similarly any player still on an existing contract who has market value is likely to be sold, such as Gunter. The problem here is that all clubs are aware of Forest's parlous position and are very unlikely to pay top dollar. There is a similar situation now going on at Pompey where every first-team player is now likely to be sold.
On the positive side, it isn't raining just now.
posted on 2/5/12
We need a stopgap Centre Back whilst Barks is out
________
Feel free to take him. Your already paying Tyson more than he's worth, take Chambers too.
posted on 2/5/12
It sounds like he's already decided to move on, unless we pay him more money. I would offer him another contract, but certainly not for as much money as he probably thinks he's worth. As for the relegation jibe, maybe you should have done YOUR job better eh, Luke?
posted on 2/5/12
Sell everyone and sign Guedioura. Sorted.
posted on 2/5/12
Like anything else you can sum it up as one big mess , contracts, finances and the way we treat players wonder if we have moved on from offering contracts through the post.
Would you work for a poor employer if you could chose.
The guys being honest and probably trying to force the issue
posted on 2/5/12
It depends I guess on how you measure success. If you measure it my money, then he's right, but if you measure it my integrity, then he's a c**t.
posted on 2/5/12
Not just about money though is it. What about being fairly treated by employers? Job satisfaction? Future prospects? At the minute - not many of those things are on offer at the City Ground.
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