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David Murray F... the Sir!

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posted on 12/5/12

What a shambles

posted on 12/5/12

Now perhaps people will acknowledge the pointless march to Hampden and that the TRUE culprit is SDM!

Craig Whyte - chancer
SDM - 100% to blame!

Legacy my erse!

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 12/5/12

Minty Moonbeam ran Rangers into the ground to buy the love.
Like the fat kid in the playground he was only liked if he was supplying the Kola cubes...

comment by Gowteam (U7997)

posted on 12/5/12

I dont get it. Why blame SDM.
You loved sitting back and letting the good times roll under him, now you want his head???

Nobody say anything back then?? No??

Its no a dig I just dont think you have any right to moan.

posted on 12/5/12

You didn't mind him when he was buying you tainted title after tainted title did you?

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 12/5/12

"And when chief operating officer Martin Bain showed Murray a detective’s worrying report on Whyte, the Rangers owner said he had little option but to sell – and urged Bain to convince the board to BACK the sale.
The private investigators hired by the Rangers’ Independent Board Committee found Whyte was involved with numerous companies which were soon wound up owing thousands of pounds in unpaid taxes.
And they could find no evidence of Whyte’s supposed personal wealth."

I hate to quote The Comic but if that's true then 10 Charlotte square should be put under siege.
He's walked away from the car crash that is Rangers unscathed. He milked the glory of Rangers to further his own reputation then cast them aside like a jizzy hankey once he was spent...

"Ahm done here...Moving on...Ah yes...Green grapes, much more interesting..."



posted on 12/5/12

Despite what the bhoys claim, a lot of Gers fans have been criticising Murray for years.

As well as him, you also have to wonder about the role of the bank in pushing the sale through and wonder what checks they did including about how Whyte got the money he had put in his lawyers' account.

posted on 12/5/12

Hector spot on mate

posted on 12/5/12

Why does Lloyds keep getting dragged into this. Who Murray sold to is nothing to do with them. A spokesman for Lloyds in one of the DR articles above states the sale was between Murray and Whyte end off more less.
Am I missing something here where a lender has the right or obligation to dictate how a customer conducts their business.

posted on 12/5/12

comment by Gowteam (U7997)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
I dont get it. Why blame SDM.
You loved sitting back and letting the good times roll under him, now you want his head???

Nobody say anything back then?? No??

Its no a dig I just dont think you have any right to moan.

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Nobody said anything back then because we had no idea.

No one did, not even Murray. We also didn't know anything about Whyte.

So your point is a stupid one.

posted on 12/5/12

"Why does Lloyds keep getting dragged into this. "

Well, for a start, they took a payment of £18 million from Whyte....

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 12/5/12

Nobody said anything back then because we had no idea.
..............

"No idea"...

Aye, perfectly normal set of circumstances to have still in their pomp world and european cup winners plying their trade in little old Scotland...

posted on 12/5/12

Hector

Murray and co obviously had no idea that the EBTs would come back to haunt them at the time. So how were the fans meant to know.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 12/5/12

They didn't know paying wages with a scheme meant for 1-off loans would come back to bite them?...Really?

http://www2.hiren.info/desktopwallpapers/thumb/hear-no-evil_see-no-evil_speak-no-evil.jpg

posted on 12/5/12

Hector if it was that simple the courts would have sorted it.

The idea that Murray went with EBTs in order to save money at the time but that would mean a £100m bill in future is ridiculous. He was obviously trying to find a good buyer to take the club on till he realised how bad the situation was and flogged the club off to whoever to get it off his hands.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 12/5/12

He took advice, he knew the risks, even the guy that invented EBT's say's "wtf was he thinking?"

Minty knew better..

You reap what you sow.

posted on 12/5/12

Every other club in the SPL looked at the EBT's and were advised to stay well clear of them. Far to risky.
Somehow rangers were advised that the were fine...... no risk at all.....no probs amigo. aye right

comment by 12In13 (U9258)

posted on 12/5/12

My father told me about 15 years ago that Murray would bankrupt the Gers.

posted on 12/5/12

Nobody said anything back then because we had no idea.

No one did, not even Murray. We also didn't know anything about Whyte.

So your point is a stupid one.
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You had no idea about the use of EBT's we can accept that. But Rangers were posting losses of something like £80million, surely when you seen that, you must have thought to question the way he was running the club? In addition to Hugh Adam's warning in 2002.

posted on 12/5/12

With regards to questioning the way its run? Did anyone question the Labour government? and if so did they listen? The irish,spanish, greek governement? The celtic board prior to the last few weeks?

This idea that Rangers fans couldve.shouldve/wouldve influenced Murray is nonsense! The banks were happy to lend to him during the economic boom as MIM were making money (on paper) look deeper and MIM returns are horrendous on a cash flow/return on stock basis.

posted on 12/5/12

They had a tax bill in 2010 which, I've they'd paid it would've avoided this mess. But Johnston and co. decided to buy Jelavic and others instead. 'But it's all Craig Whyte's fault!'

posted on 13/5/12

comment by Blue Heaven (U8293)


posted 18 hours, 45 minutes ago

"Why does Lloyds keep getting dragged into this. "

Well, for a start, they took a payment of £18 million from Whyte....


So whats wrong with a bank being paid back what it is owed

comment by DC (U8199)

posted on 13/5/12



try again in an hour or two,u man,everycants gaun tae there scratcher

posted on 13/5/12

A know bunch of lazy bassas

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