I am a one hundred percent anti-bates and personally think he has lost the plot ( maybe due to his age ? )
But I am uncomfortable with this route you're going down as I can't see how disaffecting the playing staff can have any benefit , quite the opposite in fact .
I know one thing already , its gonna take one hell of an effort to get this club / team into any kind of shape for the start of the season . Can't see how this helps ?
The whole thing is just a shabby mess .
Rant over

Utopia, and that all rests on Bates' shoulders.
No one else.

LUST aren't unsettling the players Bates is and he's been doing it ever since he came to the club.

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Even the worst despots in the world managed to find some who would blindly follow them. Seeing Bates
still managing to con a few here, is no surprise at all.

Just plain old sad for LUFC.

Unfortunately batty, the folk who continually defend bates or mock people trying to make a difference are actually helping to hold the club back, hard to believe they're really Leeds fans seeing as they don't seem to want the best for the club nor fight for it.

I'm not anti-LUST at all ,quite the opposite. Its just that this seems a strange avenue to go down , speaking to players, where is the benefit of that , they have no say just like us .
I just want to move forward and we seem to be stuck in a great big hole .
Like I said before - somebody will have to pick up the pieces of this mess very soon .

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They haven't even spoken to the players. It's a truckload of horse dung

'It's a truckload of horse dung'

You should know as reading your drivel this past year you seem to have a degree in it

Jonty ,
"Do you think change will just happen on it's own otherwise?"
well thats the million dollar question. My point was trying to see the benefit of disaffection.
I wish the football authorities would step in now and just say enough is enough and kick Bates out of football.

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