So.... any rising stars in the arsenal academy?
At liverpool we have sterling and suso who both look pretty good.
Gnarbry is supposedly good. Josh Rees also, and Benik Afobe was wanted by Barca
"Im not wumming, but I have noticed that Arsenal fans seem to be obsessed with Fabregas and regard him as a legend despite him forcing a move to barca. I see countless articles about him and im wandering why do you care so much about him? On the liverpool boards, there is hardly talk of fernando, mascherano and players who have left. Im also confuses why you see nasri as such a villain compared to fabregas?"
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Good comment and good question. I wish people would just forget about Cesc. He's a Barcelona player.
I guess fabregas is held in the same kind of light as alonso at liverpool although alonso was never appreciated until he was gone.
Winch
Believe me when I tell you that I do not regard him as a legend by any stretch, I think I hinted at that in my article. The reason I seem to be interested is he was the best attacking midfielder I have ever seen play for the club and seeing him being just a squad player is pretty shocking. Even brings the question as to whether he is really happy about things at the moment.
Winch to put it in a context, its like adoption (kind of)
Barca are the gentic parents, but gave up the child (fabregas)
We (arsenal) adopted him and developed and nurtured him. He eventually left us (the adopted parents) for his biological parents (Barca).
So you can see why we talk about him
We have a fair few rising stars in the academy. Hopefully we will have a similar success rate to the group that has given us Szczesny, Gibbs, Wilshere, Coquelin, Frimpong, Afobe, Miquel and Bartley.
Martinez, an Argentina keeper, Martin Angha (Swiss CB), Serge Gnabry (German winger) Jon Toral and Hector Bellerin (2 more with Barca DNA) Kristoffer Olssen, to name a few.
You should see all of them in the NextGen competition.
At barca hes just one of many good midfielders, even busquets is better than most people think as hes just known for his play acting.
English players
"but Cesc unlike Torres and the Masch left on good terms,"
That is the biggest lie I have seen here for a long time. Cesc forced a move out and made us only get half the amount he was worth. To me that is not on good terms by any means.
I see fab, how do you rate wilshere compared to fabregas then?
Barcelona always manage to get cheap fees by tapping up the players basically, cant believe we only got 20m for masch seeing as we paid 18m in the first place. I was under the impression that fabregas forced a move out in a similar fashion to nasri. At liverpool we dont hold a grudge at alonso as we know that although he forced his move out, he felt unwanted as rafa tried to sell him in order to sign gareth barry.
Winch when he was in the youth team, he played the playmaker. I believe he will do here as well. In his early days (2008-10) he was the playmaker in the youth team
Winch
Wilshere just like Fabregas has shown immense ability beyond his age but he only lucks the silky skills of the Spaniard because well, he is not really a Latin player. He is more of a deep lying playmaker and if he gets over his injury issues, he might become as important for the club as the Spaniard used to be.
☺ Wumpatrol ☺ Feeding on wums since 2010 ☻ (U5046)
"Cesc forced a move out and made us only get half the amount he was worth. To me that is not on good terms by any means."
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did the club criticise him?, did he criticise arsenal?
We should have got more money but gazidis is no daniel levy.
Also of course Cesc is happy!
He is playing at a massive club, made plenty of starts, and has won stuff already. And his future looks bright and is firmly part of a future barca midfield with Xavi eventually retiring.
I'm not sure he regrets not staying at arsenal so he can remain trophyless and play with gervinho and chamakh. Sold empty promises of success, and big tranfers only around the corner.
I'm sure he will always remember his time as an arsenal player but feels he made a fantastic decision to move back to barca playing with players who are on his level.
Winch master (U10228)
Oh yes, I forgot about your relationship with Xabi Alonso.
Alonso still says great things about Liverpool and Cesc has done the same after his mood. But its difficult for him, because barca fans will not appreciate him still talking about arsenal. Sadly [ for us ], both players moved on to bigger and better things, but still hold fond memories.
Fabregas has a very square head and Pirlos head is too big for his little body.
Has xavi said hes going to retire or somrething, because I would of thought he still has at least two orthree years at barca
Winch master (U10228)
He can't last forever winchy, and when he does, cesc will be there
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Cesc will come back to Arsenal at 28/29.
As for Wilshere - cant believe someone above called him a deep lying playmaker!
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posted on 1/7/12
So.... any rising stars in the arsenal academy?
At liverpool we have sterling and suso who both look pretty good.
posted on 1/7/12
Gnarbry is supposedly good. Josh Rees also, and Benik Afobe was wanted by Barca
posted on 1/7/12
"Im not wumming, but I have noticed that Arsenal fans seem to be obsessed with Fabregas and regard him as a legend despite him forcing a move to barca. I see countless articles about him and im wandering why do you care so much about him? On the liverpool boards, there is hardly talk of fernando, mascherano and players who have left. Im also confuses why you see nasri as such a villain compared to fabregas?"
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Good comment and good question. I wish people would just forget about Cesc. He's a Barcelona player.
posted on 1/7/12
I guess fabregas is held in the same kind of light as alonso at liverpool although alonso was never appreciated until he was gone.
posted on 1/7/12
Winch
Believe me when I tell you that I do not regard him as a legend by any stretch, I think I hinted at that in my article. The reason I seem to be interested is he was the best attacking midfielder I have ever seen play for the club and seeing him being just a squad player is pretty shocking. Even brings the question as to whether he is really happy about things at the moment.
posted on 1/7/12
Winch to put it in a context, its like adoption (kind of)
Barca are the gentic parents, but gave up the child (fabregas)
We (arsenal) adopted him and developed and nurtured him. He eventually left us (the adopted parents) for his biological parents (Barca).
So you can see why we talk about him
posted on 1/7/12
We have a fair few rising stars in the academy. Hopefully we will have a similar success rate to the group that has given us Szczesny, Gibbs, Wilshere, Coquelin, Frimpong, Afobe, Miquel and Bartley.
Martinez, an Argentina keeper, Martin Angha (Swiss CB), Serge Gnabry (German winger) Jon Toral and Hector Bellerin (2 more with Barca DNA) Kristoffer Olssen, to name a few.
You should see all of them in the NextGen competition.
posted on 1/7/12
At barca hes just one of many good midfielders, even busquets is better than most people think as hes just known for his play acting.
posted on 1/7/12
English players
"but Cesc unlike Torres and the Masch left on good terms,"
That is the biggest lie I have seen here for a long time. Cesc forced a move out and made us only get half the amount he was worth. To me that is not on good terms by any means.
posted on 1/7/12
I see fab, how do you rate wilshere compared to fabregas then?
posted on 1/7/12
Barcelona always manage to get cheap fees by tapping up the players basically, cant believe we only got 20m for masch seeing as we paid 18m in the first place. I was under the impression that fabregas forced a move out in a similar fashion to nasri. At liverpool we dont hold a grudge at alonso as we know that although he forced his move out, he felt unwanted as rafa tried to sell him in order to sign gareth barry.
posted on 1/7/12
Winch when he was in the youth team, he played the playmaker. I believe he will do here as well. In his early days (2008-10) he was the playmaker in the youth team
posted on 1/7/12
Winch
Wilshere just like Fabregas has shown immense ability beyond his age but he only lucks the silky skills of the Spaniard because well, he is not really a Latin player. He is more of a deep lying playmaker and if he gets over his injury issues, he might become as important for the club as the Spaniard used to be.
posted on 1/7/12
☺ Wumpatrol ☺ Feeding on wums since 2010 ☻ (U5046)
"Cesc forced a move out and made us only get half the amount he was worth. To me that is not on good terms by any means."
*******************
did the club criticise him?, did he criticise arsenal?
We should have got more money but gazidis is no daniel levy.
Also of course Cesc is happy!
He is playing at a massive club, made plenty of starts, and has won stuff already. And his future looks bright and is firmly part of a future barca midfield with Xavi eventually retiring.
I'm not sure he regrets not staying at arsenal so he can remain trophyless and play with gervinho and chamakh. Sold empty promises of success, and big tranfers only around the corner.
I'm sure he will always remember his time as an arsenal player but feels he made a fantastic decision to move back to barca playing with players who are on his level.
posted on 1/7/12
Winch master (U10228)
Oh yes, I forgot about your relationship with Xabi Alonso.
Alonso still says great things about Liverpool and Cesc has done the same after his mood. But its difficult for him, because barca fans will not appreciate him still talking about arsenal. Sadly [ for us ], both players moved on to bigger and better things, but still hold fond memories.
posted on 1/7/12
Fabregas has a very square head and Pirlos head is too big for his little body.
posted on 1/7/12
Has xavi said hes going to retire or somrething, because I would of thought he still has at least two orthree years at barca
posted on 1/7/12
Winch master (U10228)
He can't last forever winchy, and when he does, cesc will be there
posted on 1/7/12
Barca are ruining Cesc.
posted on 1/7/12
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posted on 1/7/12
Cesc will come back to Arsenal at 28/29.
As for Wilshere - cant believe someone above called him a deep lying playmaker!
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