meu scotland will certainly not get out that group, but saldy with levein we will get the wooden spoon!

I'm not talking %. nor suicide (!?).I'm talking qualification and improvement. Sweden, Denmark etc regularly qualify. Belgium, Norway etc improve slowly but surely...we don't. We go backwards, how many of the players from last night would have got into a Scotland team from the 70's ? None ! That is not progress.

Thats all nostalgic, was Hansen really better than a Danny Wilson or Dalgilsh than Rhodes?

The sides of 70's all failed miserably too, we still produce the same caliber of player but we have tried to change the mentality of them too much

Marky...I agree. As I say I watched Macedonia, couldn't tell you the name of 1 player but coached by Toshack they were set up tp spoil and spoil they did....... 0-0. portugal has Ronaldo, Nani, Moutinho Miereles etc etc aand couldn't break them down

It's not nostalgic...it's fact. In answer to your questions Yes and Yes, how can you compare Dalglish to Rhodes ?? Rhodes has done nothing, Dalglish didn't evolve til the 80s but was one of the top players in the world.Wilson is another who can't even get a game for a poor Liverpool side

The Scandics and Balkans produce steady journeymen + 1 or 2 above average players a generation.

They are organized and passionate and they carry their countrys hopes with them. We are forever negative.
Negative about our players
Negative about our Clubs
Negative about our League

Fail to prepare, prepare for failure.

For negative read realistic. Don't read me wrong , I would love Scotland to do well but words like underdog, blood and snotters, rough em up etc don't cut it now, I'm afraid.

I blame the Daily Rag Hector they have brainwashed us into thinking we are pash and Levein so that is why we play 6-4-0!

And we are not, we are Scotland! get it up yees ya DOBBERS!

But it's who we are coop.

meu is Craig Levein!

Dalglish didn't evolve til the 80s but was one of the top players in the world
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Convenient date, some time after he left Celtic of course. Kenny was a top, top player long that--not that dross such as Greig and Forsyth and the rest that you had in your sides in the 70s offered much of a challenge for him

I dont like Levein any more than you do but dont blame him for the poor standard of player he has to choose from.
Hampden....we were having a serious non club discussion .....til you chipped in with your daft comment,we were dicussing Scotland and therefore international football.Dalglish didn't play in 1974 and was in the '78 squad by which time he was with liverpool.

Brother Young. dont go outside in the sun, it will fry your brain (what's left o' it) to a cinder. Keep you noggin under the sand. I know it's a bit crowded under under there, none the less keep it covered!

Rhodes is now in the Championship and will move to either Everton or Fulham

Fletcherhas said he DOES want to play. But Levein is a phanny and has taken the huff. You need managers to rise above this pash and try to build bridges. Not destroy them.

What struck me last nigt was the complete lack of energy, care, passion (as well as ability).

If you're gonna flood your team with anglo-scots, with no really affiliation to the team...where's the pride in playing for the jersey...that was all too obvious for the Amercians playing fortheir national side.

We simply gave up. Levein is a phanny. Completely out of his depth.

We are destined to finish bottom of our group with that eejit in charge.

Charlie Mulgrew was shown up for what he really is. An absolute donkey. Probably the worst player on the field last night.. although a few were going for that mantle. In the end it was just down to 2... him and Broony. It was no competition in the end. Mulgrew won hands down. He should never wear a Scotland top again. (Unless it is to play fives down at 'Pitches'.)

Ishy and his wee insightful pearls of wisdom.

Hector.,.. is there a part of that you would disagree with?

I didn't see the game, but McGregor let in 5...5...goals...what a joke.

The 5 goals were eff all to do with McGregor Hector. As u said u didn't see the game. So u ate in no position to make such comments

The facts speak for themselves tooshy, Gordon wouldn't have conceded 5.

Hector, I can honestly say the goalie is only as goos as his defence!

Mcregor is better than Gordon!

"The facts speak for themselves tooshy, Gordon wouldn't have conceded 5."

Mibbes aya mibbes naw


Big Al is prone to a howler, Gordon is made of china

Gordon would conceded10. The facts are we got humped.

But the biggest fact is you didn't watch it yet can somehow single out one player for blame. Whit a plank