I think that Chelsea fans are quite humble in general.
When we won the Double in 2010 we were all very humble about it. I didn´t hear any Chelsea fans being arrogant about it.
It seems that there are a lot of opposition fans living in fear that Chelsea fans will rub it in their faces if we win the Champions League.
Personally I think that what it really boils down to is that if Chelsea do win the CL then opposition fans and wums would no longer be able to use the "yeah but you´ve never won the Champions League" line against us which we hear on an almost daily basis.
I think that thought must terrify the wums.
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Appreciate your sentiments OP and sady I don't doubt there are some may be a little in the face of others when we get a bit of success, all teams have them.
My attitude is leave my team alone and I won't bother yours.
Ken bates once said, "Be humble in victory, be arrogant in defeat", something I agree with entirely.
Superb, if you put 100 Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs fans in a room, you will find the same ratio of humble people in each group. It is easy to form a view about a group of fans from half a dozen wums, but we are all basically the same.
Why would you want to be arrogant in defeat...
That's the last thing you should be...
Why would you not?
It shows fight, spirit and desire, being arrogant in victory is just ugly.
An Agincourt, Dunkirk, Waterloo type spirit if you like.
JF
in victory - I agree - I'd need to disagree about defeat though, you have no right to be arrogant in either
Magnanimous yes - arrogant... not for me mate...
Don't take it too literally Sheriff, I don't run around the block shouting my head off when we lose
Bit of Bravado & swagger - yeah possibly
Mind you - we are talking about Ken Bates here....
Al Murray - where would we be without rules..?
France
The phrase to err is human doesn't mean I go around making mistakes at every occasion to reassure myself that I am not a machine.
Exatly Sherriff, bravado, swagger to some, arrogance to others.
I generally sulk when we lose..
i always believe in "fronting it" if we lose, not so much as being arrogant more defiant if anything.
So I will not be hiding away should Munich win on Sat. I will take whatever abuse is going and reply in my usual partizan manner
Nothing could hurt more than losing like we did in Moscow so if we should lose in Munich then I´ll be much more able to deal with it.
comment by Purp (U5966)
posted 22 minutes ago
i always believe in "fronting it" if we lose, not so much as being arrogant more defiant if anything.
So I will not be hiding away should Munich win on Sat. I will take whatever abuse is going and reply in my usual partizan manner
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Same as and I think that is exactly what Bates meant, at least that is how I have always seen it.
JF
Yeah maybe he did...but as I said - he's a generally unpleasant disagreeable curmugeon at best
Re Saturday, i'
m going to be utterly gutted if we lose, but still nothing has come near the 2008 defeat...that pained me then & it pains me now
I must've drunk about 20 bottles of beer watching that - it never touched me
I must've drunk about 20 bottles of beer watching that - it never touched me
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I bet it didn´t. Suprised you didn´t keel over with alchohol poisoning.
I was just too bereft with rage & pain for it to have any effect
Sherriff, I was in Moscow, I had drunk loads of beer and vodka, all brewed on the site of the pub we were drinking in, that just happened to be the hoe of the Moscow blues. I was gutted we lost but not devastated, even though we lost I would rate it right up there as one of the most amazing experiences you can have at a football match, to be at the CL final that everyone wants to be at and is watched around the globe is something that can only be bettered by actually winning it.
On Saturday I have a ticket and will be there again and hope to go one better.
Day trip to Moscow cost me about 8 to 900 pounds. I reckon my threeday trip to Munich will total £700 tops (both including beer money).
JF
I hope it's money well spent...however it goes, I'm sure it will be..
Had 21st birthday at Munich beer festrival (lucky - happened to be on football trip) great place
I know, I have been there a few times. Went to the Chelsea game when we lost but we had already won the group, that was at their old Olympic stadium, great trip. We said it would be great to go back and play them in their new stadium which was opening the following season, never thought we would have to wait this long or that it would be a final, funny old game ain't it.
Song 17
A lot of it depends on whether there has been opposition fans arrogantly predicting our downfall. Obviously as an Arsenal fan, I recognise that you would prefer that we are not successful on Saturday, as you would like to be the first London team, that wins the Champions League and there's nothing wrong with that. The Arsenal fans on 606 have by and large been quite gracious about our run to the final, so if we were fortunate enough to win it, I would like to think that Chelsea fans will not indulge in gratuitous gloating on the Arsenal board, I know I won't.
However the other lot in North London have given it such a large and bitter one, with every round that we got through, that if we do it (which let's face it is not going to be easy) they will have earned all the stick that they will inevitably get.
Basically it's a case of if you don't want to receive it back then don't dish it out in the first place
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posted on 14/5/12
I think that Chelsea fans are quite humble in general.
When we won the Double in 2010 we were all very humble about it. I didn´t hear any Chelsea fans being arrogant about it.
It seems that there are a lot of opposition fans living in fear that Chelsea fans will rub it in their faces if we win the Champions League.
Personally I think that what it really boils down to is that if Chelsea do win the CL then opposition fans and wums would no longer be able to use the "yeah but you´ve never won the Champions League" line against us which we hear on an almost daily basis.
I think that thought must terrify the wums.
posted on 14/5/12
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posted on 14/5/12
Appreciate your sentiments OP and sady I don't doubt there are some may be a little in the face of others when we get a bit of success, all teams have them.
My attitude is leave my team alone and I won't bother yours.
Ken bates once said, "Be humble in victory, be arrogant in defeat", something I agree with entirely.
posted on 14/5/12
Superb, if you put 100 Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs fans in a room, you will find the same ratio of humble people in each group. It is easy to form a view about a group of fans from half a dozen wums, but we are all basically the same.
posted on 14/5/12
Why would you want to be arrogant in defeat...
That's the last thing you should be...
posted on 14/5/12
Why would you not?
It shows fight, spirit and desire, being arrogant in victory is just ugly.
posted on 14/5/12
An Agincourt, Dunkirk, Waterloo type spirit if you like.
posted on 14/5/12
JF
in victory - I agree - I'd need to disagree about defeat though, you have no right to be arrogant in either
Magnanimous yes - arrogant... not for me mate...
posted on 14/5/12
Don't take it too literally Sheriff, I don't run around the block shouting my head off when we lose
posted on 14/5/12
Bit of Bravado & swagger - yeah possibly
Mind you - we are talking about Ken Bates here....
Al Murray - where would we be without rules..?
France
posted on 14/5/12
The phrase to err is human doesn't mean I go around making mistakes at every occasion to reassure myself that I am not a machine.
posted on 14/5/12
Exatly Sherriff, bravado, swagger to some, arrogance to others.
posted on 14/5/12
I generally sulk when we lose..
posted on 14/5/12
i always believe in "fronting it" if we lose, not so much as being arrogant more defiant if anything.
So I will not be hiding away should Munich win on Sat. I will take whatever abuse is going and reply in my usual partizan manner
posted on 14/5/12
Nothing could hurt more than losing like we did in Moscow so if we should lose in Munich then I´ll be much more able to deal with it.
posted on 14/5/12
comment by Purp (U5966)
posted 22 minutes ago
i always believe in "fronting it" if we lose, not so much as being arrogant more defiant if anything.
So I will not be hiding away should Munich win on Sat. I will take whatever abuse is going and reply in my usual partizan manner
-------------------------------------------------------
Same as and I think that is exactly what Bates meant, at least that is how I have always seen it.
posted on 14/5/12
JF
Yeah maybe he did...but as I said - he's a generally unpleasant disagreeable curmugeon at best
Re Saturday, i'
m going to be utterly gutted if we lose, but still nothing has come near the 2008 defeat...that pained me then & it pains me now
I must've drunk about 20 bottles of beer watching that - it never touched me
posted on 14/5/12
I must've drunk about 20 bottles of beer watching that - it never touched me
-------------------------------------------------
I bet it didn´t. Suprised you didn´t keel over with alchohol poisoning.
posted on 14/5/12
I was just too bereft with rage & pain for it to have any effect
posted on 14/5/12
Sherriff, I was in Moscow, I had drunk loads of beer and vodka, all brewed on the site of the pub we were drinking in, that just happened to be the hoe of the Moscow blues. I was gutted we lost but not devastated, even though we lost I would rate it right up there as one of the most amazing experiences you can have at a football match, to be at the CL final that everyone wants to be at and is watched around the globe is something that can only be bettered by actually winning it.
On Saturday I have a ticket and will be there again and hope to go one better.
Day trip to Moscow cost me about 8 to 900 pounds. I reckon my threeday trip to Munich will total £700 tops (both including beer money).
posted on 14/5/12
JF
I hope it's money well spent...however it goes, I'm sure it will be..
Had 21st birthday at Munich beer festrival (lucky - happened to be on football trip) great place
posted on 14/5/12
I know, I have been there a few times. Went to the Chelsea game when we lost but we had already won the group, that was at their old Olympic stadium, great trip. We said it would be great to go back and play them in their new stadium which was opening the following season, never thought we would have to wait this long or that it would be a final, funny old game ain't it.
posted on 14/5/12
Oh aye...It's that..
posted on 14/5/12
Song 17
A lot of it depends on whether there has been opposition fans arrogantly predicting our downfall. Obviously as an Arsenal fan, I recognise that you would prefer that we are not successful on Saturday, as you would like to be the first London team, that wins the Champions League and there's nothing wrong with that. The Arsenal fans on 606 have by and large been quite gracious about our run to the final, so if we were fortunate enough to win it, I would like to think that Chelsea fans will not indulge in gratuitous gloating on the Arsenal board, I know I won't.
However the other lot in North London have given it such a large and bitter one, with every round that we got through, that if we do it (which let's face it is not going to be easy) they will have earned all the stick that they will inevitably get.
Basically it's a case of if you don't want to receive it back then don't dish it out in the first place
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