Personally I would want Billy as the manager, with the money he would definitely get us up IMO especially with the team which is still mostly his and his passion for the game and the club.
I Think it will be Warnock though, which i can't argue with as he is still a good championship manager!
I posted a couple of weeks ago that I stumbled across an agent securing a Matlock Town player (for Matlock). He told me that Birmingham City were going to lose their manager to Norwich and that McCarthy was being touted for a job at Forest. Although he didn't know I was a Forest fan.
He was also aware that Rodgers was going to Liverpool and that he'll chase Sigurdsson. Rodgers signed and although Sigursson hasn't yet, he is still being chased.
So, McCarthy could well be in the frame.
Serious question, regardless of how much your new owners are worth, they can only invest £5m for transfers the rest must come from revenue. Now on the basis that forest are operating at a loss (who isn't) would Billy really have enough to spend to appease him?
Davies won't be back.
There will be ways round the FFP system I am sure but I really don't want us to become a team like the Man city's or Chelsea.
It will be nice to be rich. But i wouldn't want a team of players all on 50K a week or whatever the rich boys get.
It won't happen over night but the ride will be good if it all came true
"Personally I would want Billy as the manager, with the money he would definitely get us up IMO especially with the team which is still mostly his and his passion for the game and the club. "
Firstly you assume we're getting a ton of money, secondly he already spent a lot of money not getting us up. Glad you're not in charge.
McCarthy is a great shout, he buys well and snaps up the bargains too and outbid us for people like Matt Jarvis and Dave Edward while at Wolves.
It will be nice to be rich. But i wouldn't want a team of players all on 50K a week or whatever the rich boys get.
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I know im getting miles in front myself here. Who knows who's taking over and how much they can or will invest, if anything.
But isn't that what prem players earn. If we were to become an established prem side then that's not far from the going rate. We couldn't have success and not pay the wages.
Exactly..... the whole pay thing needs an overhaul.
Plus. After watching England we need to invest in English youth and reduce the amount of Foreign players coming into the EPL
There should not be a cap but a gentleman's agreement and every club in the EPL should invest in youth projects .
Extending the Prem to two leagues and diluting the money going to the current elite will also help reduce the extortionate wages being splashed out by the big boys.
Do you just jump on anything I say and have a go Lloyd?, I seriously have doubts that you are a Forest fan and if you claim yourself to be one, it will be one of these part time ones who never go to any game!
After watching England maybe we should be steering clear of English players altogether!!
Seriously though I agree. I'd love us to build from the youth academy and have a real push at that. We have the facilities but made a mistake with a manager that wasn't interested in youth which set us back. Our trouble though is we chop and change ethos: Hart/youth, Kinnear/old journeymen, Megson/tough grizzled type, Calderwood/youth again, Davies/spender, McClaren/supposed great coach and now Cotterill? err, he's all we could afford but let's say youth again.
If we'd have stuck with youth from Harty's time maybe we'd have gone down a season earlier but be stronger now?
First priority should be to upgrade the Academy to A1 grade so that we're at least on a par with our midlands rivals. Develop our scouting system both nationally and internationally. Since Friio stopped working for us have we even had foreign based scouts? We certainly havent had any recent signings since Moussi and Majewski. After that we need to sustain a squad of players on reasonable wages with no major disparities amongst first team regulars. This club should never again be allowed slide into the nmire and it'll take time but slowly build ourselves up to be self sustainable so that the club can run for years and years after we're all gone...
Buy young and hungry upcoming players from the lower leagues and abroad, no more over paid premiership 'never has beens'. Lazy expensive signings like Greening, Miller and Derbyshire should be a thing of the past.
Also Sean O'Driscoll would have been a great shout! But if its warnock or McCarthy I'd be happy enough to support either. It would surely be McCarthy though as he's immediately available and it could be tough to get warnock off Leeds. All depends on who any new owner wants and how badly they want them
I think Warnock wants out of Leeds though as i think he has contributed towards the rumors, especially as he is not denying anything or saying he will stay at Leeds, and if you have a manager who doesn't want to be their, then you mearswell treat them as a player and let them go.
Saying that though, that is if Fawaz is the preferred bidder, it might be someone else, then we will have no idea on who they want as manager.
the players at forest all seem to respond better to a manager who gives them a boot up the rear. didn't play well for either calderwood or mcclaren and did for billy and to some extent steve cotterill. so on that basis i'd have mick please
Only jump on the ridiculous comments SBD, just so happens........
You know the last argument is always "you're not as big a fan as me" which is just ridiculous. I've had a season ticket for many a year despite living 20 miles outside London if it really matters. My dad lives abroad so can't go to any games, does that mean he doesn't count as a fan anymore even though he went over to Munich for the first European Cup Final, etc?
"the players at forest all seem to respond better to a manager who gives them a boot up the rear. didn't play well for either calderwood or mcclaren and did for billy and to some extent steve cotterill. so on that basis i'd have mick please"
I see you missed Megson out of your list. Horses for courses and all that, Megson was possibly the lowest point for any Forest fan and he was a classic boot-up-the-rear type. Calderwood didn't cut it but there were a lot of times when we played nice stuff, ironically we played nicer football when we went up then when we were in L1 under him.
Paolo Di Canio, if for nothing more than pure passion!
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posted on 28/6/12
Personally I would want Billy as the manager, with the money he would definitely get us up IMO especially with the team which is still mostly his and his passion for the game and the club.
I Think it will be Warnock though, which i can't argue with as he is still a good championship manager!
posted on 28/6/12
I posted a couple of weeks ago that I stumbled across an agent securing a Matlock Town player (for Matlock). He told me that Birmingham City were going to lose their manager to Norwich and that McCarthy was being touted for a job at Forest. Although he didn't know I was a Forest fan.
He was also aware that Rodgers was going to Liverpool and that he'll chase Sigurdsson. Rodgers signed and although Sigursson hasn't yet, he is still being chased.
So, McCarthy could well be in the frame.
posted on 28/6/12
Serious question, regardless of how much your new owners are worth, they can only invest £5m for transfers the rest must come from revenue. Now on the basis that forest are operating at a loss (who isn't) would Billy really have enough to spend to appease him?
posted on 28/6/12
Davies won't be back.
There will be ways round the FFP system I am sure but I really don't want us to become a team like the Man city's or Chelsea.
It will be nice to be rich. But i wouldn't want a team of players all on 50K a week or whatever the rich boys get.
It won't happen over night but the ride will be good if it all came true
posted on 28/6/12
"Personally I would want Billy as the manager, with the money he would definitely get us up IMO especially with the team which is still mostly his and his passion for the game and the club. "
Firstly you assume we're getting a ton of money, secondly he already spent a lot of money not getting us up. Glad you're not in charge.
McCarthy is a great shout, he buys well and snaps up the bargains too and outbid us for people like Matt Jarvis and Dave Edward while at Wolves.
posted on 28/6/12
It will be nice to be rich. But i wouldn't want a team of players all on 50K a week or whatever the rich boys get.
_______
I know im getting miles in front myself here. Who knows who's taking over and how much they can or will invest, if anything.
But isn't that what prem players earn. If we were to become an established prem side then that's not far from the going rate. We couldn't have success and not pay the wages.
posted on 28/6/12
Exactly..... the whole pay thing needs an overhaul.
Plus. After watching England we need to invest in English youth and reduce the amount of Foreign players coming into the EPL
There should not be a cap but a gentleman's agreement and every club in the EPL should invest in youth projects .
Extending the Prem to two leagues and diluting the money going to the current elite will also help reduce the extortionate wages being splashed out by the big boys.
posted on 28/6/12
Do you just jump on anything I say and have a go Lloyd?, I seriously have doubts that you are a Forest fan and if you claim yourself to be one, it will be one of these part time ones who never go to any game!
posted on 28/6/12
After watching England maybe we should be steering clear of English players altogether!!
Seriously though I agree. I'd love us to build from the youth academy and have a real push at that. We have the facilities but made a mistake with a manager that wasn't interested in youth which set us back. Our trouble though is we chop and change ethos: Hart/youth, Kinnear/old journeymen, Megson/tough grizzled type, Calderwood/youth again, Davies/spender, McClaren/supposed great coach and now Cotterill? err, he's all we could afford but let's say youth again.
If we'd have stuck with youth from Harty's time maybe we'd have gone down a season earlier but be stronger now?
posted on 28/6/12
First priority should be to upgrade the Academy to A1 grade so that we're at least on a par with our midlands rivals. Develop our scouting system both nationally and internationally. Since Friio stopped working for us have we even had foreign based scouts? We certainly havent had any recent signings since Moussi and Majewski. After that we need to sustain a squad of players on reasonable wages with no major disparities amongst first team regulars. This club should never again be allowed slide into the nmire and it'll take time but slowly build ourselves up to be self sustainable so that the club can run for years and years after we're all gone...
posted on 28/6/12
Buy young and hungry upcoming players from the lower leagues and abroad, no more over paid premiership 'never has beens'. Lazy expensive signings like Greening, Miller and Derbyshire should be a thing of the past.
posted on 28/6/12
Also Sean O'Driscoll would have been a great shout! But if its warnock or McCarthy I'd be happy enough to support either. It would surely be McCarthy though as he's immediately available and it could be tough to get warnock off Leeds. All depends on who any new owner wants and how badly they want them
posted on 28/6/12
I think Warnock wants out of Leeds though as i think he has contributed towards the rumors, especially as he is not denying anything or saying he will stay at Leeds, and if you have a manager who doesn't want to be their, then you mearswell treat them as a player and let them go.
posted on 28/6/12
Saying that though, that is if Fawaz is the preferred bidder, it might be someone else, then we will have no idea on who they want as manager.
posted on 28/6/12
the players at forest all seem to respond better to a manager who gives them a boot up the rear. didn't play well for either calderwood or mcclaren and did for billy and to some extent steve cotterill. so on that basis i'd have mick please
posted on 28/6/12
Only jump on the ridiculous comments SBD, just so happens........
You know the last argument is always "you're not as big a fan as me" which is just ridiculous. I've had a season ticket for many a year despite living 20 miles outside London if it really matters. My dad lives abroad so can't go to any games, does that mean he doesn't count as a fan anymore even though he went over to Munich for the first European Cup Final, etc?
posted on 28/6/12
"the players at forest all seem to respond better to a manager who gives them a boot up the rear. didn't play well for either calderwood or mcclaren and did for billy and to some extent steve cotterill. so on that basis i'd have mick please"
I see you missed Megson out of your list. Horses for courses and all that, Megson was possibly the lowest point for any Forest fan and he was a classic boot-up-the-rear type. Calderwood didn't cut it but there were a lot of times when we played nice stuff, ironically we played nicer football when we went up then when we were in L1 under him.
posted on 28/6/12
Paolo Di Canio, if for nothing more than pure passion!
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