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Not totally true neon
Was at Trent Bridge last year when he took a Hat-Trick and asked for autograph for my lad when he eventually came back into pavilion.
Looked at me and just said no.
Not saying he shouldn't be Captain for this but not a top bloke all the time.
Looking at Scorecard today Bairstow took a long time to get his few and Hales to a degree.
West Indies, Charles and Gayle were destructive on the day and that is what you need.
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Agree we were all surprised at his reaction. On a bad day maybe but not then.
guys im not saying middle class people are better than working-class or vice versa. What im saying is that for the twenty20 you need a bit of bite like paul collingwood team of yesteryear.
The problem with the England team is that they`re all stupid.....
Robotic bowling plans with no scope for individual talent and mongoloid batsmen with less brain cells than I have teeth.....
"I`m an English bowler, I`ll pitch it short at 80 mph"
PFFFFT!
openers are meant to be agressive in this format. why are batsman so tentative? u have 5 more batsman and just 20 overs. use them as effectively as possible.
The problem is that our opening batsmen are too aggressive (ie swinging at wild shots to hit it out of the ground- kieswetter, wright) and our bowlers are too tentative like finn and broad who prefer line and length bowling ala like in a test match.
It should be the other way around.
I dont believe that in twenty20 batsmen have to smash loads of fours. Everyone accepts that scoring 10 runs an over is acceptable. That can be done by hiting two's and singles with the odd boundary.
Thats why i think kieswetter, Wright and bairstow should be replaced by 'proper' batsmen at the top of the order.
comment by kaseberan (U16072)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
I dont believe that in twenty20 batsmen have to smash loads of fours. Everyone accepts that scoring 10 runs an over is acceptable. That can be done by hiting two's and singles with the odd boundary.
Thats why i think kieswetter, Wright and bairstow should be replaced by 'proper' batsmen at the top of the order.
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Well said. T20 is not all about throwing your bat after ball. You need regular batsman like Bell. Cook may be too slow. Even Bopara might do better than some folks did today. Look at SA or SL, their top(proper) batsman are the ones scoring. Jayawardane, Sangakara, Ghambir, Hussey, Kholi, Amla are doing well in this format.
Then again does ECB cares/do need to care about this format at all? I don't think they do. Perhaps ECB thinks that England will follow path similar to India if they go all out in T20. They are more concerned about Ashes. Less about T20. Hence they are regulating their test and ODI players playing this format. Which is not bad idea.
This is T20. Your top 3 batsman need to be class.
Hales I rate.
Kieswetter is a slogger. For T20 if in the sude he should bat 5 or 6.
Wright - Never a number 3.
The solution.
For a start, get KP in there. Take Gayle, Kohli, Amla away from their team and they would suffer too. KP takes the responsibility and attention away from the younger lads.
My other thought. We don't have a proper batsman in that top 4. One who is w classy player and who doesn't just swing it. Goid foit movement and classy player.
My team would be:
Hales
Bell
Pieterson
Bairsto
Morgan
Buttler wk
Swann
Broad c
Finn
Briggs
Dernbach
Another issue for England is that Swann keeps taking the easy ride. He never bowls in a powerplay and never bowls at the death. All the other leading spinners do both. He is supposed to be a wicket taker so should be bowling when batsman attack him the most but I don't know who decides this but if its Swann then he's bottling it.
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posted on 27/9/12
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posted on 27/9/12
Not totally true neon
Was at Trent Bridge last year when he took a Hat-Trick and asked for autograph for my lad when he eventually came back into pavilion.
Looked at me and just said no.
Not saying he shouldn't be Captain for this but not a top bloke all the time.
posted on 27/9/12
Looking at Scorecard today Bairstow took a long time to get his few and Hales to a degree.
West Indies, Charles and Gayle were destructive on the day and that is what you need.
posted on 27/9/12
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 27/9/12
Agree we were all surprised at his reaction. On a bad day maybe but not then.
posted on 27/9/12
guys im not saying middle class people are better than working-class or vice versa. What im saying is that for the twenty20 you need a bit of bite like paul collingwood team of yesteryear.
posted on 27/9/12
The problem with the England team is that they`re all stupid.....
Robotic bowling plans with no scope for individual talent and mongoloid batsmen with less brain cells than I have teeth.....
"I`m an English bowler, I`ll pitch it short at 80 mph"
PFFFFT!
posted on 27/9/12
openers are meant to be agressive in this format. why are batsman so tentative? u have 5 more batsman and just 20 overs. use them as effectively as possible.
posted on 27/9/12
The problem is that our opening batsmen are too aggressive (ie swinging at wild shots to hit it out of the ground- kieswetter, wright) and our bowlers are too tentative like finn and broad who prefer line and length bowling ala like in a test match.
It should be the other way around.
posted on 27/9/12
I dont believe that in twenty20 batsmen have to smash loads of fours. Everyone accepts that scoring 10 runs an over is acceptable. That can be done by hiting two's and singles with the odd boundary.
Thats why i think kieswetter, Wright and bairstow should be replaced by 'proper' batsmen at the top of the order.
posted on 27/9/12
comment by kaseberan (U16072)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
I dont believe that in twenty20 batsmen have to smash loads of fours. Everyone accepts that scoring 10 runs an over is acceptable. That can be done by hiting two's and singles with the odd boundary.
Thats why i think kieswetter, Wright and bairstow should be replaced by 'proper' batsmen at the top of the order.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well said. T20 is not all about throwing your bat after ball. You need regular batsman like Bell. Cook may be too slow. Even Bopara might do better than some folks did today. Look at SA or SL, their top(proper) batsman are the ones scoring. Jayawardane, Sangakara, Ghambir, Hussey, Kholi, Amla are doing well in this format.
Then again does ECB cares/do need to care about this format at all? I don't think they do. Perhaps ECB thinks that England will follow path similar to India if they go all out in T20. They are more concerned about Ashes. Less about T20. Hence they are regulating their test and ODI players playing this format. Which is not bad idea.
posted on 27/9/12
This is T20. Your top 3 batsman need to be class.
Hales I rate.
Kieswetter is a slogger. For T20 if in the sude he should bat 5 or 6.
Wright - Never a number 3.
The solution.
For a start, get KP in there. Take Gayle, Kohli, Amla away from their team and they would suffer too. KP takes the responsibility and attention away from the younger lads.
My other thought. We don't have a proper batsman in that top 4. One who is w classy player and who doesn't just swing it. Goid foit movement and classy player.
My team would be:
Hales
Bell
Pieterson
Bairsto
Morgan
Buttler wk
Swann
Broad c
Finn
Briggs
Dernbach
posted on 28/9/12
Another issue for England is that Swann keeps taking the easy ride. He never bowls in a powerplay and never bowls at the death. All the other leading spinners do both. He is supposed to be a wicket taker so should be bowling when batsman attack him the most but I don't know who decides this but if its Swann then he's bottling it.
posted on 28/9/12
What a weird article.
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