Following them on Facebook and twitter. Any blue should at least read the letter. All they want Ian answerable and exposure of the board failings. As van be see from the response to David prentice and is ridiculous article fans are turning at last. Before people start spouting well who do we get in blah blah this is.not about that. We are simply stagnating if ghetto media started reporting this than we may just get the help we need.
Stupid predictive text on my phone. What I'm trying to say is it is all too cosy. The board seems incapable of moving us forward. Last season the media was up in arms over Liverpool while we are just left to suffer. We need to kick the board into action media exposure isbthe only way
Any blue should at least read the letter.
-------------------------
Got a link?
Its a bit different though, Liverpool nearly went into administration because of the owners greed! Everton have over-acheived and whilst not setting the prem alight, I don't think there is much danger of the club folding. You get a large attendance every week and have a fairly small, managable debt. BK not having much ambition isn't going to make the back pages.
comment by Taggart3D ⒹⒶⓁⒼⓁⒾⓈⒽ (U1183)
==
For once I can agree with Taggart
Yeah I do too. Apart from confusing a lack of ambition with a lack of money.
http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/11-12/news/article.php?ID=10219 here is link been posted in new places. The echo got involved and tried to spout the usual club spin and was shot down. There seems to genuine backing from fans wanting answers
Just the fact that your link is from Toffeeweb has put me off. I have no doubt that they're genuine fans...but they are very anti-the board and it wouldn't surprise me if this is just the latest in a long line of attempts to oust him
...BK I mean, obviously. Also I'm at work so haven't read any of it. Just my first thought
It just goes round in circles. Answers are given to questions, sections of the support dont like the answers so ask for more.
They are not going to change anything, pressure from the press will not increase revenue/fanbase numbers!
Ask yourself why three very rich men will not flood the club with cash, is it becasue they cannot see how they will ever see a return?
So any new owner will have the same list of problems.
Read the letter now and I do agree with a lot of it. Kenwrights daft quotes are pretty cringe-worthy. Having said that, if I was a public figure I'm sure I'd have been quoted saying more stupid things than him.
I don't agree with employing the media to basically make BK a hate figure.
We have done fantastic in the 'Moyes era' and I do think the board deserve a lot of credit. We have a lot of brilliant players and the youth coming through looks like some of the best in the country.
The author of the letter claims 'we', the fans, are sick of accepting second best. Well I'm sorry, but unless you're Man U or Barca then you have to accept that players are going to want to move on to bigger and better things. It's Everton's job to make sure any sales 'we' make are good business for us. BK was quoted as saying he wouldn't sell Lescott, or Rooney even for £50M. Well I know these statements turned out to be wrong, but you have to show determination to hold onto players, even if it is just to gain a higher transfer fee.
I agree BK isn't perfect, but how many of the recent takeovers have been successful for the clubs involved? Not many.
Same old, same old IMO - change the record
The author of the letter claims 'we', the fans,
===
I have to admit they are getting closer to a match day protest, but we hear this, like the stories from the club every year. Who will be the first to make a real statement of intent and act on it?
If Kenwright stepped down,who will take over as Chairman and how much would they cost in wages??
If Kenwright stepped down.
===
But the question is not of him stepping down, but leaving the club.
To do so would require a buyer for his shares. Seeing as nobody can even link a potential buyer, even a rumour then we are stuck with him.
he's the hate figure because he is our chairman,if he stepped down as Chairman then who would be the patsy employed to take his place.
With our current financial state and what the future may offer he would be lucky to get the pound Ken Bates paid to buy Chelsea all those years ago
patsy employed to take his place.
==
God help whoever took that role. They would still have the same restrictions based on finance and share ownership. Bill only owns 25%!
Find a buyer via the press. Well Bill has used the media to state (along with Earl) that we are for sale. Should we put some cards in shop windows?
If Blackburn can find buyers, why cant we?
http://www.ja606.co.uk/comments/viewAllComments/12863/1#last
Be careful what you wish for.
Clubs that have been bought out by investors in recent years.
Liverpool twice,first owners almost got them going into administration,
West Ham twice first owners almost got them into administration second owners got the relegated.
Portsmouth,3-4-5 owners??? administration relegation and almost 100 years of the club going for ever
Birmingham. New owner,relegation and new owner now on bail in prison.
Newcastle. Relegation.
Sunderland.Relegation
Blackburn. selling off best players and just avoiding relegation
Southampton.double relegation.
There's probably more.
Sucessful take overs
multi billionare play things Chelski and Citeh
So we're all protesting for a takeover then yeah! I'll ring my scarf
Thats a great list and breakdown Bovril. But you forgot the first rule, anyone is better than Bill!
The man who replaced Johnson and sopped us going under. Stopped selling the clubs best players behind the managers back. Stopped deals being done with 'his' other club buying overrated players for inflated fee's.
Thanks for reminding me of that PJS.
Kenwright out Kenwright out boooo hissssss
Do Everton have the fan power to stop this ?
I say that with no malice. The time has come for your lot to dig their heels in. The sooner the better because as long as nobody is putting pressure on the board then this will go on for years.
comment by Metro_1 (U6770)
==
We have been told year on year that a protest is on the cards.
Still no sign of it, at least SOS arranged a march and a few drunk fans to show up outside court
It's a great letter.
Full of passion, organised facts and mostly coherent opinions. It's too long though and will put many people, including its intended readers, off reading it.
But although the letter asks that the Board be investigated, it’s quite clear the aim of the letter is to oust BK from the Board and the club.
There are 3 major shareholders at Everton, but in the letter, Director Robert Earl (23% share) is only mentioned 3 times (all in the same paragraph) and Deputy Chairman Jon Woods (19% share) is not mentioned. Not once. Kenwright’s name is mentioned no fewer than 26 times (not including the links). He owns only a 2% bigger share than Earl. It’s obvious it’s a witch hunt.
The majority of journalists who read it will see this and continue to watch from the sidelines. But I do hope someone does pick it up and run with it, one of the national papers, because the running of the club does need to be looked at. Just not in the form of a kangaroo court and Wicker Man style execution of BK.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not his biggest fan and I don’t believe BK should stay, but only because he doesn’t have the money to take us forward. I do believe his heart has always been in the right place, even if he hasn’t engaged his brain before coming out with some ridiculous promises in the past.
It’s a shame the people who have put so much effort into investigating and quoting BK’s shortfalls, didn’t put as much effort into offering up and explaining their own suggested alternatives to the problems (the word ‘alternative’ appears only once in the letter, but doesn’t give any).
In my own opinion (and no doubt I’ll be slated for it), the current Board have been prudent and frugal with the Club’s finances and have just about kept us afloat, rather than attempting to compete with other clubs buying policies to obtain overpriced assets.
If we get an Abramovich or a Sheik Mansour coming in prepared to make huge personal losses, I’m sure our financial problems will be solved. But that’s not likely. Let’s not be too hasty in pushing BK et al out. As ‘Even The Bovril is Watered down’ has pointed out, not all new investors know what they’re doing. They come in with big promises, but rarely do they get realised.
p.s.
If you think I’m less of an Evertonian for not backing the letter 100%, that’s up to you. Please don’t filter me, as I’m not a WUM. I simply have my own opinion, even if it differs from yours.
comment by Burgerbuns (U5244)
You are correct in all your points. Its a witch hunt, these people still cant put a reason to why the other two wealthy men have not invested.
They have made £M's from investments in the past, why not from Everton?
Sign in if you want to comment
The Peoples Change
Page 1 of 4
posted on 11/7/11
Following them on Facebook and twitter. Any blue should at least read the letter. All they want Ian answerable and exposure of the board failings. As van be see from the response to David prentice and is ridiculous article fans are turning at last. Before people start spouting well who do we get in blah blah this is.not about that. We are simply stagnating if ghetto media started reporting this than we may just get the help we need.
posted on 11/7/11
Stupid predictive text on my phone. What I'm trying to say is it is all too cosy. The board seems incapable of moving us forward. Last season the media was up in arms over Liverpool while we are just left to suffer. We need to kick the board into action media exposure isbthe only way
posted on 11/7/11
Any blue should at least read the letter.
-------------------------
Got a link?
posted on 11/7/11
Its a bit different though, Liverpool nearly went into administration because of the owners greed! Everton have over-acheived and whilst not setting the prem alight, I don't think there is much danger of the club folding. You get a large attendance every week and have a fairly small, managable debt. BK not having much ambition isn't going to make the back pages.
posted on 11/7/11
comment by Taggart3D ⒹⒶⓁⒼⓁⒾⓈⒽ (U1183)
==
For once I can agree with Taggart
posted on 11/7/11
Yeah I do too. Apart from confusing a lack of ambition with a lack of money.
posted on 11/7/11
http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/11-12/news/article.php?ID=10219 here is link been posted in new places. The echo got involved and tried to spout the usual club spin and was shot down. There seems to genuine backing from fans wanting answers
posted on 11/7/11
Just the fact that your link is from Toffeeweb has put me off. I have no doubt that they're genuine fans...but they are very anti-the board and it wouldn't surprise me if this is just the latest in a long line of attempts to oust him
posted on 11/7/11
...BK I mean, obviously. Also I'm at work so haven't read any of it. Just my first thought
posted on 11/7/11
It just goes round in circles. Answers are given to questions, sections of the support dont like the answers so ask for more.
They are not going to change anything, pressure from the press will not increase revenue/fanbase numbers!
Ask yourself why three very rich men will not flood the club with cash, is it becasue they cannot see how they will ever see a return?
So any new owner will have the same list of problems.
posted on 11/7/11
Read the letter now and I do agree with a lot of it. Kenwrights daft quotes are pretty cringe-worthy. Having said that, if I was a public figure I'm sure I'd have been quoted saying more stupid things than him.
I don't agree with employing the media to basically make BK a hate figure.
We have done fantastic in the 'Moyes era' and I do think the board deserve a lot of credit. We have a lot of brilliant players and the youth coming through looks like some of the best in the country.
The author of the letter claims 'we', the fans, are sick of accepting second best. Well I'm sorry, but unless you're Man U or Barca then you have to accept that players are going to want to move on to bigger and better things. It's Everton's job to make sure any sales 'we' make are good business for us. BK was quoted as saying he wouldn't sell Lescott, or Rooney even for £50M. Well I know these statements turned out to be wrong, but you have to show determination to hold onto players, even if it is just to gain a higher transfer fee.
I agree BK isn't perfect, but how many of the recent takeovers have been successful for the clubs involved? Not many.
Same old, same old IMO - change the record
posted on 11/7/11
The author of the letter claims 'we', the fans,
===
I have to admit they are getting closer to a match day protest, but we hear this, like the stories from the club every year. Who will be the first to make a real statement of intent and act on it?
posted on 11/7/11
If Kenwright stepped down,who will take over as Chairman and how much would they cost in wages??
posted on 11/7/11
If Kenwright stepped down.
===
But the question is not of him stepping down, but leaving the club.
To do so would require a buyer for his shares. Seeing as nobody can even link a potential buyer, even a rumour then we are stuck with him.
posted on 11/7/11
he's the hate figure because he is our chairman,if he stepped down as Chairman then who would be the patsy employed to take his place.
With our current financial state and what the future may offer he would be lucky to get the pound Ken Bates paid to buy Chelsea all those years ago
posted on 11/7/11
patsy employed to take his place.
==
God help whoever took that role. They would still have the same restrictions based on finance and share ownership. Bill only owns 25%!
Find a buyer via the press. Well Bill has used the media to state (along with Earl) that we are for sale. Should we put some cards in shop windows?
posted on 11/7/11
If Blackburn can find buyers, why cant we?
http://www.ja606.co.uk/comments/viewAllComments/12863/1#last
Be careful what you wish for.
posted on 11/7/11
Clubs that have been bought out by investors in recent years.
Liverpool twice,first owners almost got them going into administration,
West Ham twice first owners almost got them into administration second owners got the relegated.
Portsmouth,3-4-5 owners??? administration relegation and almost 100 years of the club going for ever
Birmingham. New owner,relegation and new owner now on bail in prison.
Newcastle. Relegation.
Sunderland.Relegation
Blackburn. selling off best players and just avoiding relegation
Southampton.double relegation.
There's probably more.
Sucessful take overs
multi billionare play things Chelski and Citeh
posted on 11/7/11
So we're all protesting for a takeover then yeah! I'll ring my scarf
posted on 11/7/11
Thats a great list and breakdown Bovril. But you forgot the first rule, anyone is better than Bill!
The man who replaced Johnson and sopped us going under. Stopped selling the clubs best players behind the managers back. Stopped deals being done with 'his' other club buying overrated players for inflated fee's.
posted on 11/7/11
Thanks for reminding me of that PJS.
Kenwright out Kenwright out boooo hissssss
posted on 11/7/11
Do Everton have the fan power to stop this ?
I say that with no malice. The time has come for your lot to dig their heels in. The sooner the better because as long as nobody is putting pressure on the board then this will go on for years.
posted on 11/7/11
comment by Metro_1 (U6770)
==
We have been told year on year that a protest is on the cards.
Still no sign of it, at least SOS arranged a march and a few drunk fans to show up outside court
posted on 11/7/11
It's a great letter.
Full of passion, organised facts and mostly coherent opinions. It's too long though and will put many people, including its intended readers, off reading it.
But although the letter asks that the Board be investigated, it’s quite clear the aim of the letter is to oust BK from the Board and the club.
There are 3 major shareholders at Everton, but in the letter, Director Robert Earl (23% share) is only mentioned 3 times (all in the same paragraph) and Deputy Chairman Jon Woods (19% share) is not mentioned. Not once. Kenwright’s name is mentioned no fewer than 26 times (not including the links). He owns only a 2% bigger share than Earl. It’s obvious it’s a witch hunt.
The majority of journalists who read it will see this and continue to watch from the sidelines. But I do hope someone does pick it up and run with it, one of the national papers, because the running of the club does need to be looked at. Just not in the form of a kangaroo court and Wicker Man style execution of BK.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not his biggest fan and I don’t believe BK should stay, but only because he doesn’t have the money to take us forward. I do believe his heart has always been in the right place, even if he hasn’t engaged his brain before coming out with some ridiculous promises in the past.
It’s a shame the people who have put so much effort into investigating and quoting BK’s shortfalls, didn’t put as much effort into offering up and explaining their own suggested alternatives to the problems (the word ‘alternative’ appears only once in the letter, but doesn’t give any).
In my own opinion (and no doubt I’ll be slated for it), the current Board have been prudent and frugal with the Club’s finances and have just about kept us afloat, rather than attempting to compete with other clubs buying policies to obtain overpriced assets.
If we get an Abramovich or a Sheik Mansour coming in prepared to make huge personal losses, I’m sure our financial problems will be solved. But that’s not likely. Let’s not be too hasty in pushing BK et al out. As ‘Even The Bovril is Watered down’ has pointed out, not all new investors know what they’re doing. They come in with big promises, but rarely do they get realised.
p.s.
If you think I’m less of an Evertonian for not backing the letter 100%, that’s up to you. Please don’t filter me, as I’m not a WUM. I simply have my own opinion, even if it differs from yours.
posted on 11/7/11
comment by Burgerbuns (U5244)
You are correct in all your points. Its a witch hunt, these people still cant put a reason to why the other two wealthy men have not invested.
They have made £M's from investments in the past, why not from Everton?
Page 1 of 4