The media have an agenda, which during this process has become apparent.
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The victime mentality re-surfaces
Pray tell what this 'agenda' is & why it seemingly exists across the entire media spectrum
toblerone, the press like to beat anyone with a stick. they did it with wolves and their managerial situation and are now doing it with us considering we haven't had a manager for nearly 2 weeks.
They all speak to their candidate/s, call it an interview or w.e it doesnt matter its the same thing when it comes to football.
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Oh come off it, once the 'formal' approach has gone it, the appt is virtually always a fait accompli - as the discussions have already gone on via agents etc, clearing the way for a final meeting to conclude the process.
What's been going on at LFC in the last week is totally different, it's been a public sizing up of candidates & a desire to follow a process that seemingly no-one apart from Martinez was willing to participate in.
toblerone, the press like to beat anyone with a stick
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That wasn't what he was intimating, he was suggesting that were was an anti LFC agenda.
" When have you ever heard of a football club approaching another club for permission for their manager to attend an interview? "
Well a quick look at Steve Bruce's history of being approached -
'Bolton Wanderers were refused permission to speak to him about their managerial vacancy. Later that month, Bruce and Yeung held a meeting which reportedly had positive results. However, Bruce later claimed that Birmingham's then Managing Director Karren Brady had "shafted" him on a new contract with the club, and when Wigan Athletic requested permission to speak to Bruce about their managerial vacancy, he was receptive to their approach.
On 27 May 2009, Bruce was reported to have been given permission to talk to Sunderland about succeeding Ricky Sbragia, who resigned as manager after the last match of the season'
No it never happens does it
comment by Toblerone Boots (U4965)
posted 5 minutes ago
What's been going on at LFC in the last week is totally different, it's been a public sizing up of candidates & a desire to follow a process that seemingly no-one apart from Martinez was willing to participate in.
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You make it sound like it's our owners who have been publicising our recruitment policy.
FSG have kept quiet throughout the whole process and it's the media or Dave Whelan who are guilty of making a mockery of the whole process.
FSG have kept quiet throughout the whole process and it's the media or Dave Whelan who are guilty of making a mockery of the whole process.
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How have Whelan & the press made a mockery of the process?
"West Brom are set to step up their bid to make Birmingham boss Chris Hughton their new manager.
The Baggies are poised to ask Blues for permission to speak to Hughton in the next 24 to 48 hours with regards to replacing Roy Hodgson."
well anytime anything has happened, whelan has been straight on the phone to sky sports news. The press keep going on about this process being a mockery, but how do they know? FSG have kept their cards close to their chest and are getting slated for it.
lfcbow - TB has me filtered if you would like to address his assertion "When have you ever heard of a football club approaching another club for permission for their manager to attend an interview?" - with the examples I've given. If you don't want to that's fine as well
They've approached a number of targets though, something that is alien to how the process normally works. So the press have stated their opinion on it.
As for Whelan, Martinez is his manager & he has every right to pass comment on what's going on with him.
Tonerone
The only ones publisicing our manager search is the media and Dave Whelan. The owners have kept all business behind doors.
Asking a clubs owners for permission to speak to their manager is out of respect and is the right way to do it in my opinion
That Guardian report had NO quotes in it.....as opposed to the earlier reporting on the Rodgers to Liverpool stuff where Swansea confirmed the following
A Swansea statement said: "The club is pleased to confirm that Brendan has declined the opportunity to speak about the vacant position."
He turned you down....get over it.
The only ones publisicing our manager search is the media and Dave Whelan. The owners have kept all business behind doors.
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So what?
The media have passed on comment on what they generally consider to be a rather bizarre way of going about it & Whelan has been talking about a man he currently employs.
Well a quick look at Steve Bruce's history of being approached -
'Bolton Wanderers were refused permission to speak to him about their managerial vacancy. Later that month, Bruce and Yeung held a meeting which reportedly had positive results. However, Bruce later claimed that Birmingham's then Managing Director Karren Brady had "shafted" him on a new contract with the club, and when Wigan Athletic requested permission to speak to Bruce about their managerial vacancy, he was receptive to their approach.
On 27 May 2009, Bruce was reported to have been given permission to talk to Sunderland about succeeding Ricky Sbragia, who resigned as manager after the last match of the season'
for tb from Johnsonbaby
What's Steve Bruce got to do with anything?
"West Brom are set to step up their bid to make Birmingham boss Chris Hughton their new manager.
The Baggies are poised to ask Blues for permission to speak to Hughton in the next 24 to 48 hours with regards to replacing Roy Hodgson."
and another one in response to when do managers get approached! I think this is what johnsonbaby wanted me to do!
Any manager now offered the job will know that they are second choice to Martinez
why is that devonshire? just because a man has an interview does not mean he is first choice! Liverpool have denied offering martinez!
The Baggies are poised to ask Blues for permission to speak to Hughton in the next 24 to 48 hours with regards to replacing Roy Hodgson."
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How many clubs have WBA formally approached during their search??????
I think you'll find that you're cementing my point, not negating it.
& how do you know that ballon JB?
Liverpool have denied offering martinez!
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Really?
I thought they'd not passed comment & it was the nasty press that were making things up?
he asked me to pass on the message and i did!
Ok but with believing what the press are saying, we have only approached 2 managers!
Ok but with believing what the press are saying, we have only approached 2 managers
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De Boer, Klopp, Martinez & Rodgers - I make that 4...............that we know of..............
I've read in some papers that they denied making an offer.
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Haha even Rogers turned us down...
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posted on 28/5/12
The media have an agenda, which during this process has become apparent.
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The victime mentality re-surfaces
Pray tell what this 'agenda' is & why it seemingly exists across the entire media spectrum
posted on 28/5/12
toblerone, the press like to beat anyone with a stick. they did it with wolves and their managerial situation and are now doing it with us considering we haven't had a manager for nearly 2 weeks.
posted on 28/5/12
They all speak to their candidate/s, call it an interview or w.e it doesnt matter its the same thing when it comes to football.
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Oh come off it, once the 'formal' approach has gone it, the appt is virtually always a fait accompli - as the discussions have already gone on via agents etc, clearing the way for a final meeting to conclude the process.
What's been going on at LFC in the last week is totally different, it's been a public sizing up of candidates & a desire to follow a process that seemingly no-one apart from Martinez was willing to participate in.
posted on 28/5/12
toblerone, the press like to beat anyone with a stick
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That wasn't what he was intimating, he was suggesting that were was an anti LFC agenda.
posted on 28/5/12
" When have you ever heard of a football club approaching another club for permission for their manager to attend an interview? "
Well a quick look at Steve Bruce's history of being approached -
'Bolton Wanderers were refused permission to speak to him about their managerial vacancy. Later that month, Bruce and Yeung held a meeting which reportedly had positive results. However, Bruce later claimed that Birmingham's then Managing Director Karren Brady had "shafted" him on a new contract with the club, and when Wigan Athletic requested permission to speak to Bruce about their managerial vacancy, he was receptive to their approach.
On 27 May 2009, Bruce was reported to have been given permission to talk to Sunderland about succeeding Ricky Sbragia, who resigned as manager after the last match of the season'
No it never happens does it
posted on 28/5/12
comment by Toblerone Boots (U4965)
posted 5 minutes ago
What's been going on at LFC in the last week is totally different, it's been a public sizing up of candidates & a desire to follow a process that seemingly no-one apart from Martinez was willing to participate in.
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You make it sound like it's our owners who have been publicising our recruitment policy.
FSG have kept quiet throughout the whole process and it's the media or Dave Whelan who are guilty of making a mockery of the whole process.
posted on 28/5/12
FSG have kept quiet throughout the whole process and it's the media or Dave Whelan who are guilty of making a mockery of the whole process.
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How have Whelan & the press made a mockery of the process?
posted on 28/5/12
"West Brom are set to step up their bid to make Birmingham boss Chris Hughton their new manager.
The Baggies are poised to ask Blues for permission to speak to Hughton in the next 24 to 48 hours with regards to replacing Roy Hodgson."
posted on 28/5/12
well anytime anything has happened, whelan has been straight on the phone to sky sports news. The press keep going on about this process being a mockery, but how do they know? FSG have kept their cards close to their chest and are getting slated for it.
posted on 28/5/12
lfcbow - TB has me filtered if you would like to address his assertion "When have you ever heard of a football club approaching another club for permission for their manager to attend an interview?" - with the examples I've given. If you don't want to that's fine as well
posted on 28/5/12
They've approached a number of targets though, something that is alien to how the process normally works. So the press have stated their opinion on it.
As for Whelan, Martinez is his manager & he has every right to pass comment on what's going on with him.
posted on 28/5/12
Tonerone
The only ones publisicing our manager search is the media and Dave Whelan. The owners have kept all business behind doors.
Asking a clubs owners for permission to speak to their manager is out of respect and is the right way to do it in my opinion
posted on 28/5/12
That Guardian report had NO quotes in it.....as opposed to the earlier reporting on the Rodgers to Liverpool stuff where Swansea confirmed the following
A Swansea statement said: "The club is pleased to confirm that Brendan has declined the opportunity to speak about the vacant position."
He turned you down....get over it.
posted on 28/5/12
The only ones publisicing our manager search is the media and Dave Whelan. The owners have kept all business behind doors.
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So what?
The media have passed on comment on what they generally consider to be a rather bizarre way of going about it & Whelan has been talking about a man he currently employs.
posted on 28/5/12
Well a quick look at Steve Bruce's history of being approached -
'Bolton Wanderers were refused permission to speak to him about their managerial vacancy. Later that month, Bruce and Yeung held a meeting which reportedly had positive results. However, Bruce later claimed that Birmingham's then Managing Director Karren Brady had "shafted" him on a new contract with the club, and when Wigan Athletic requested permission to speak to Bruce about their managerial vacancy, he was receptive to their approach.
On 27 May 2009, Bruce was reported to have been given permission to talk to Sunderland about succeeding Ricky Sbragia, who resigned as manager after the last match of the season'
for tb from Johnsonbaby
posted on 28/5/12
What's Steve Bruce got to do with anything?
posted on 28/5/12
"West Brom are set to step up their bid to make Birmingham boss Chris Hughton their new manager.
The Baggies are poised to ask Blues for permission to speak to Hughton in the next 24 to 48 hours with regards to replacing Roy Hodgson."
and another one in response to when do managers get approached! I think this is what johnsonbaby wanted me to do!
posted on 28/5/12
Any manager now offered the job will know that they are second choice to Martinez
posted on 28/5/12
why is that devonshire? just because a man has an interview does not mean he is first choice! Liverpool have denied offering martinez!
posted on 28/5/12
The Baggies are poised to ask Blues for permission to speak to Hughton in the next 24 to 48 hours with regards to replacing Roy Hodgson."
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How many clubs have WBA formally approached during their search??????
I think you'll find that you're cementing my point, not negating it.
& how do you know that ballon JB?
posted on 28/5/12
Liverpool have denied offering martinez!
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Really?
I thought they'd not passed comment & it was the nasty press that were making things up?
posted on 28/5/12
he asked me to pass on the message and i did!
Ok but with believing what the press are saying, we have only approached 2 managers!
posted on 28/5/12
Asked you how?
posted on 28/5/12
Ok but with believing what the press are saying, we have only approached 2 managers
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De Boer, Klopp, Martinez & Rodgers - I make that 4...............that we know of..............
posted on 28/5/12
I've read in some papers that they denied making an offer.
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