Admins, multi-board please.
I imagine most United fans will vote in favour. They'll say clubs should be self sufficient. Most City fans will vote against and say it's the only way to break up the Sky 4, showing mock concern for the Villas and Evertons (clubs that they ironically have taken all hope of top 4 finishes away from).
But really, honest fans of both sides, and all other sides, will want what's best for the club they support, no matter how much they preach about the "greater good."
So i vote in favour of financial fair play, as i think it will serve United best.
This is why I wanted it multi-boarded so its not just the United/City/Chelsea fans voting against each other but all the fans.
This is hopeless. Yes ManUtd and Arsenal will always want this because they're wealthy... Spurs, Lpool, City, Chelsea the other way would never agree it. It's like giving the criminal a chance to vote, jail or no jail. His answer is just so obvious
Can't really see how it'll help any of the smaller clubs so it doesn't really affect me or my team.
Why would Spurs/Liverpool be against it Wilson?
In my opinion, Liverpool would stand to benefit perhaps more than any other club from financial fair play so I think everyone associated with that club would love it to be implemented effectively.
D Diggler (U4142)
Well I think so, based on what they've spent latly. If you look at a post on the forums you'll see they're one of the bad wolves when it comes to spending
Liverpool clearly would favor it.
Wilson, Both have also sold a fair few players over the past few years.
A lot of what they've spent is just being re-invested. I dont think either are spending beyond their means.
It would benefit Liverpool, Arsenal and United more than anyone really.
Liverpool want FFP - Henry issued a statement not so long ago saying as much.
There is no way that FFP will help the likes of Fulham, QPR, and the like ever brake into the top 4 of the Premier League. If those in favour of FFP would like to explain how it would, I for 1 would be very interested in finding out.
All FFP doses is help the bigger clubs stay on top and keep them there, it doses absolutely nothing for the smaller clubs in the Prem from trying to get into the top 4.
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Wilson - Henry wants FFP.
showing mock concern for the Villas and Evertons (clubs that they ironically have taken all hope of top 4 finishes away from).
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Villa are in no position to challenge either way + I don't seem to remember their fans being concerned for anyone else when Randy Learner came in and they thought all their worries were over!
Lets just bring FFP in anyway, we can just cancel the CL games and Real, Barca, Man U and Bayern can just have the trophy, handing it on to each other on a rolling six months each basis!
Football have became playgrounds for the cheiks, just idiotic
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I disagree that it doesn't help the smaller clubs, the subsidised clubs if left unfettered will cause massive transfer fee and wage inflation. The trickle down effect would mean wages would rise across the board and this could send many of the smaller clubs under. Making clubs live within their means is absolute sense for the good of all.
The fact that there are now about 6 super rich subsidsed clubs could mean that if this is left unchecked, the game could be bankrupt within a decade.
-bloodred- (U1222)
Yeah and they wasted it away on Bellamy, Adam etc. Nothing left of it. They haven't been in profit for a long time
There is no way that FFP will help the likes of Fulham, QPR, and the like ever brake into the top 4 of the Premier League. If those in favour of FFP would like to explain how it would, I for 1 would be very interested in finding out.
All FFP doses is help the bigger clubs stay on top and keep them there, it doses absolutely nothing for the smaller clubs in the Prem from trying to get into the top 4.
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I think people forget that the original aim of FFP was not to clip the wings of sugar daddy clubs. It was to protect the futures of clubs, and stop them doing a Portsmouth.
Well, everyone against financial fair play has rationalized it in the manner i would expect. Thing is, without sugar daddies, i would expect United, Arsenal and Liverpool to comprise the top 3 most years. The battle for 4th would be open though. With sugar daddy involvement, i can say quite confidently that the top 4 will be United, City, Chelsea and Arsenal in some order. 3 of those clubs were there last year, the other has bought a spot over the summer. That's much fairer on the rest
Yeah and they wasted it away on Bellamy, Adam etc. Nothing left of it. They haven't been in profit for a long time
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Source?
I could be wrong (maybe the Liverpool fans on this thread could correct me if I am), but I highly doubt Liverpool have been making a loss for the past 2 years.
Off Course Spurs want it , probably more than any other ......If you look at recent finishing positions they have been denied CL football in 4 of the last 6 seasons by clubs who have BOUGHT their entry into the CL
Please don't make me laugh by saying that Spurs have spent untold as well , Tottenham do not have billions pumped into their"war chests" they buy their players by using profits and sales of players
Bloodred
are u dumb?
Srly, look at it, you sell key players with average salaries, bring in replacements, who's not only playing crap so they lose CL money, pl money. they bring in adam, poulsen etc. and pay them good. NO PROFIT. damnit, look up ur sources. fk u r a idiot
are u dumb?
Srly, look at it, you sell key players with average salaries, bring in replacements, who's not only playing crap so they lose CL money, pl money. they bring in adam, poulsen etc. and pay them good. NO PROFIT. damnit, look up ur sources. fk u r a idiot
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Jesus, I suggest you calm yourself down you arrogant little c'nt. What was the need for that outburst?
All i'm asking for is a source which shows that Liverpool are spending beyond their means, as you seem to think.
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posted on 8/9/12
Admins, multi-board please.
posted on 8/9/12
I imagine most United fans will vote in favour. They'll say clubs should be self sufficient. Most City fans will vote against and say it's the only way to break up the Sky 4, showing mock concern for the Villas and Evertons (clubs that they ironically have taken all hope of top 4 finishes away from).
But really, honest fans of both sides, and all other sides, will want what's best for the club they support, no matter how much they preach about the "greater good."
So i vote in favour of financial fair play, as i think it will serve United best.
posted on 8/9/12
This is why I wanted it multi-boarded so its not just the United/City/Chelsea fans voting against each other but all the fans.
posted on 8/9/12
This is hopeless. Yes ManUtd and Arsenal will always want this because they're wealthy... Spurs, Lpool, City, Chelsea the other way would never agree it. It's like giving the criminal a chance to vote, jail or no jail. His answer is just so obvious
posted on 8/9/12
Can't really see how it'll help any of the smaller clubs so it doesn't really affect me or my team.
posted on 8/9/12
Why would Spurs/Liverpool be against it Wilson?
posted on 8/9/12
In my opinion, Liverpool would stand to benefit perhaps more than any other club from financial fair play so I think everyone associated with that club would love it to be implemented effectively.
posted on 8/9/12
D Diggler (U4142)
Well I think so, based on what they've spent latly. If you look at a post on the forums you'll see they're one of the bad wolves when it comes to spending
posted on 8/9/12
Liverpool clearly would favor it.
posted on 8/9/12
Wilson, Both have also sold a fair few players over the past few years.
A lot of what they've spent is just being re-invested. I dont think either are spending beyond their means.
It would benefit Liverpool, Arsenal and United more than anyone really.
posted on 8/9/12
Liverpool want FFP - Henry issued a statement not so long ago saying as much.
posted on 8/9/12
There is no way that FFP will help the likes of Fulham, QPR, and the like ever brake into the top 4 of the Premier League. If those in favour of FFP would like to explain how it would, I for 1 would be very interested in finding out.
All FFP doses is help the bigger clubs stay on top and keep them there, it doses absolutely nothing for the smaller clubs in the Prem from trying to get into the top 4.
posted on 8/9/12
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posted on 8/9/12
Wilson - Henry wants FFP.
posted on 8/9/12
showing mock concern for the Villas and Evertons (clubs that they ironically have taken all hope of top 4 finishes away from).
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Villa are in no position to challenge either way + I don't seem to remember their fans being concerned for anyone else when Randy Learner came in and they thought all their worries were over!
Lets just bring FFP in anyway, we can just cancel the CL games and Real, Barca, Man U and Bayern can just have the trophy, handing it on to each other on a rolling six months each basis!
posted on 8/9/12
Football have became playgrounds for the cheiks, just idiotic
posted on 8/9/12
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posted on 8/9/12
I disagree that it doesn't help the smaller clubs, the subsidised clubs if left unfettered will cause massive transfer fee and wage inflation. The trickle down effect would mean wages would rise across the board and this could send many of the smaller clubs under. Making clubs live within their means is absolute sense for the good of all.
The fact that there are now about 6 super rich subsidsed clubs could mean that if this is left unchecked, the game could be bankrupt within a decade.
posted on 8/9/12
-bloodred- (U1222)
Yeah and they wasted it away on Bellamy, Adam etc. Nothing left of it. They haven't been in profit for a long time
posted on 8/9/12
There is no way that FFP will help the likes of Fulham, QPR, and the like ever brake into the top 4 of the Premier League. If those in favour of FFP would like to explain how it would, I for 1 would be very interested in finding out.
All FFP doses is help the bigger clubs stay on top and keep them there, it doses absolutely nothing for the smaller clubs in the Prem from trying to get into the top 4.
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I think people forget that the original aim of FFP was not to clip the wings of sugar daddy clubs. It was to protect the futures of clubs, and stop them doing a Portsmouth.
posted on 8/9/12
Well, everyone against financial fair play has rationalized it in the manner i would expect. Thing is, without sugar daddies, i would expect United, Arsenal and Liverpool to comprise the top 3 most years. The battle for 4th would be open though. With sugar daddy involvement, i can say quite confidently that the top 4 will be United, City, Chelsea and Arsenal in some order. 3 of those clubs were there last year, the other has bought a spot over the summer. That's much fairer on the rest
posted on 8/9/12
Yeah and they wasted it away on Bellamy, Adam etc. Nothing left of it. They haven't been in profit for a long time
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Source?
I could be wrong (maybe the Liverpool fans on this thread could correct me if I am), but I highly doubt Liverpool have been making a loss for the past 2 years.
posted on 8/9/12
Off Course Spurs want it , probably more than any other ......If you look at recent finishing positions they have been denied CL football in 4 of the last 6 seasons by clubs who have BOUGHT their entry into the CL
Please don't make me laugh by saying that Spurs have spent untold as well , Tottenham do not have billions pumped into their"war chests" they buy their players by using profits and sales of players
posted on 8/9/12
Bloodred
are u dumb?
Srly, look at it, you sell key players with average salaries, bring in replacements, who's not only playing crap so they lose CL money, pl money. they bring in adam, poulsen etc. and pay them good. NO PROFIT. damnit, look up ur sources. fk u r a idiot
posted on 8/9/12
are u dumb?
Srly, look at it, you sell key players with average salaries, bring in replacements, who's not only playing crap so they lose CL money, pl money. they bring in adam, poulsen etc. and pay them good. NO PROFIT. damnit, look up ur sources. fk u r a idiot
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Jesus, I suggest you calm yourself down you arrogant little c'nt. What was the need for that outburst?
All i'm asking for is a source which shows that Liverpool are spending beyond their means, as you seem to think.
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