BMJ = Martin Jol, I assume the B stands for big?
just put MJ......... its friday and your taxing my brain
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Sentiment aside bmj for me.
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1 bmj liked us. Harry don't
2 bmj got us 5th with a inferior squad
3 bmj had us playing very good football
4 bmj didn't take credit where is wasn't due a la Harry with bale.
5 Harry has isolated very good squad players who want to leave
6 Harry isn't able to change a game at all. His substitutions are always like for like
7 Harry will jump ship as soon as a (perceived) better offer is rec'd
Now don't get me wrong. Am not at all saying Harry out. The board have to decide if they are going to back hr with loot for transfers and a new contract , which he wouldn't sign when he thought he could get the engurland job
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Sensiblle is another word for dull
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Weare
I think you should scroll back through the entire thread before deciding who is the insulting one. Read though it, i've got my opinions on this matter but i think the only one here getting personal is you. All i've done is write things as i see it, but here you are again thinking it's all about you again. Have a word with yourself mate. Your name hasn't been mentioned once in this entire thread by me but fridgeboy, tool and idiot seem to be all over your posts.
Just accept that i don't share your opinion, it's as simple as that. If you're allowed to rant about Harry, i'm allowed to rave about him. Oh, and the very fact that you assumed i was aiming this at the 606 community says exactly how much notice you take of what other people really say. In reference to 'It's your fault' i was talking about the tottenham collective, the fans, here there and everywhere, not some solitary abuser here at 606.
Just wind your neck in mate. Are you not capable of having a reasonably heated debate without throwing insults around?
If you talked some sense i might listen to you but all you do is come on here and have a go at people because in your world no one is allowed to have a go at Harry or question him .. ,
To be fair for the purpose of balance a fanbase needs people like fridge who are staunch redknapp fans. They make you consider the other side of it
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Flare up? I'd call this nuclear warfare!
It's obviously an emotive issue, but we should remember that Levy knows what's best, and he's not failed us yet.
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He deserves another season but I can't see how too many Spurs fans would argue with a sacking if we experienced another one of those disappointing relegation-form runs. That's twice in 2 consecutive seasons we've experienced it, and both times it has cost us CL football.
We shouldn't let what he did with us in his first full season blind us from reality.
There are other issues at hand that irks us about him such as his interviews, and his lack of signings (though hard to know how much is Levy and how much Arry). The England job thing - I can't believe people still act like that's his fault.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 hours, 21 minutes ago
Fridgeboy, come on mate. I think attacking you're fellow spurs fans like this is not the way to go. Don't get me wrong i can understand you're frustrations completely. You are a passionate spurs fan like all of us and feel Harry is being driven out and you are angry about this and i do understand that BUT you need to look at the facts mate aswell and it's not all bloo dy rosy in the Harry garden you know.
I'm in the crowd where i want Harry to stay, i have no kicked up a fuss about Harry and never will but it dosen't mean that i don't feel he IS to blame for our complete collapse for 2 seasons running. I agree that our target was top 4 but in the end 4th place was not good enough and obviously that's not Harry's fault but we should and Harry should of had 3rd wrapped up ages ago, relegation form has cost us and that is down to the players but largely down to Harry redknapp.
Harry took his eye off the ball wether you like to believe that or not fridgeboy, you don't just go from being one of the top teams in the prem playing the best football to suddenly a pile of s h it in the space of a few weeks. This is what happened and it all happened during the england fiasco, coincidence? No chance!! Redknapp took his eye off the ball and i am not suprised that Levy is fuming.
Signings? Has ever Harry ever really signed anyone that has really been a huge success at spurs apart from possibly parker? I'd say no. The players like Bale, Modric, Lennon etc were already tottenham players before Harry came. Harry has definetly helped develop them and turn them into top players but when it comes to sounding out players to sign, i think Harry has been a major disappointment. Crouch, Palacios, Bassong, Nelsen , Saha, Defoe, Gallas. Levy was the guy that signed Rafa Van der Vaart and Levy was the guy that asked Harry what he thought of Adebayor. My point being that Harry's track record of signings are hardly superb are they?
Like i pointed out, i want Harry to stay but if he does go then i certainly wouldn't be disappointed. My love for Harry died down when he started spouting to the media constantly about the england job and the fiasco surrounding the england job which basically cost us our champions league place. I feel a better manager who is more tottenham driven and more a of a winner can come in and do just as good as a job as Harry.
I think people are also annoyed that Harry consistantly comes out and attacks the tottenham fans " you never had it this good" ....it's wrong mate and shouldn't be done. He also contradicts himself on a daily basis. One day we should be challenging the title, next day 3rd is only achievable, next day we should just be happy with top 4, next day it's very hard to get top 4.....make up you're bloody mind harry This is why spurs fans are frustrated with him fridge boy. I can see both sides of the argument. If Harry stays then excellent but he certainly needs to change his ways...COYS!!
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Brilliant summary Don, I am more in the Arry out camp but like you have to give credit where its due. Ramos proved to us that not any old manager can take us to top 4, so Harry does have to be praised for that.
Also, poor from you Weare, if someone has an opinion different from you and/or disagrees with you. You shouldn't go out your way to insult them and try to drive them away from this site. Its a debating forum, all opinions should be welcome
Endinspur.. Perhaps you should read this article a bit more closely.. Fridgeboy is calling people mindless and shortsighted I'd,ckhead set of fans.. If you think that is not insulting or attacking anyone then I'm gobsmacked. .. Guy spends half his time throwing rubbish comments at people about what he thinks they think about Harry.. Sorry if you don't like my replys to him but as far as im concerned they are 100%fair and warranted
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posted on 1/6/12
BMJ = Martin Jol, I assume the B stands for big?
posted on 1/6/12
just put MJ......... its friday and your taxing my brain
posted on 1/6/12
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posted on 1/6/12
Sentiment aside bmj for me.
posted on 1/6/12
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posted on 1/6/12
1 bmj liked us. Harry don't
2 bmj got us 5th with a inferior squad
3 bmj had us playing very good football
4 bmj didn't take credit where is wasn't due a la Harry with bale.
5 Harry has isolated very good squad players who want to leave
6 Harry isn't able to change a game at all. His substitutions are always like for like
7 Harry will jump ship as soon as a (perceived) better offer is rec'd
Now don't get me wrong. Am not at all saying Harry out. The board have to decide if they are going to back hr with loot for transfers and a new contract , which he wouldn't sign when he thought he could get the engurland job
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galvin is sensible.
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Sensiblle is another word for dull
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posted on 1/6/12
Weare
I think you should scroll back through the entire thread before deciding who is the insulting one. Read though it, i've got my opinions on this matter but i think the only one here getting personal is you. All i've done is write things as i see it, but here you are again thinking it's all about you again. Have a word with yourself mate. Your name hasn't been mentioned once in this entire thread by me but fridgeboy, tool and idiot seem to be all over your posts.
Just accept that i don't share your opinion, it's as simple as that. If you're allowed to rant about Harry, i'm allowed to rave about him. Oh, and the very fact that you assumed i was aiming this at the 606 community says exactly how much notice you take of what other people really say. In reference to 'It's your fault' i was talking about the tottenham collective, the fans, here there and everywhere, not some solitary abuser here at 606.
Just wind your neck in mate. Are you not capable of having a reasonably heated debate without throwing insults around?
posted on 1/6/12
If you talked some sense i might listen to you but all you do is come on here and have a go at people because in your world no one is allowed to have a go at Harry or question him .. ,
posted on 1/6/12
To be fair for the purpose of balance a fanbase needs people like fridge who are staunch redknapp fans. They make you consider the other side of it
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Chronic
posted on 1/6/12
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posted on 1/6/12
Flare up? I'd call this nuclear warfare!
It's obviously an emotive issue, but we should remember that Levy knows what's best, and he's not failed us yet.
posted on 1/6/12
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posted on 1/6/12
He deserves another season but I can't see how too many Spurs fans would argue with a sacking if we experienced another one of those disappointing relegation-form runs. That's twice in 2 consecutive seasons we've experienced it, and both times it has cost us CL football.
We shouldn't let what he did with us in his first full season blind us from reality.
There are other issues at hand that irks us about him such as his interviews, and his lack of signings (though hard to know how much is Levy and how much Arry). The England job thing - I can't believe people still act like that's his fault.
posted on 1/6/12
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 hours, 21 minutes ago
Fridgeboy, come on mate. I think attacking you're fellow spurs fans like this is not the way to go. Don't get me wrong i can understand you're frustrations completely. You are a passionate spurs fan like all of us and feel Harry is being driven out and you are angry about this and i do understand that BUT you need to look at the facts mate aswell and it's not all bloo dy rosy in the Harry garden you know.
I'm in the crowd where i want Harry to stay, i have no kicked up a fuss about Harry and never will but it dosen't mean that i don't feel he IS to blame for our complete collapse for 2 seasons running. I agree that our target was top 4 but in the end 4th place was not good enough and obviously that's not Harry's fault but we should and Harry should of had 3rd wrapped up ages ago, relegation form has cost us and that is down to the players but largely down to Harry redknapp.
Harry took his eye off the ball wether you like to believe that or not fridgeboy, you don't just go from being one of the top teams in the prem playing the best football to suddenly a pile of s h it in the space of a few weeks. This is what happened and it all happened during the england fiasco, coincidence? No chance!! Redknapp took his eye off the ball and i am not suprised that Levy is fuming.
Signings? Has ever Harry ever really signed anyone that has really been a huge success at spurs apart from possibly parker? I'd say no. The players like Bale, Modric, Lennon etc were already tottenham players before Harry came. Harry has definetly helped develop them and turn them into top players but when it comes to sounding out players to sign, i think Harry has been a major disappointment. Crouch, Palacios, Bassong, Nelsen , Saha, Defoe, Gallas. Levy was the guy that signed Rafa Van der Vaart and Levy was the guy that asked Harry what he thought of Adebayor. My point being that Harry's track record of signings are hardly superb are they?
Like i pointed out, i want Harry to stay but if he does go then i certainly wouldn't be disappointed. My love for Harry died down when he started spouting to the media constantly about the england job and the fiasco surrounding the england job which basically cost us our champions league place. I feel a better manager who is more tottenham driven and more a of a winner can come in and do just as good as a job as Harry.
I think people are also annoyed that Harry consistantly comes out and attacks the tottenham fans " you never had it this good" ....it's wrong mate and shouldn't be done. He also contradicts himself on a daily basis. One day we should be challenging the title, next day 3rd is only achievable, next day we should just be happy with top 4, next day it's very hard to get top 4.....make up you're bloody mind harry This is why spurs fans are frustrated with him fridge boy. I can see both sides of the argument. If Harry stays then excellent but he certainly needs to change his ways...COYS!!
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Brilliant summary Don, I am more in the Arry out camp but like you have to give credit where its due. Ramos proved to us that not any old manager can take us to top 4, so Harry does have to be praised for that.
Also, poor from you Weare, if someone has an opinion different from you and/or disagrees with you. You shouldn't go out your way to insult them and try to drive them away from this site. Its a debating forum, all opinions should be welcome
posted on 1/6/12
Endinspur.. Perhaps you should read this article a bit more closely.. Fridgeboy is calling people mindless and shortsighted I'd,ckhead set of fans.. If you think that is not insulting or attacking anyone then I'm gobsmacked. .. Guy spends half his time throwing rubbish comments at people about what he thinks they think about Harry.. Sorry if you don't like my replys to him but as far as im concerned they are 100%fair and warranted
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