I think blindy backing any manager is stupid.

It happened with grayson and Look what he left.

A manager always needs to be scrutinized, tatics always need to be questioned if look wrong, bad signings needs to pointed out.

But I agree, it does look like people are hoping him to fail, which is sad.

For me, he's the right man for the job

but thats not to say ive not been disappointed with how he's managed at times

LIW - agree on the blindly backing front ala Grayson.

However, my point is that NW hasn't really begun as yet& deserves a fair crack of the whip.

As such, in the early stages especially he should get our full support.

Benny



NW has achieved a measure of success in this division and as such deserves our respect for wanting to continue this record with Leeds United.

Grayson (under Bates) was attacked as a matter of course by those who assume that Leeds Utd have a right to be successful. Grayson could turn out to be very successful with Huddersfield given the level of support he recieves from the club.

There are at least a dozen clubs who "expect" to be promoted this season and that is the way of football.

We all love the game and support our club. We all have opinions and have a forum to sprout them out.

One thing we all surely want is for Leeds Utd to move forward and hopefully upward. NW has the same ambition and we must support him and the club in a positive manner.

The bloke has been working with his hands tied behind his back. he gets promises from the old shyster which don't happen. He's then told not to worry because the clubs being sold and everything will work out. The T/O falters for nearly 3-months and he's still trying his best to bring in top players, and then he's told the deals off and to sell if he wants to bring anyone else in.

I'm not thinking about his performance at the end of last season, because it was obvious to all of us, never mind him that some of our players were shhyte and needed to be gone. Yes he's had to go back on a few things he's said in the press, but ffs things are changing every day at the club and he doesn't know what will happen the next day.

I'm giving him time to establish his team, and has tactics before I dump on him and everyone else should too.

he's been in bed with the devil and the devils son has now joined the club, and I guess he's had to bite his tongue because he knows we're lacking that bit extra which spit could bring. he's doing it for the club, the fans and yes for himself because he wants promotion, and I don't give a toss how he does it as long as he does it.

Give him a break until he messes up

Benny

I agree, got to fully get our backing, and if we get beat against wolves that doesnt change. Got to be given a good length of time.

But if I think if he's signed a donkey, which I do in Drury, am going speak my mind

Grayson could turn out to be very successful with Huddersfield given the level of support he recieves from the club.
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His budget his lower than what he had at Leeds.

And the knives are already out for him there,

LIW - i hear what ur saying - my eyebrows were raised so high when Gray signed that they fellow off and i'm now left with pencil lines courtesy of Mrs Benny !

However, i reserve my judgement & have greater faith in NW because of his proven track record of creating successful sides with players that many would consider journeymen.

Clint hill, Shaun Derry etc

I don't think there are any posters on ja606 that want Warnock to fail.

Benny - Whe Grayson was sacked, the reason given was that the club felt that we had more chance of promotion with that squad under Warnock as he would get better out of them. That clearly did not happen - he took that team backwards. Why should we place our trust in him after his shocking results and the way he has us playing?

Mate of mine supports Colchester and when we played them in League 1 I asked him how could he watch that long-ball football week in week out - guess we are about to find out

Lets turn this into the usual Grayson bashing shall we!..

Forget one thing not while your all so busy banging him, Warnock hasn't had what he was promised when he came to us, and he's also lost out on players that a team like Leeds United with the right people at the helm should be getting and holding onto!..

The same will go for any manager at our club, because whoever might be in the hot seat at Elland Road, like I've said so many times before, the man upstairs said the team would pay for itselfe, a shame he never said the money the team makes "for itselfe" would first pass through his hands!..

A load of balls always pushing it at the last manager, remember, when Grayson came so many on here shot off about Mac, easy to blame the manager, but just as easy to give him the right backing!.

YW - people who keep harking back to the last dozen games of last season are blinkered - it wasn't NW's squad bcuz why else has he made such wholesale changes?

Presumably, ur a football purist & have no intention of supporting NW which is of course your prerogative altho, one has to remember where we are & what we currently have else, there is a danger of fantasy.

Benny - not a great Warnock fan, but a massive Leeds fan. I enjoy watching football played the right way - and we are a long way off of that. If we get promotion by playing the "hit them hard and lump it way" like West Ham did last season under Allardyce, we are going to get a severe reality check in the promised land (as West Ham will this season).

Norwich and Southampton have done it the right way - that is the rioute I would like us to take.

Germany - Warnock has got exactly what he was promised - he's signed a completely new squad

YW When Grayson was sacked Bates put NR in charge because he was hoping to do it on the cheap, which didn't work did it. Warnock came in after NR had failed over 4 games. I wasn't too pleased about him putting Clayton on the list, but I think he's more than replaced him already and he's the manager and knows more than we do, even though we like to think we know best.

I'll call for his head if fails, but give him a chance first

Long ball am totally against.

But direct football am not, and find it the most exciting.

Ie get it out quickly to the wingers,( not big hoof) and get balls into the box and cause some havic.

Abit like wilko early doors.

I hated watching Leeds in several matches at the end of last season (Watford springs to mind as one of those awful matches), where Lonergan just hit the ball long to Becchio at every opportunity. Yet i love watching Stoke play, especially at the Brittania where the atmosphere is fantastic. Maybe that's just because they are successful at it and can get a result against any side.
Hopefully with a squad assembled by Warnock we will get the results, and then i certainly won't care what the style of play is like.

"Germany - Warnock has got exactly what he was promised - he's signed a completely new squad"

YW, Warnock has not got what he wanted, he wanted players in before his hol's, he didn't get them, he was promised backing from upstairs to get what he wanted, the main man he wanted to build around isn't there anymore, "not his fault"!..

This takeover thing was the excuse for him not getting what he wanted, a load of carp because while that was going on we were still getting players, just not the ones he would call his first choice!..

Grayson, never got us out of this what do people call the leagues they don't like being in?..."tin pot league!...oh yes, this league, the question has to be asked, if he hadn't had his best players sold out from under his floor boards, would we still be in this league?..

I'd go as far as to say that if he'd got the boot and Warnock had come in, if those players had still been with us and Warnock couldn't have got us up then I'd say get him out, but they weren't and either way we're still here!..

The only way we'll know who can work with who is by this takeover thing not happening, because then we'll see that what he's got as "his choice players" that he so desperately wanted "not" are what we are again falling out about!..

Questions I've asked before but never had answers to!..

Name any manager that has worked with our boss man that has ever said who he wants?..got what he's wanted?..and told Bates how he wants it doing?..

I think Bates has heard all the managers he's worked with, given them so much, but then let them know it goes his way and no other!..

Warnock has not had at this moment in time what he has wanted, he's lined players up, but as always the top nobs in our club have found a way of letting the slip the net!..

Fishermen work long hours repairing their nets!.

Our season ended last year on August 31st and we ended up in the league where the sane ones of us expected.
This season i think NW has built a squad that will be there or thereabouts yes he might not have a couple of players he wanted but theres still time for that to happen, one thing i do not expect are performances at home like Preston, Blackpool or Forest.
Play offs at worst for me.
MOT

I want a successful Leeds which is why I want Warnock and EHD out. IMO we can never be successful with them here, so the sooner they go the better. We have to drive them out just as some fools did to the much better and more successful manager Grayson.
As to 'they have gone quiet after the cup game'! We beat the worst team in L1 - even Warnock can win occasionally, although as we saw last season it doesn't happen very often.

Oh and by the way, we don't have to wait for him to fail because he has already failed. Didn't you see Forest knock 7 past us under NW shortly after we had beaten them 4-0 under SG?

It happens, ovid.

Remember Norwich getting hammered 7-1 at home by Colchester? Look where they are now.

One bad games doesn't cancel out years of success.

Ovid you're a c0ckend

-----------As to 'they have gone quiet after the cup game'! We beat the worst team in L1 ---------------

Ovid, League 1 hasn't even started and Shrewsbury got promoted from L2 last season.

Obviously you must be able to see into the future if you know that they are the worst team already.

And, if you know so much about football, then why don't you take your FIFA coaching badge, gain years of management experience, win seven promotions and apply for the managers job at Leeds when it becomes vacant in the future, instead of wasting your obvious talents on here.

As to 'they have gone quiet after the cup game'! We beat the worst team in L1
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Now how did you work that one out ovid?

Firstly you may not have noticed that the league season hasn't started yet.
Secondly, Shrewsbury have had a successful pre-season, mostly against teams at a higher level including beating Leicester and drawing with Wolves.
Thirdly, they only lost one of their last 11 games last season when getting promoted and that was when they had nothing to play for.

As I've said before ovid, you appear to be to NW what Clive was to SG!!

@Algarve - didn't see your comment on the page before posting mine (me not fully scrolling down ) but same sentiment