The creationists try and subsume scientific words so that they sound more reasoned, it's an old tactic. What happens when time doesn't exist? Crazy physics. That's about it. The god squad cannot prove their god exists, the scientists cannot prove that 'god' doesn't exist, however, the scientists can prove physics and chemistry, there's a big difference there.
I am a firm non-believer, I refuse to believe in any god, christianity, judaism, islam, all spring from the same area, backgrounds (abraham) and they all contain a bunch of stories designed to manipulate how people think and behave, the devil didn't exist until some desperate cleric needed a balance against the glory of of his alleged god.
You don't need religion to teach you how to be good and do good things, just good people.
God is a myth.
Got the cold. Two colds back to back, so im not good for much in the way of going into the office. Admin2 and I will probably aim for Thursday as office day.
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It's interesting that people use the "you can't possibly know that" article.
We don't know about the big bang, or about evolution but we have faith in those scientific theories (I do by the way).
It's the same as people having faith in religious beliefs.
It says in the Bible, Qu'ran, Torah etc about tolerance - wars are because of people not religion. People's misinterpretation of what is written down.
"You don't need religion to teach you how to be good and do good things, just good people."
Good in who's eyes? Your own. Osama Bin Laden thinks he's doing good by getting rid of infidels, doesn't mean he's right.
bitterpool, no worries i'll close it and leave you with this account
God is a myth.
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HERETIC
BURN HIM
BURN HIM
BURN HIM
BURN HIM
the scientists can prove physics and chemistry
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There are many many unanswered questions in those areas. We don't know far more than we do know in those areas.
zeitgeist has an intresting spin on religion for the opening 20 minutes, worth a watch.
We don't know far more than we do know in those areas
To quote Donald Rumsfeld, "we don't know wha we don't know"
To quote Donald Rumsfeld, "we don't know wha we don't know"
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Reggie's comment is just as close minded as the religious nutjobs he's referring to!
it is possible to know what you dont know though.
it is possible to know what you dont know though.
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Admin 1 - Just ordered the book on your recommendation..... If it's herecy, you'll burn in Sportingwitness.........
comment by His Younger Bruv Is Meant To Be Even Better (U15219)
Thats pretty much the Romans tactics wasnt it haha... Amongst various religons haha!
comment by JPB 60m Olympic Gold medal winner http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-7Vu7cqB20 (U1059)
posted 2 minutes ago
To quote Donald Rumsfeld, "we don't know wha we don't know"
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Do you remember him saying it? One of the most mind numbing comments from a politician ever!
Biggla . I didn't say my taste in books was good.
I didn't refer to anyone as a nutjob. I lived a number of years being open-minded, now I have made a choice, just as anyone who believes in religion does.
And of course there is the fact that these gods if they existed are pretty rubbish, what with all of the very bad stuff going on in the world, despite all of the faith put in them.
And using osama binladen fred, come on, dude, you could've easily used a catholic priest.
here's don trying to explain it :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RpSv3HjpEw
Redinthehead, wasn't Rumsfeld banging on about known unknowns and unknown unknowns?
the scientists can prove physics and chemistry
__________________________________________
We are only just getting to grips with the repelling currents of Dark energy and the Binding forces of Darkl Matter! Who knows where they came from lol?
Then the infamous Higgs Bosom project... There are so many unanswered Q's mate!
Is it not reasonable to suggest that many people who believe in religion are simply afraid to accept their own mortality?
E.g - your father dies, but now he is in a better place. Or simply 'somebody to talk to' in difficult times.
For me, it seems 'god' is nothing more than a route to a positive state of mind.
it's obvious what a known unknown is (eg i know i dont know if there's a god).
unknown unknown's are a bit more difficult.
it works better with risks. known risks and unknown risks. you dont know how any risks will turn out, but you are at least aware of some risks, whilst also being aware that there other (unknown - or unidentified) risks, will enivitably be encountered.
I didn't refer to anyone as a nutjob. I lived a number of years being open-minded, now I have made a choice, just as anyone who believes in religion does.
And of course there is the fact that these gods if they existed are pretty rubbish, what with all of the very bad stuff going on in the world, despite all of the faith put in them.
And using osama binladen fred, come on, dude, you could've easily used a catholic priest.
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Can't argue with the first part
Second comment I've already answered.
"And using osama binladen fred, come on, dude, you could've easily used a catholic priest."
Did I say these catholic priests molesting children were any different, no?
People can be good in their own eyes very easily. But at the end of the day (according again to the scriptures, I don't necessarily believe it) being "good" in God's eye is what's important.
Well I think I can spare the €3.41 to find out! If not, I still have "The Universe in a nutshell" to get through. I found with "A brief history of time" that you need to be sober to read these books. I bought Universe about 6 years ago. Not sure what that says about my spare time.........
1manontherun, of course but you're talking about the pinnacle of our understanding of our world about us, what about all of the other things that we do actually know because of science.
The other thing is, scientists know there is far more to be learnt out there, you do know that there is a rover heading towards mars right now? It wasn't god that put it there, it was physics, mathematics and solid engineering.
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posted on 31/7/12
The creationists try and subsume scientific words so that they sound more reasoned, it's an old tactic. What happens when time doesn't exist? Crazy physics. That's about it. The god squad cannot prove their god exists, the scientists cannot prove that 'god' doesn't exist, however, the scientists can prove physics and chemistry, there's a big difference there.
I am a firm non-believer, I refuse to believe in any god, christianity, judaism, islam, all spring from the same area, backgrounds (abraham) and they all contain a bunch of stories designed to manipulate how people think and behave, the devil didn't exist until some desperate cleric needed a balance against the glory of of his alleged god.
You don't need religion to teach you how to be good and do good things, just good people.
God is a myth.
posted on 31/7/12
Got the cold. Two colds back to back, so im not good for much in the way of going into the office. Admin2 and I will probably aim for Thursday as office day.
posted on 31/7/12
Audio books
It's interesting that people use the "you can't possibly know that" article.
We don't know about the big bang, or about evolution but we have faith in those scientific theories (I do by the way).
It's the same as people having faith in religious beliefs.
It says in the Bible, Qu'ran, Torah etc about tolerance - wars are because of people not religion. People's misinterpretation of what is written down.
"You don't need religion to teach you how to be good and do good things, just good people."
Good in who's eyes? Your own. Osama Bin Laden thinks he's doing good by getting rid of infidels, doesn't mean he's right.
posted on 31/7/12
bitterpool, no worries i'll close it and leave you with this account
posted on 31/7/12
God is a myth.
=============
HERETIC
BURN HIM
BURN HIM
BURN HIM
BURN HIM
posted on 31/7/12
the scientists can prove physics and chemistry
___________________________________________-
There are many many unanswered questions in those areas. We don't know far more than we do know in those areas.
posted on 31/7/12
zeitgeist has an intresting spin on religion for the opening 20 minutes, worth a watch.
posted on 31/7/12
We don't know far more than we do know in those areas
To quote Donald Rumsfeld, "we don't know wha we don't know"
posted on 31/7/12
To quote Donald Rumsfeld, "we don't know wha we don't know"
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posted on 31/7/12
Reggie's comment is just as close minded as the religious nutjobs he's referring to!
posted on 31/7/12
it is possible to know what you dont know though.
posted on 31/7/12
it is possible to know what you dont know though.
_____________________________
Ok, I'm lost.
posted on 31/7/12
Admin 1 - Just ordered the book on your recommendation..... If it's herecy, you'll burn in Sportingwitness.........
posted on 31/7/12
comment by His Younger Bruv Is Meant To Be Even Better (U15219)
Thats pretty much the Romans tactics wasnt it haha... Amongst various religons haha!
posted on 31/7/12
comment by JPB 60m Olympic Gold medal winner http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-7Vu7cqB20 (U1059)
posted 2 minutes ago
To quote Donald Rumsfeld, "we don't know wha we don't know"
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Do you remember him saying it? One of the most mind numbing comments from a politician ever!
posted on 31/7/12
Biggla . I didn't say my taste in books was good.
posted on 31/7/12
I didn't refer to anyone as a nutjob. I lived a number of years being open-minded, now I have made a choice, just as anyone who believes in religion does.
And of course there is the fact that these gods if they existed are pretty rubbish, what with all of the very bad stuff going on in the world, despite all of the faith put in them.
And using osama binladen fred, come on, dude, you could've easily used a catholic priest.
posted on 31/7/12
here's don trying to explain it :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RpSv3HjpEw
posted on 31/7/12
Redinthehead, wasn't Rumsfeld banging on about known unknowns and unknown unknowns?
posted on 31/7/12
the scientists can prove physics and chemistry
__________________________________________
We are only just getting to grips with the repelling currents of Dark energy and the Binding forces of Darkl Matter! Who knows where they came from lol?
Then the infamous Higgs Bosom project... There are so many unanswered Q's mate!
posted on 31/7/12
Is it not reasonable to suggest that many people who believe in religion are simply afraid to accept their own mortality?
E.g - your father dies, but now he is in a better place. Or simply 'somebody to talk to' in difficult times.
For me, it seems 'god' is nothing more than a route to a positive state of mind.
posted on 31/7/12
it's obvious what a known unknown is (eg i know i dont know if there's a god).
unknown unknown's are a bit more difficult.
it works better with risks. known risks and unknown risks. you dont know how any risks will turn out, but you are at least aware of some risks, whilst also being aware that there other (unknown - or unidentified) risks, will enivitably be encountered.
posted on 31/7/12
I didn't refer to anyone as a nutjob. I lived a number of years being open-minded, now I have made a choice, just as anyone who believes in religion does.
And of course there is the fact that these gods if they existed are pretty rubbish, what with all of the very bad stuff going on in the world, despite all of the faith put in them.
And using osama binladen fred, come on, dude, you could've easily used a catholic priest.
____________________________________
Can't argue with the first part
Second comment I've already answered.
"And using osama binladen fred, come on, dude, you could've easily used a catholic priest."
Did I say these catholic priests molesting children were any different, no?
People can be good in their own eyes very easily. But at the end of the day (according again to the scriptures, I don't necessarily believe it) being "good" in God's eye is what's important.
posted on 31/7/12
Well I think I can spare the €3.41 to find out! If not, I still have "The Universe in a nutshell" to get through. I found with "A brief history of time" that you need to be sober to read these books. I bought Universe about 6 years ago. Not sure what that says about my spare time.........
posted on 31/7/12
1manontherun, of course but you're talking about the pinnacle of our understanding of our world about us, what about all of the other things that we do actually know because of science.
The other thing is, scientists know there is far more to be learnt out there, you do know that there is a rover heading towards mars right now? It wasn't god that put it there, it was physics, mathematics and solid engineering.
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