I've heard he's packed the whole year in....
I had a feeling his season would be pretty much finished after losing to Rosol at Wimbledon
Its a repeat of 09 all over again
tbh, I am not missing him. I'm not even noticing he's not around just great....
Veejay, just had a look at some of the video clips I took when I went to Olympics final and was reminded of stg I wanted to mention: did you notice how Murray deliberately sat on his chair and kept Fed waiting at the net before the coin toss?I didn't like it in the least.
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Looks like El Toro's poor sportsmanship and other tactics have rubbed off on the Scott
Now Murray is claiming to also have a knee injury
Back to the topic...Im not missing him at all either
Its been refreshing to have tournaments without the all the drama from the drama queen,Its been a wonderful summer without him...I hope this continues
Vee-Jay, another negative articel/post on a tennis player. This time regrding the great Raffa!
Who is your favourite Tennis player, if any. I only ever see you posting negative comments on players.
If you do reply, please dont make it a long winded reply, you know i get easily bored attempting to read your posts.
i'm guessing it's not Murray or Nadal Logie
@ Logie B
Veejay isn't here but, let me try to answer your questions.
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another negative articel/post on a tennis player. This time regrding the great Raffa!
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What negative? Veejay just posted the fact that Nadal withdrew from Cincinnati. Do you want to say this is incorrect?
If you think Raffa is so great, then good for you. Why does veejay or anyone too has to feel the same way?
@Who is your favourite Tennis player, if any. I only ever see you posting negative comments on players.
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You think its impossible for anyone not to have any favorite tennis player but still watch and enjoy tennis? What does it matter if his favorite tennis player is Jelena Dokic? If you don't see any negative about Nadal, counter what veejay posts with your reasons. He posts what he sees. If can counter it, do it and do it while trying not to make yourself look stupid.
@If you do reply, please dont make it a long winded reply, you know i get easily bored attempting to read your posts.
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Do you think your short itzi-bitzi replies are very interesting to read?
What negative? Veejay just posted the fact that Nadal withdrew from Cincinnati. Do you want to say this is incorrect?
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You obviously get bored reading his commetns as well ROTLA. Otherwise you would had read the negative comments after that
Also, no, i dont think its impossible for somone not to have a favourite tennis player, but making continuos negative posts get a bit repetive, hence the reason for the question. Im sure even you can make sense of that!
There are alot of people on here that like to trash talk one of the greatest players ever to play the game just because they dont like him. Do they believe what they type, NO, of course they dont, they are just spitefull, un interesting people, who can only get there kicks hiding behind a screen and keyboard!
People can have opinions but they have to be honest with themselves before they put them out there!
You want to accuse a poster for giving an opinion. He said he is not missing Nadal. So what's wrong with that?
He said about Nadal's poor sportsmanship. He said about Nadal's tactics. So why don't you counter him and show how great Nadal's sportsmanship is. Why didn't you reply to the gamesman tactics Nadal and his team uses in matches. All you can do is call it 'trash'. Where is your point to show Nadal's great sportsmanship? Get those and then throw off veejay's point as 'trash'. Until you do that, shut it.
Talking negative gets repetitive? Isn't haling Nadal all the time as "one of great players ever" , "great Rafa" becomes repetitive? What have you been doing other than repeatedly using this silly "repetitive" line in your comments.
Veejay is very honest in his posting. Time you too come clean.
He said about Nadal's poor sportsmanship. He said about Nadal's tactics. So why don't you counter him and show how great Nadal's sportsmanship is. Why didn't you reply to the gamesman tactics Nadal and his team uses in matches. All you can do is call it 'trash'. Where is your point to show Nadal's great sportsmanship? Get those and then throw off veejay's point as 'trash'. Until you do that, shut it.
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What are the 'gamesman tactics' he uses that others dont do? Sorry Veejay, you or any other 'Rafa hater' is not a honest poster, rather you are biased and highly hypocritical. It was only on Sunday that we saw Federer sulking and insulting the umpire because things were not going his way, im sure if that was Rafa hell would let loose.
And i get why he gets hated here by Fed fans, it is not because of his 'gamesmanship' or 'tactics', it is only because he has a stronger head to head record over Fed and he is known as one of the greatest of all time.
How many times have we seen Murray feign a back injury when he looses a crucial point but dosent when he wins one? No one says anything about it, because it is 'only' Murray, how many times have we seen Djokovic taking ages to serve? no one really says anything here, because apparently, Djokovic is their only hope of beating Rafa so he gets a free pass.
Dont even talk about 'honesty' here, cos you guys are far from being fair.
Once again you prove your ignorance. Well done
As for hailing Raffa as one of the greatest, well that's easy, especially as its true. What you and your crony talk is just utter TRASH! Always bad mouthing people.
As for telling me to shut up, well that's easy to say hiding behind a keyboard acting nice and brave.
Do you play such an unimportant role in society that you feel the need to come on here and spout constant rubbish, does it make you feel noticed and needed?
@ LogieB
You get so bored reading my comments that you've spend the best part of a glorious day posting pathetic stuff on my thread
It good to know I get under your skin so much that you just cant help yourself
@(U13809)
Why don't you direct that at CaledonianCraig,Im sure he will appreciate your input
@ROTLA
Whatever the case may be I am certain theres no way El Toro is still injured,if he was ever injured at all.The last time he withdrew citing injury was @ Miami,he was back on tour within 3 weeks,just in time for the clay season,cause as we all know he is never injured during the clay season
But yet this time he's out on a similar injury for almost 2 months-weird
The most remarkable thing about that was that he not only managed to recover and rehabilitate his knee injury,he returned to tour with a significantly improved serve
Must have taken hours of practice to improve a serve like that,he couldnt improve it to such degree for much of 2011,but yet he did it this time in under 3 weeks on injured/recovering knees.Phenomenal stuff
Should be interesting to see what happened when he returns at the U.S Open
@logie
And once again you proved you know nothing more hailing Rafa. You didn't say why you gave me the ignorance remark, but I'll show you why you get this remark from me.
@As for hailing Raffa as one of the greatest, well that's easy, especially as its true.
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1. Was it the topic of discussion how easy or how true it is? Try to understand what you are writing. It was how "repetitive" it was. and you again proved in your own comment that your own comments are "repetitive" and you know nothing more than hailing Rafa. You just did that.
I asked you to shut up till you find points to counter's Veejay's comment about Nadal's poor sportmanship and gamesmanship tactics instead of calling it trash. Did you find any? Of course not. You don't have any because you don't know anything better. Again the reason why I commented on you.
3. If i'm hiding behind a keyboard, so are you, isn't it? Why talk nonsense about being nice and brave.
4. Spouting rubbish? If anyone is spouting rubbish here, its you.
Hi rotla, why waste your time with someone on a tennis forum who cannot discuss tennis?
Hi Vee-Jay! I can see where you are coming from when it comes to being suspicious about Rafa's (@logieB, it's one f in Rafa by the way, if you hail the guy that much at least spell his name properly ) and even though some don't share your viewpoint (I know I am not one of those as I do share it) they should/could at least recognize there is something of too many coincidences at least. I even read some comments about 2009 and a certain agency that was allowed to test players at the FO on that year only, etc. I even read someone claiming to work closely with ATP etc. who reported about some talks between them and the Nadal camp but as it was on a forum, no-one can say who is writing the truth and who are just trying to create a climate of suspicion but there are clearly some strange coincidences if someone think Rafa is 100% pure and innocent, to say the least. Furthermore, I find it strange all these people trying to defend him like he is part of their family when his on-court behavior is appaling. We can criticize any of the top player for whatever reason we like, even Fed, but he can seem as arrogant (most of the time he is just saying things as he sees it) in off-court interviews as he wants, on-court his behavior is as good as it can get and at least he doesn't play outside of the rules, contrary to Nadal...
" (@logieB,if you hail the guy that much at least spell his name properly"
@ sphairistike
Good points
There are a lot of similarities between Nadals 09 season this current season,and that in itself is very strange.How can an early loss in a major result in such similar almost identical circumstances.In both cases there was no clear visible evidence of Nadals tendonitis holding him back,it was as usual only used as an excuse once he lost.
I personally believe there is a lot more to the story then meets the eye,I have no proof so its all just speculation but I just wont buy the story that he is still out due to tendonitis
I have said this before,none of the players are entirely innocent,they have all done things from time to time that can be frowned upon,so they all come under criticism for that but none of the other players are an opportunist for an unfair advantage at every given opportunity like Nadal.Forget about everything else he does,just look at how he gets coached by his uncle in almost every single match.
This is why I am finding it such a pleasure to watch tennis this summer,the game has been a lot fairer for all the other players without him and his cheating ways
Interesting topic by Paul
http://ourtennisforum.forumotion.co.uk/t50-top-4-before-uso
"this chicken player "
I thought he was El Toro
Looks like El Toro's poor sportsmanship and other tactics have rubbed off on the Scott
Now Murray is claiming to also have a knee injury
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Another nonsensical comment.
@ Jonty
(U13809) is right,if we are going to criticise Nadal for his poor sportsmanship then we have to be fair and look at other players too
As Tommy Haas pointed out,Murray milks his injuries for all its worth,he's as big a ham as Babe
When I said El Toros tactics rubbed off on Murray,you cant deny that Nadal was the first to come out an defend Murray when he was being criticised by Haas.Very nonsensical indeed...
Sorry vee jay your comments are just rabid nonsense today.
Explain to me why Nadal came to Murray's defence
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posted on 10/8/12
I've heard he's packed the whole year in....
posted on 10/8/12
I had a feeling his season would be pretty much finished after losing to Rosol at Wimbledon
Its a repeat of 09 all over again
posted on 10/8/12
tbh, I am not missing him. I'm not even noticing he's not around just great....
Veejay, just had a look at some of the video clips I took when I went to Olympics final and was reminded of stg I wanted to mention: did you notice how Murray deliberately sat on his chair and kept Fed waiting at the net before the coin toss?I didn't like it in the least.
posted on 10/8/12
Comment deleted by Article Creator
posted on 10/8/12
Looks like El Toro's poor sportsmanship and other tactics have rubbed off on the Scott
Now Murray is claiming to also have a knee injury
Back to the topic...Im not missing him at all either
Its been refreshing to have tournaments without the all the drama from the drama queen,Its been a wonderful summer without him...I hope this continues
posted on 11/8/12
Vee-Jay, another negative articel/post on a tennis player. This time regrding the great Raffa!
Who is your favourite Tennis player, if any. I only ever see you posting negative comments on players.
If you do reply, please dont make it a long winded reply, you know i get easily bored attempting to read your posts.
posted on 11/8/12
i'm guessing it's not Murray or Nadal Logie
posted on 11/8/12
@ Logie B
Veejay isn't here but, let me try to answer your questions.
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another negative articel/post on a tennis player. This time regrding the great Raffa!
--------------
What negative? Veejay just posted the fact that Nadal withdrew from Cincinnati. Do you want to say this is incorrect?
If you think Raffa is so great, then good for you. Why does veejay or anyone too has to feel the same way?
@Who is your favourite Tennis player, if any. I only ever see you posting negative comments on players.
-----------------------------------------
You think its impossible for anyone not to have any favorite tennis player but still watch and enjoy tennis? What does it matter if his favorite tennis player is Jelena Dokic? If you don't see any negative about Nadal, counter what veejay posts with your reasons. He posts what he sees. If can counter it, do it and do it while trying not to make yourself look stupid.
@If you do reply, please dont make it a long winded reply, you know i get easily bored attempting to read your posts.
---------------------------------
Do you think your short itzi-bitzi replies are very interesting to read?
posted on 11/8/12
What negative? Veejay just posted the fact that Nadal withdrew from Cincinnati. Do you want to say this is incorrect?
......................
You obviously get bored reading his commetns as well ROTLA. Otherwise you would had read the negative comments after that
Also, no, i dont think its impossible for somone not to have a favourite tennis player, but making continuos negative posts get a bit repetive, hence the reason for the question. Im sure even you can make sense of that!
There are alot of people on here that like to trash talk one of the greatest players ever to play the game just because they dont like him. Do they believe what they type, NO, of course they dont, they are just spitefull, un interesting people, who can only get there kicks hiding behind a screen and keyboard!
People can have opinions but they have to be honest with themselves before they put them out there!
posted on 11/8/12
You want to accuse a poster for giving an opinion. He said he is not missing Nadal. So what's wrong with that?
He said about Nadal's poor sportsmanship. He said about Nadal's tactics. So why don't you counter him and show how great Nadal's sportsmanship is. Why didn't you reply to the gamesman tactics Nadal and his team uses in matches. All you can do is call it 'trash'. Where is your point to show Nadal's great sportsmanship? Get those and then throw off veejay's point as 'trash'. Until you do that, shut it.
Talking negative gets repetitive? Isn't haling Nadal all the time as "one of great players ever" , "great Rafa" becomes repetitive? What have you been doing other than repeatedly using this silly "repetitive" line in your comments.
Veejay is very honest in his posting. Time you too come clean.
posted on 11/8/12
He said about Nadal's poor sportsmanship. He said about Nadal's tactics. So why don't you counter him and show how great Nadal's sportsmanship is. Why didn't you reply to the gamesman tactics Nadal and his team uses in matches. All you can do is call it 'trash'. Where is your point to show Nadal's great sportsmanship? Get those and then throw off veejay's point as 'trash'. Until you do that, shut it.
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What are the 'gamesman tactics' he uses that others dont do? Sorry Veejay, you or any other 'Rafa hater' is not a honest poster, rather you are biased and highly hypocritical. It was only on Sunday that we saw Federer sulking and insulting the umpire because things were not going his way, im sure if that was Rafa hell would let loose.
And i get why he gets hated here by Fed fans, it is not because of his 'gamesmanship' or 'tactics', it is only because he has a stronger head to head record over Fed and he is known as one of the greatest of all time.
How many times have we seen Murray feign a back injury when he looses a crucial point but dosent when he wins one? No one says anything about it, because it is 'only' Murray, how many times have we seen Djokovic taking ages to serve? no one really says anything here, because apparently, Djokovic is their only hope of beating Rafa so he gets a free pass.
Dont even talk about 'honesty' here, cos you guys are far from being fair.
posted on 11/8/12
Once again you prove your ignorance. Well done
As for hailing Raffa as one of the greatest, well that's easy, especially as its true. What you and your crony talk is just utter TRASH! Always bad mouthing people.
As for telling me to shut up, well that's easy to say hiding behind a keyboard acting nice and brave.
Do you play such an unimportant role in society that you feel the need to come on here and spout constant rubbish, does it make you feel noticed and needed?
posted on 11/8/12
@ LogieB
You get so bored reading my comments that you've spend the best part of a glorious day posting pathetic stuff on my thread
It good to know I get under your skin so much that you just cant help yourself
@(U13809)
Why don't you direct that at CaledonianCraig,Im sure he will appreciate your input
@ROTLA
Whatever the case may be I am certain theres no way El Toro is still injured,if he was ever injured at all.The last time he withdrew citing injury was @ Miami,he was back on tour within 3 weeks,just in time for the clay season,cause as we all know he is never injured during the clay season
But yet this time he's out on a similar injury for almost 2 months-weird
The most remarkable thing about that was that he not only managed to recover and rehabilitate his knee injury,he returned to tour with a significantly improved serve
Must have taken hours of practice to improve a serve like that,he couldnt improve it to such degree for much of 2011,but yet he did it this time in under 3 weeks on injured/recovering knees.Phenomenal stuff
Should be interesting to see what happened when he returns at the U.S Open
posted on 11/8/12
@logie
And once again you proved you know nothing more hailing Rafa. You didn't say why you gave me the ignorance remark, but I'll show you why you get this remark from me.
@As for hailing Raffa as one of the greatest, well that's easy, especially as its true.
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1. Was it the topic of discussion how easy or how true it is? Try to understand what you are writing. It was how "repetitive" it was. and you again proved in your own comment that your own comments are "repetitive" and you know nothing more than hailing Rafa. You just did that.
I asked you to shut up till you find points to counter's Veejay's comment about Nadal's poor sportmanship and gamesmanship tactics instead of calling it trash. Did you find any? Of course not. You don't have any because you don't know anything better. Again the reason why I commented on you.
3. If i'm hiding behind a keyboard, so are you, isn't it? Why talk nonsense about being nice and brave.
4. Spouting rubbish? If anyone is spouting rubbish here, its you.
posted on 11/8/12
Hi rotla, why waste your time with someone on a tennis forum who cannot discuss tennis?
posted on 11/8/12
Hi Vee-Jay! I can see where you are coming from when it comes to being suspicious about Rafa's (@logieB, it's one f in Rafa by the way, if you hail the guy that much at least spell his name properly ) and even though some don't share your viewpoint (I know I am not one of those as I do share it) they should/could at least recognize there is something of too many coincidences at least. I even read some comments about 2009 and a certain agency that was allowed to test players at the FO on that year only, etc. I even read someone claiming to work closely with ATP etc. who reported about some talks between them and the Nadal camp but as it was on a forum, no-one can say who is writing the truth and who are just trying to create a climate of suspicion but there are clearly some strange coincidences if someone think Rafa is 100% pure and innocent, to say the least. Furthermore, I find it strange all these people trying to defend him like he is part of their family when his on-court behavior is appaling. We can criticize any of the top player for whatever reason we like, even Fed, but he can seem as arrogant (most of the time he is just saying things as he sees it) in off-court interviews as he wants, on-court his behavior is as good as it can get and at least he doesn't play outside of the rules, contrary to Nadal...
posted on 11/8/12
" (@logieB,if you hail the guy that much at least spell his name properly"
@ sphairistike
Good points
There are a lot of similarities between Nadals 09 season this current season,and that in itself is very strange.How can an early loss in a major result in such similar almost identical circumstances.In both cases there was no clear visible evidence of Nadals tendonitis holding him back,it was as usual only used as an excuse once he lost.
I personally believe there is a lot more to the story then meets the eye,I have no proof so its all just speculation but I just wont buy the story that he is still out due to tendonitis
I have said this before,none of the players are entirely innocent,they have all done things from time to time that can be frowned upon,so they all come under criticism for that but none of the other players are an opportunist for an unfair advantage at every given opportunity like Nadal.Forget about everything else he does,just look at how he gets coached by his uncle in almost every single match.
This is why I am finding it such a pleasure to watch tennis this summer,the game has been a lot fairer for all the other players without him and his cheating ways
posted on 11/8/12
Interesting topic by Paul
http://ourtennisforum.forumotion.co.uk/t50-top-4-before-uso
posted on 11/8/12
"this chicken player "
I thought he was El Toro
posted on 13/8/12
Looks like El Toro's poor sportsmanship and other tactics have rubbed off on the Scott
Now Murray is claiming to also have a knee injury
-------------------
Another nonsensical comment.
posted on 13/8/12
@ Jonty
(U13809) is right,if we are going to criticise Nadal for his poor sportsmanship then we have to be fair and look at other players too
As Tommy Haas pointed out,Murray milks his injuries for all its worth,he's as big a ham as Babe
When I said El Toros tactics rubbed off on Murray,you cant deny that Nadal was the first to come out an defend Murray when he was being criticised by Haas.Very nonsensical indeed...
posted on 13/8/12
Sorry vee jay your comments are just rabid nonsense today.
posted on 13/8/12
Explain to me why Nadal came to Murray's defence
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