I fell asleep after lap 20, been ill all weekend. What happened please?
Surely this is classed as a spam article, i've read it before, a few times actually.
When will the admins ban this fool!!!
hamilton seems to be starting to believe it himself based on that interview.
he is getting a dangerously negative mindset and needs to sort himself out.
i've read it before, a few times actually.
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Because it happens every race!
Button looked hopeless against a Caterham, goodness what in the name is going on at Mclaren!
For the last fifty years actually, i cant stand new age F1 fans who dont have a clue.
Can somebody please give me an overview?
Just watched Lewis' interview. Sounded like he's given up.
cant stand new age F1 fans who dont have a clue
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Yet they are always right!
pseudo experts say all is well at Mclaren, yet results and performances don't reflect that!
Can somebody please give me an overview?
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SouthL just think of the usual nonsense that Mclaren strategists and pitcrew get up to then you'll have the whole picture!
Slow pit stops? Tactical errors? And something so stupid it makes you laugh?
there was no team problem at all with hamilton. he just didnt win. pit stops were fine, stratgey was same as everyone else's. he got left on the start and lost a couple of places and then wasnt as quick as alonso at the end of the first stint so got passed. just a parade after that. looked like his tyres were going off at the end but he hung on for 5th.
pit stops were fine
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Goodness here we go again, 4.6 sec Mc pitstop compared to 3.3s Ferrari you consider this fine!
I said it before and I will say it again Kovalainen is way better than Button!
The list below shows the total pit time throughout the race.
McLAren do not look good do they.
Driver Team Time
Nico Rosberg Mercedes 24.874
Felipe Massa Ferrari 24.993
Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 25.079
Michael Schumacher Mercedes 25.117
Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 25.219
Fernando Alonso Ferrari 25.220
Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 25.335
Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 25.566
Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 25.567
Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 25.642
Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 25.666
Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 25.748
Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 26.063
Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 26.066
Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 26.157
Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 26.380
Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 26.410
Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 26.447
Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 26.973
Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 27.186
Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 27.306
Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 28.390
Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 31.293
Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 36.503
Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 39.391
McLAren do not look good do they
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They only look decent for Button!
what do those times represent ? everyone 2 stopped didnt they ? so what does the 12-13 second period represent ? it's too quick for time spent in the pit lane isnt it ?
whatever the figures represent, they dont strike me as having determined the result of the race, not least because the order is nothing like the order of race finishers. if hamilton is really the best driver that has ever lived, he should be capable of making up 0.2 seconds over the course of the race.
The times represent the time lost in having to slow down for pit entry, the time of the pit stop and the time to exit the pit lane.
The drivers only stopped once for tyres and McLaren were the 4th fastest team after Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull.
The pit stops did not impact on the race result but Hamilton felt that he was hampered by a poor setting on his launch control system and unhappy that the team did not keep him posted about his gap behind Vettel.
The team should have told him about how many seconds Vettel had in his pocket. Hamilton would then have taken the risk to close up in order to prevent Vettel coming out ahead of him.
People don't you all just get tired of making the same excuses for Mclaren, week-in week-out the same BS is happening, lack of communication, pitstops, strategy, lack of pace etc.
Whats for sure is Hamilton needs to leave Mclaren, clearly they have a lot of issues to sort out!
Ever since Button arrived at Mclaren nothing but calamity has befallen Mclaren, they went from a decent team to complete ameteurs!
The drivers only stopped once for tyres and McLaren were the 4th fastest team after Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull.
The pit stops did not impact on the race result but Hamilton felt that he was hampered by a poor setting on his launch control system and unhappy that the team did not keep him posted about his gap behind Vettel.
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i went for lunch half way through
i really think that while both mclaren drivers suffered earlier in the season as a result of team blunders, hamilton has now just got into a negative mindset and is looking for excuses.
the notion that he did not perform in the race to his own expectations, as a result of the team not alerting him to vettel's track position strikes me as clutching at straws.
hamilton was dropping off the back of vettel at the end as it was and i can not believe that this communication issue was the cause of his position today. so far as i know the radios are two way, and i would be amazed if mcclaren failed to answer a request from the driver for a timecheck on vettel anyway.
Clearly JPB 's IQ is not much higher than the number of points Button's accumulated this season
JPB. (U1059)
After looking at the timing difference again Hamilton was 1.9 secs behind Alonso and 21.3 secs behind Vettel before Vettel pitted.
As a pit stop would have lost Vettel 25 secs then strategically Hamilton was safe for his position. So I don't think I could lay the blame at the team for the lost position
JPB you clearly didn't watch the race otherwise you would know everyone 1 stopped as it was mentioned about 80 times on commentary!
I actually agree with this article and the sooner hamilton is at red bull the better in my eyes!
Also the bbc are a joke! There headline is " Webber wins THRILLING monaco gp" Are they for real! Must of been watching a completely different race to me then. It was the biggest snoozefest I have ever witnessed!
It was the BBC's fault that hamilton didnt win
Down with the BBC
Hammy should only appear on ITV from now on
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posted on 27/5/12
I fell asleep after lap 20, been ill all weekend. What happened please?
posted on 27/5/12
Surely this is classed as a spam article, i've read it before, a few times actually.
When will the admins ban this fool!!!
posted on 27/5/12
hamilton seems to be starting to believe it himself based on that interview.
he is getting a dangerously negative mindset and needs to sort himself out.
posted on 27/5/12
i've read it before, a few times actually.
----
Because it happens every race!
posted on 27/5/12
Button looked hopeless against a Caterham, goodness what in the name is going on at Mclaren!
posted on 27/5/12
For the last fifty years actually, i cant stand new age F1 fans who dont have a clue.
posted on 27/5/12
Can somebody please give me an overview?
Just watched Lewis' interview. Sounded like he's given up.
posted on 27/5/12
cant stand new age F1 fans who dont have a clue
---------------
Yet they are always right!
pseudo experts say all is well at Mclaren, yet results and performances don't reflect that!
posted on 27/5/12
Can somebody please give me an overview?
-------------------
SouthL just think of the usual nonsense that Mclaren strategists and pitcrew get up to then you'll have the whole picture!
posted on 27/5/12
Slow pit stops? Tactical errors? And something so stupid it makes you laugh?
posted on 27/5/12
there was no team problem at all with hamilton. he just didnt win. pit stops were fine, stratgey was same as everyone else's. he got left on the start and lost a couple of places and then wasnt as quick as alonso at the end of the first stint so got passed. just a parade after that. looked like his tyres were going off at the end but he hung on for 5th.
posted on 27/5/12
pit stops were fine
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Goodness here we go again, 4.6 sec Mc pitstop compared to 3.3s Ferrari you consider this fine!
posted on 27/5/12
I said it before and I will say it again Kovalainen is way better than Button!
posted on 27/5/12
The list below shows the total pit time throughout the race.
McLAren do not look good do they.
Driver Team Time
Nico Rosberg Mercedes 24.874
Felipe Massa Ferrari 24.993
Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 25.079
Michael Schumacher Mercedes 25.117
Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 25.219
Fernando Alonso Ferrari 25.220
Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 25.335
Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 25.566
Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 25.567
Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 25.642
Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 25.666
Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 25.748
Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 26.063
Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 26.066
Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 26.157
Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 26.380
Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 26.410
Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 26.447
Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 26.973
Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 27.186
Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 27.306
Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 28.390
Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 31.293
Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 36.503
Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 39.391
posted on 27/5/12
McLAren do not look good do they
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They only look decent for Button!
posted on 27/5/12
what do those times represent ? everyone 2 stopped didnt they ? so what does the 12-13 second period represent ? it's too quick for time spent in the pit lane isnt it ?
whatever the figures represent, they dont strike me as having determined the result of the race, not least because the order is nothing like the order of race finishers. if hamilton is really the best driver that has ever lived, he should be capable of making up 0.2 seconds over the course of the race.
posted on 27/5/12
The times represent the time lost in having to slow down for pit entry, the time of the pit stop and the time to exit the pit lane.
The drivers only stopped once for tyres and McLaren were the 4th fastest team after Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull.
The pit stops did not impact on the race result but Hamilton felt that he was hampered by a poor setting on his launch control system and unhappy that the team did not keep him posted about his gap behind Vettel.
The team should have told him about how many seconds Vettel had in his pocket. Hamilton would then have taken the risk to close up in order to prevent Vettel coming out ahead of him.
posted on 27/5/12
People don't you all just get tired of making the same excuses for Mclaren, week-in week-out the same BS is happening, lack of communication, pitstops, strategy, lack of pace etc.
Whats for sure is Hamilton needs to leave Mclaren, clearly they have a lot of issues to sort out!
posted on 27/5/12
Ever since Button arrived at Mclaren nothing but calamity has befallen Mclaren, they went from a decent team to complete ameteurs!
posted on 27/5/12
The drivers only stopped once for tyres and McLaren were the 4th fastest team after Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull.
The pit stops did not impact on the race result but Hamilton felt that he was hampered by a poor setting on his launch control system and unhappy that the team did not keep him posted about his gap behind Vettel.
=================
i went for lunch half way through
i really think that while both mclaren drivers suffered earlier in the season as a result of team blunders, hamilton has now just got into a negative mindset and is looking for excuses.
the notion that he did not perform in the race to his own expectations, as a result of the team not alerting him to vettel's track position strikes me as clutching at straws.
hamilton was dropping off the back of vettel at the end as it was and i can not believe that this communication issue was the cause of his position today. so far as i know the radios are two way, and i would be amazed if mcclaren failed to answer a request from the driver for a timecheck on vettel anyway.
posted on 27/5/12
Clearly JPB 's IQ is not much higher than the number of points Button's accumulated this season
posted on 27/5/12
JPB. (U1059)
After looking at the timing difference again Hamilton was 1.9 secs behind Alonso and 21.3 secs behind Vettel before Vettel pitted.
As a pit stop would have lost Vettel 25 secs then strategically Hamilton was safe for his position. So I don't think I could lay the blame at the team for the lost position
posted on 27/5/12
JPB you clearly didn't watch the race otherwise you would know everyone 1 stopped as it was mentioned about 80 times on commentary!
I actually agree with this article and the sooner hamilton is at red bull the better in my eyes!
posted on 27/5/12
Also the bbc are a joke! There headline is " Webber wins THRILLING monaco gp" Are they for real! Must of been watching a completely different race to me then. It was the biggest snoozefest I have ever witnessed!
posted on 27/5/12
It was the BBC's fault that hamilton didnt win
Down with the BBC
Hammy should only appear on ITV from now on
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