I thought he did very well. He didnt waste many punches, he connected very well, whilst also keeping a good defence/guard.
I cant see why he cant go far.
Did actually refer and discuss it on the brook v jones article, was a very good performance from him albeit it was against a nobody but he is learning and has to master his skills first ( learning to not get drawn into fights, improving his defence, and perfecting his jab etc ) so it is acceptable that he has to keep fighting these sort of guys at the moment.
Nice guy as well, always cracks me up, just hope he can stay on the right path
The nice thing is that he seems to know he needs to learn these things which is refreshing
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The nice thing is that he seems to know he needs to learn these things which is refreshing
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I agree. But if he could jump into a ring now with one of the Klitschko brothers, he would.
Klitschkos wouldn't fight him, doubt he'd beat them at the moment but he would pose a serious test for them as they would be in the ring with someone who has similar speed, is taller than them, just as powerful as them. Only difference is they are more intelligent, experienced and have been around the block. Would be interesting to see how they cope though with someone they can't lean on and grab hold of
Err Klitschko has already said he expects to fight him next year
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/18768262
Vitali is probably going to retire soon as he said he wont continue boxing if elected to the ukraine parliement.
The Klitschos have never ducked anyone, why would they start with Fury?
If what you are saying is true, then they would both be looking to fight him asap rather than some point in the future, as Fury knows what he needs to work on and is likely to stay at European level in order to work on it and improve.
Personally I could see him having another fight and then stepping up against Price or Helenius.
However neither K brother would duck him, and to suggest that they would shows a real lack of understanding of them as both people and boxers
Mattyp
I dont think anyone is saying the K brothers would "duck him", just that none would be interested whilst he's at the level he is.
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Mattyp
I dont think anyone is saying the K brothers would "duck him", just that none would be interested whilst he's at the level he is.
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
Klitschkos wouldn't fight him
[insert smiley of yellow guy looking up here]
Mattyp,
You might be right, i just took it as in they wouldnt "get" to fight him, not that they "wouldn't".
Maybe 'Chelsea FC 1L 1L 1C' can elabrorate.
The Klitchko's in my opininion would love to fight him asap, before he can gain further experience.
Fury did well in his fight at the weekend, but the truth is he couldn't miss and Vinny's defence was to use his face. Still, technically he looked better and looked far better conditioning wise.
his jab looked much better than i've seen it before and he also looked more patient and picked his shots better
maddalone may have been a stationary target but there were certainly signs of improvement.
They won't fight because there is nothing for them to gain out of it, not to mention Vitali is on a big downward spiral and is finished now.
What do they get out of fighting fury? He has no belts, has never fought anyone of any note. I know they constantly fight bums and nobodies but at least some of the ones they fight have some decent names on it.
Wlad and Vitali constantly fight bums because although the payday isn't the best at least they know it's a easy nights work. Now i'm not for one minute saying Fury has anywhere near the ability of the two of them and as i said above i don't think he would win .... but... he would cause them problems. His taller than them, he can match them for power, he can jab aswell and they can't lean on him. The payday is not worth the risk of them fighting him
Chelsea
What do they get out of fighting fury? He has no belts
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He has the WBO Intercontinental belt.
What that irish belt? Bet the Klitchskos are dreaming of that belt .
Anyway.... What you reckon on the outcome of the Haye/Chisora fight? Can't wait to see DelBoy come out to " Aint toe stopping us now " as well, i knew he'd actually get the word no changed to toe
erm what do they get out of fighting anyone?
They own all the belts, they cant fight anyone for any belt.
And they have fought everyone who has stepped up to fight them.
Its not their fault that they have now beaten everyone who will step in with them.
Wlad has already said he wants to fight Fury, so you saying he will dodge him is stupid.
Also he owns 3 of the major belts, so he has to fight three times as many maditory fights than someone who has one belt.
If you think Wlad will duck Fury, or that he is ducking from anyone of any class then you know nothing about boxing
you want to trade insults with me then fine, as there are plenty of people who come on here to actually talk about boxing with, I can quite easily talk with them
However as Wlad has said he wants to fight Fury then you are blind for saying he is ducking him. Or stupid and unable to understand English.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/18768262
Now go on explain to me how he will dodge him.
Whos trading insults? I just asked if you were blind because you keep getting in a hissy fit and saying people on here are saying wlad is ducking fury when no one has said no such thing.
Its like having a discussion with Karl Pilkington with you.
I have never said anywhere that Wlad will duck fury, i said he wouldn't fight him because there is nothing in it for him and no real point in taking the risk. Choosing not to waste your time fighting someone in a pointless fight is not ducking, so i'm confused as to who you're saying has said wlad is ducking fury.
I hope one of them do end up fighting Fury or Price as it would be nice for them to actually be given a real challenge and test, i'd expect them to still win but at least Fury/Price would have a chance and it would be interesting to see how Wlad manages to cope fighting against someone that isn't some small fat bum that he can lean on the whole fight.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/18768262
Seriously, how many times do I have to show you this link before you get that Wlad will probably fight him in the next year, possible two
You are saying he wont fight, I am showing you proof that he wants to and is aiming to.
Why cant you get that?
And again, he owns every belt possible, so there is no real threat in fighting any of them.
You say he would probably win but wont fight him because its a risk...bubbish pure rubbish thats not how he works, he has fought everyone who has stepped up, suddenly he is going to get cold feet because someone looks like s decent prospect...nah, not a chance
and just out of interest, go on explain how not fighting someone because its too much of a risk is not ducking them?
I actually think this level of fight is too early for him. To be fair though the guy fought chisora at a very young age and early stage of his career so he has taken a big jump before.
As you said he knows and has said he ain't ready for wlad but he would jump at the fight if offered
A link don't mean nothing, Wlad can talk all he wants about fighting fury but untill its a signed deal its still in the air, as seen by Vitali constantly saying he wants / wanted to fight Haye then the fight not happening, same with Pac/Mayweather. Just because a fight doesn't happen doesn't mean someone has ducked the other person.
I've never said Wlad will not end up fighting him, i just said in my opinion i don't think the fight will happen as it is a big risk fighting Fury which it is. And i can see where you're thinking if he doesn't fight Fury because of a risk he is ducking him but there's two different ways.
For example, If he declined to fight fury to fight someone else, a better opponent or a more attractive opponent that would produce a more lucrative fight then i wouldn't class that as ducking i'd just say he was taking the more lucrative and better option.
The fact is, Wlad has never really had anyone to duck anyway, the division is that poor, hence why i feel sorry for the Klitchskos that they are going to have to retire with in reality a poor legacy. They have dominated a poor divison and constantly fight small, slow and overweight bums. Just look at Wlad v Thompson last week, it's just pathetic.
I would have liked to have seen Wlad / Vitali v Valuev but obviously that never happened so i'm hoping before they both end up retiring that one of them fights Price or Fury so we can see how they cope now a days with fighting someone that can provide them a proper challenge - a young up and coming hungry fighter who is of similar height, similar physique and similar technique as opposed to a slow old bum who can easily be leaned on and jabbed to death
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posted on 10/7/12
I thought he did very well. He didnt waste many punches, he connected very well, whilst also keeping a good defence/guard.
I cant see why he cant go far.
posted on 10/7/12
Did actually refer and discuss it on the brook v jones article, was a very good performance from him albeit it was against a nobody but he is learning and has to master his skills first ( learning to not get drawn into fights, improving his defence, and perfecting his jab etc ) so it is acceptable that he has to keep fighting these sort of guys at the moment.
Nice guy as well, always cracks me up, just hope he can stay on the right path
posted on 10/7/12
The nice thing is that he seems to know he needs to learn these things which is refreshing
posted on 11/7/12
super
The nice thing is that he seems to know he needs to learn these things which is refreshing
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I agree. But if he could jump into a ring now with one of the Klitschko brothers, he would.
posted on 11/7/12
Klitschkos wouldn't fight him, doubt he'd beat them at the moment but he would pose a serious test for them as they would be in the ring with someone who has similar speed, is taller than them, just as powerful as them. Only difference is they are more intelligent, experienced and have been around the block. Would be interesting to see how they cope though with someone they can't lean on and grab hold of
posted on 11/7/12
Err Klitschko has already said he expects to fight him next year
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/18768262
Vitali is probably going to retire soon as he said he wont continue boxing if elected to the ukraine parliement.
The Klitschos have never ducked anyone, why would they start with Fury?
If what you are saying is true, then they would both be looking to fight him asap rather than some point in the future, as Fury knows what he needs to work on and is likely to stay at European level in order to work on it and improve.
Personally I could see him having another fight and then stepping up against Price or Helenius.
However neither K brother would duck him, and to suggest that they would shows a real lack of understanding of them as both people and boxers
posted on 11/7/12
Mattyp
I dont think anyone is saying the K brothers would "duck him", just that none would be interested whilst he's at the level he is.
posted on 11/7/12
comment by Chelsea FC 1L 1L 1C (U12980)
comment by Chicken (on a Basketball) ©™ (U1043)
posted 9 minutes ago
Mattyp
I dont think anyone is saying the K brothers would "duck him", just that none would be interested whilst he's at the level he is.
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
Klitschkos wouldn't fight him
[insert smiley of yellow guy looking up here]
posted on 11/7/12
Mattyp,
You might be right, i just took it as in they wouldnt "get" to fight him, not that they "wouldn't".
Maybe 'Chelsea FC 1L 1L 1C' can elabrorate.
posted on 11/7/12
The Klitchko's in my opininion would love to fight him asap, before he can gain further experience.
Fury did well in his fight at the weekend, but the truth is he couldn't miss and Vinny's defence was to use his face. Still, technically he looked better and looked far better conditioning wise.
posted on 11/7/12
his jab looked much better than i've seen it before and he also looked more patient and picked his shots better
maddalone may have been a stationary target but there were certainly signs of improvement.
posted on 11/7/12
They won't fight because there is nothing for them to gain out of it, not to mention Vitali is on a big downward spiral and is finished now.
What do they get out of fighting fury? He has no belts, has never fought anyone of any note. I know they constantly fight bums and nobodies but at least some of the ones they fight have some decent names on it.
Wlad and Vitali constantly fight bums because although the payday isn't the best at least they know it's a easy nights work. Now i'm not for one minute saying Fury has anywhere near the ability of the two of them and as i said above i don't think he would win .... but... he would cause them problems. His taller than them, he can match them for power, he can jab aswell and they can't lean on him. The payday is not worth the risk of them fighting him
posted on 11/7/12
Chelsea
What do they get out of fighting fury? He has no belts
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He has the WBO Intercontinental belt.
posted on 11/7/12
What that irish belt? Bet the Klitchskos are dreaming of that belt .
Anyway.... What you reckon on the outcome of the Haye/Chisora fight? Can't wait to see DelBoy come out to " Aint toe stopping us now " as well, i knew he'd actually get the word no changed to toe
posted on 11/7/12
erm what do they get out of fighting anyone?
They own all the belts, they cant fight anyone for any belt.
And they have fought everyone who has stepped up to fight them.
Its not their fault that they have now beaten everyone who will step in with them.
Wlad has already said he wants to fight Fury, so you saying he will dodge him is stupid.
Also he owns 3 of the major belts, so he has to fight three times as many maditory fights than someone who has one belt.
If you think Wlad will duck Fury, or that he is ducking from anyone of any class then you know nothing about boxing
posted on 11/7/12
Matt are you blind?
posted on 11/7/12
No, but you are.
posted on 11/7/12
posted on 11/7/12
you want to trade insults with me then fine, as there are plenty of people who come on here to actually talk about boxing with, I can quite easily talk with them
However as Wlad has said he wants to fight Fury then you are blind for saying he is ducking him. Or stupid and unable to understand English.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/18768262
Now go on explain to me how he will dodge him.
posted on 11/7/12
Whos trading insults? I just asked if you were blind because you keep getting in a hissy fit and saying people on here are saying wlad is ducking fury when no one has said no such thing.
Its like having a discussion with Karl Pilkington with you.
I have never said anywhere that Wlad will duck fury, i said he wouldn't fight him because there is nothing in it for him and no real point in taking the risk. Choosing not to waste your time fighting someone in a pointless fight is not ducking, so i'm confused as to who you're saying has said wlad is ducking fury.
posted on 11/7/12
I hope one of them do end up fighting Fury or Price as it would be nice for them to actually be given a real challenge and test, i'd expect them to still win but at least Fury/Price would have a chance and it would be interesting to see how Wlad manages to cope fighting against someone that isn't some small fat bum that he can lean on the whole fight.
posted on 11/7/12
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/18768262
Seriously, how many times do I have to show you this link before you get that Wlad will probably fight him in the next year, possible two
You are saying he wont fight, I am showing you proof that he wants to and is aiming to.
Why cant you get that?
And again, he owns every belt possible, so there is no real threat in fighting any of them.
You say he would probably win but wont fight him because its a risk...bubbish pure rubbish thats not how he works, he has fought everyone who has stepped up, suddenly he is going to get cold feet because someone looks like s decent prospect...nah, not a chance
posted on 11/7/12
and just out of interest, go on explain how not fighting someone because its too much of a risk is not ducking them?
posted on 11/7/12
I actually think this level of fight is too early for him. To be fair though the guy fought chisora at a very young age and early stage of his career so he has taken a big jump before.
As you said he knows and has said he ain't ready for wlad but he would jump at the fight if offered
posted on 11/7/12
A link don't mean nothing, Wlad can talk all he wants about fighting fury but untill its a signed deal its still in the air, as seen by Vitali constantly saying he wants / wanted to fight Haye then the fight not happening, same with Pac/Mayweather. Just because a fight doesn't happen doesn't mean someone has ducked the other person.
I've never said Wlad will not end up fighting him, i just said in my opinion i don't think the fight will happen as it is a big risk fighting Fury which it is. And i can see where you're thinking if he doesn't fight Fury because of a risk he is ducking him but there's two different ways.
For example, If he declined to fight fury to fight someone else, a better opponent or a more attractive opponent that would produce a more lucrative fight then i wouldn't class that as ducking i'd just say he was taking the more lucrative and better option.
The fact is, Wlad has never really had anyone to duck anyway, the division is that poor, hence why i feel sorry for the Klitchskos that they are going to have to retire with in reality a poor legacy. They have dominated a poor divison and constantly fight small, slow and overweight bums. Just look at Wlad v Thompson last week, it's just pathetic.
I would have liked to have seen Wlad / Vitali v Valuev but obviously that never happened so i'm hoping before they both end up retiring that one of them fights Price or Fury so we can see how they cope now a days with fighting someone that can provide them a proper challenge - a young up and coming hungry fighter who is of similar height, similar physique and similar technique as opposed to a slow old bum who can easily be leaned on and jabbed to death
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