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Because cole isn't pathetic.
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Sorry, I've obviously missed. I've been out the country for the last two months but doesn't excuse the fact that I should probably have Googled this before adding another post to an already saturated topic.
When did this happen? Did it coincide with Terry?
Gazza, I don't think it's harsh. The FA have made a rod for their own back and they either had to admit to a serious error or stick with the decision.
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That's fair enough. I agree that we're living in a total nanny state and people seem to be blowing a lot of things out of proportion. However, I do wonder whether Cole would have taken some action had this Terry thing not been looming over the club.
Rightly or wrongly, it's always good to weaken your rivals when you have the chance. Perhaps this is why Rio has taken this stance, sure it's his brother, but Chelsea are also a major stumbling block in Uniteds road to the title this year.
Rio's didn't happen on the pitch. He's been fined already
So there's a difference between a racial slur being directed at someone on the pitch than over the internet?
Whether Cole was offended or not is fairly irrelevant.
To allow Ferdinand to infer that that is a 'white' way of living and a 'black' way of living and that to stray from that is worthy of derision, which is what the use of 'choc-ice' implies, to his 2 million+ followers is blatantly wrong. A white person suggesting what Ferdinand did, would have horrible undertones of the 'seperate but equal' policy that was used to justify segregation in the deep south.
I presume Footballers, like most other professions, sign a code of conduct, including their conduct on social networks, when the cross the line they rightfully get punished.
As far as being punished by the fa yes of course there is
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It's all pedantic and annoying really. Why can people just say racist things if they want? If they do they can be equally ridiculed by those who are offended. We can't effectively police what people say, particularly these days.
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The problem is its a joke taken in by 3.3 million people (just checked my figures there!), many of whom hero worship Rio Ferdinand and look up to him and what he says.
It's completley the wrong message to send out to them, whether it's a joke or not. I hate when people harp on about the money footballers are on but it does make them role models and gives them certain responsibilities, especially on Twitter.
Add to the code of conduce that I presume footballers sign is the issue of 'ownership' of followers. Why does Rio Ferdinand have 3.3 million followers? Because he plays football for Manchester United in the Premier League and formerly for England and the Football Association. I think that's why they feel that they have some kind of jurisdiction over twitter.
TGI
Are you saying people should be allowed to make racist comments?
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I agree education would be far better than fining them, a fine is irrelevant. It tries to send out some kind of message, but even that fails because everyone knows just how much the players are on, and that, in all probability, they won't really notice £45,000 gone missing from their account.
In some ways footballers are good role models. They have a target and they work incredibly hard to get there. That's something to be applauded and held up to kids as a good example.
In 2012 we know far more about footballers private lives though, and this makes them far less attractive as role models. I don't blame many of them for living the lives they do, many, if not most guys, in their 20's earning more than they can spend in a lifetime would lead similiar lifestyles. But like it or not they are looked up to because they are doing what millions of kids aspire to.
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they fined rio already
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Because cole isn't pathetic.
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Sorry, I've obviously missed. I've been out the country for the last two months but doesn't excuse the fact that I should probably have Googled this before adding another post to an already saturated topic.
When did this happen? Did it coincide with Terry?
Gazza, I don't think it's harsh. The FA have made a rod for their own back and they either had to admit to a serious error or stick with the decision.
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That's fair enough. I agree that we're living in a total nanny state and people seem to be blowing a lot of things out of proportion. However, I do wonder whether Cole would have taken some action had this Terry thing not been looming over the club.
Rightly or wrongly, it's always good to weaken your rivals when you have the chance. Perhaps this is why Rio has taken this stance, sure it's his brother, but Chelsea are also a major stumbling block in Uniteds road to the title this year.
posted on 27/9/12
Rio's didn't happen on the pitch. He's been fined already
posted on 27/9/12
So there's a difference between a racial slur being directed at someone on the pitch than over the internet?
posted on 27/9/12
Whether Cole was offended or not is fairly irrelevant.
To allow Ferdinand to infer that that is a 'white' way of living and a 'black' way of living and that to stray from that is worthy of derision, which is what the use of 'choc-ice' implies, to his 2 million+ followers is blatantly wrong. A white person suggesting what Ferdinand did, would have horrible undertones of the 'seperate but equal' policy that was used to justify segregation in the deep south.
I presume Footballers, like most other professions, sign a code of conduct, including their conduct on social networks, when the cross the line they rightfully get punished.
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As far as being punished by the fa yes of course there is
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It's all pedantic and annoying really. Why can people just say racist things if they want? If they do they can be equally ridiculed by those who are offended. We can't effectively police what people say, particularly these days.
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The problem is its a joke taken in by 3.3 million people (just checked my figures there!), many of whom hero worship Rio Ferdinand and look up to him and what he says.
It's completley the wrong message to send out to them, whether it's a joke or not. I hate when people harp on about the money footballers are on but it does make them role models and gives them certain responsibilities, especially on Twitter.
Add to the code of conduce that I presume footballers sign is the issue of 'ownership' of followers. Why does Rio Ferdinand have 3.3 million followers? Because he plays football for Manchester United in the Premier League and formerly for England and the Football Association. I think that's why they feel that they have some kind of jurisdiction over twitter.
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*code of conduct
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TGI
Are you saying people should be allowed to make racist comments?
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I agree education would be far better than fining them, a fine is irrelevant. It tries to send out some kind of message, but even that fails because everyone knows just how much the players are on, and that, in all probability, they won't really notice £45,000 gone missing from their account.
In some ways footballers are good role models. They have a target and they work incredibly hard to get there. That's something to be applauded and held up to kids as a good example.
In 2012 we know far more about footballers private lives though, and this makes them far less attractive as role models. I don't blame many of them for living the lives they do, many, if not most guys, in their 20's earning more than they can spend in a lifetime would lead similiar lifestyles. But like it or not they are looked up to because they are doing what millions of kids aspire to.
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