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So what happens if say 6 clubs go down the City route. What happens to the Sheik whose club finishes 6th ?
I am not sure all fans want their clubs run in that way. Certainly a number of Arsenal fans were not happy at the thought of Usmanov doing an Abramovich at the Emirates.
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comment by Sir Thomas Of Towton - Wick Voted Best Board (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
There has always been player inflation.Now it matters?
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Tom
Think of why Leeds are where they are now, and you may have a clue as to what this is about.
Fair enough, I get that you hate United, but it is because of living beyond your clubs means that Leeds went into administration.
There you go, Thomas, if you comment enough someone will reply eventually
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It is all my fault. Sorry guys.
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"City are expected to overtake Liverpool in the football rich list the next time the figures are realised so I'd say that financially we're heading in the right direction."
You've worked hard for it, Boris. Well done mate.
We have, the rich list is made up by revenue, not investment by the owner or in United's case, how much the owner has sucked out.
comment by Sir Thomas Of Towton - Wick Voted Best Board (U11544)
posted 42 seconds ago
Think this has been done before.Leeds didn't have money they borrowed it.
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It doesn't make any difference where the money come from. If you could have paid it back, you wouldn't have gone into administration.
That is the point in the FFP rules.
If the City owner, or the Chelsea owner just decided to pack up an leave, and take all their money with them, what do you think will happen to Chelsea and City?
"We have, the rich list is made up by revenue, not investment by the owner or in United's case, how much the owner has sucked out."
Like I said, you've worked hard for it, well done
f the City owner, or the Chelsea owner just decided to pack up an leave, and take all their money with them, what do you think will happen to Chelsea and City?
City's owners have already pledged the money committed in wages for the next 5 years. The committment is written in stone no matter what their plans are and the chances of them packing it up seem somewhat slim at the moment.
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Like I said, you've worked hard for it, well done
Thanks, next up we have to target the developing nations. Tough shout as that's staunch United territory.
To be fair VC, they can't and won't just pack up and leave.
I get the point you are making though. From our perspective, give it time!
The situation at Leeds and Portsmouth was exactly what FFP was initially brought in to stop - clubs spending money that they simply didn't have. That is why spending on infrastructure is still allowed - to still encourage investment.
Personally, I can't understand the point whatsoever in the Fit and Proper persons test...
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
To be fair VC, they can't and won't just pack up and leave.
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I know, but at least you got the point. Even Binky did, which is something to behold.
The fact is the Premier League is a worldwide success in terms of poularity and media exposure. UEFA don't want us to be all powerful and this is just an attempt to deter new potential investors. If they were queing up to buy Serie A or Bundersliga teams the FFP rules would never have been considered.
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"Thanks, next up we have to target the developing nations."
Um, they'll all have to move to Manchester once they start following you though won't they?
Meh, leave them to live in abject pverty and target the aid money.
UEFA don't want us to be all powerful and this is just an attempt to deter new potential investors.
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Binky, it isn't City UEFA are particularly trying to stop here.
IMO they are against PL teams dominating the CL, and have seen City and Chelsea as a huge threat to that because of the amount of money both teams could spend.
They never had a problem with Real Madrid being given money by the Spanish Goverment, or Barcelona being subsidised by the banks ten years ago.
The scousers will never switch to city. Nice plan though.
Vidicschin, that's tied in with what I'm saying. English teams repeatedly winning the CL will raise the Prems stock even further.
VC where have I posted that fergie was being unethical?
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So, he isn't being unethical? Make your mind up.
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Did I say he was being unethical? I said his comments were ill advised.
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posted on 15/5/12
So what happens if say 6 clubs go down the City route. What happens to the Sheik whose club finishes 6th ?
I am not sure all fans want their clubs run in that way. Certainly a number of Arsenal fans were not happy at the thought of Usmanov doing an Abramovich at the Emirates.
posted on 15/5/12
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posted on 15/5/12
comment by Sir Thomas Of Towton - Wick Voted Best Board (U11544)
posted 6 minutes ago
There has always been player inflation.Now it matters?
..............
Tom
Think of why Leeds are where they are now, and you may have a clue as to what this is about.
Fair enough, I get that you hate United, but it is because of living beyond your clubs means that Leeds went into administration.
posted on 15/5/12
There you go, Thomas, if you comment enough someone will reply eventually
posted on 15/5/12
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posted on 15/5/12
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posted on 15/5/12
It is all my fault. Sorry guys.
posted on 15/5/12
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posted on 15/5/12
"City are expected to overtake Liverpool in the football rich list the next time the figures are realised so I'd say that financially we're heading in the right direction."
You've worked hard for it, Boris. Well done mate.
We have, the rich list is made up by revenue, not investment by the owner or in United's case, how much the owner has sucked out.
posted on 15/5/12
comment by Sir Thomas Of Towton - Wick Voted Best Board (U11544)
posted 42 seconds ago
Think this has been done before.Leeds didn't have money they borrowed it.
................
It doesn't make any difference where the money come from. If you could have paid it back, you wouldn't have gone into administration.
That is the point in the FFP rules.
If the City owner, or the Chelsea owner just decided to pack up an leave, and take all their money with them, what do you think will happen to Chelsea and City?
posted on 15/5/12
"We have, the rich list is made up by revenue, not investment by the owner or in United's case, how much the owner has sucked out."
Like I said, you've worked hard for it, well done
posted on 15/5/12
f the City owner, or the Chelsea owner just decided to pack up an leave, and take all their money with them, what do you think will happen to Chelsea and City?
City's owners have already pledged the money committed in wages for the next 5 years. The committment is written in stone no matter what their plans are and the chances of them packing it up seem somewhat slim at the moment.
posted on 15/5/12
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posted on 15/5/12
Like I said, you've worked hard for it, well done
Thanks, next up we have to target the developing nations. Tough shout as that's staunch United territory.
posted on 15/5/12
To be fair VC, they can't and won't just pack up and leave.
I get the point you are making though. From our perspective, give it time!
The situation at Leeds and Portsmouth was exactly what FFP was initially brought in to stop - clubs spending money that they simply didn't have. That is why spending on infrastructure is still allowed - to still encourage investment.
Personally, I can't understand the point whatsoever in the Fit and Proper persons test...
posted on 15/5/12
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
To be fair VC, they can't and won't just pack up and leave.
..............
I know, but at least you got the point. Even Binky did, which is something to behold.
posted on 15/5/12
The fact is the Premier League is a worldwide success in terms of poularity and media exposure. UEFA don't want us to be all powerful and this is just an attempt to deter new potential investors. If they were queing up to buy Serie A or Bundersliga teams the FFP rules would never have been considered.
posted on 15/5/12
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posted on 15/5/12
"Thanks, next up we have to target the developing nations."
Um, they'll all have to move to Manchester once they start following you though won't they?
posted on 15/5/12
Meh, leave them to live in abject pverty and target the aid money.
posted on 15/5/12
UEFA don't want us to be all powerful and this is just an attempt to deter new potential investors.
......................
Binky, it isn't City UEFA are particularly trying to stop here.
IMO they are against PL teams dominating the CL, and have seen City and Chelsea as a huge threat to that because of the amount of money both teams could spend.
They never had a problem with Real Madrid being given money by the Spanish Goverment, or Barcelona being subsidised by the banks ten years ago.
posted on 15/5/12
The scousers will never switch to city. Nice plan though.
posted on 15/5/12
Vidicschin, that's tied in with what I'm saying. English teams repeatedly winning the CL will raise the Prems stock even further.
posted on 15/5/12
VC where have I posted that fergie was being unethical?
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So, he isn't being unethical? Make your mind up.
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Did I say he was being unethical? I said his comments were ill advised.
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