Where is he supposed to run? It was miles to the away fans. If he runs to the away fans to celebrate he'd get booked for over enthusiastic celebrating

Looking at the home crowd and making that gesture is asking for trouble whatever it actually implies.

It doesn't take a genius to work out, that if you score away from home stay away from the crowd unless your own fans are near. For example that time Joe Cole scored at The Stretford end in 2010.

Yes, I think he knew what he was doing.
He had plenty of time to realise his mistake but carried on regardless.

There was many areas Hernandez could have gone to celebrate, but he chooses right infront of an already irate MHL.

lets just do away with goal celebrations altogether and force players to walk up the middle of the pitch and shake hands, if you cant celebrate a goal with your teammates in front of the crowd without getting missiles thrown at you then that is the pathetic morons in the crowd's problem not yours

lets just do away with goal celebrations altogether and force players to walk up the middle of the pitch and shake hands, if you cant celebrate a goal with your teammates in front of the crowd without getting missiles thrown at you then that is the pathetic morons in the crowd's problem not yours

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but if you are going to delibrately incite a crowd, don't be surprised when you get a reaction either.

comment by It's a Mexican Rave!!!! Psychic Spies From The Listed Try To Steal Your Minds Elation! (U6687)
posted 1 minute ago
lets just do away with goal celebrations altogether and force players to walk up the middle of the pitch and shake hands, if you cant celebrate a goal with your teammates in front of the crowd without getting missiles thrown at you then that is the pathetic morons in the crowd's problem not yours
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You are completely missing the point.

Hernandez looked at the direction of the crowd and made that gesture. Why didn't he use that gesture to Young (who was behind him)?

I have seen many Chelsea goals scored at The Stretford end and our players have managed to steer clear of celebrating infront of you, im sure if Drogba did similar when he was with us you would be calling for him to get transported out of the country.

no im not so prissy to get upset by a player celebrating in front of me, you just look like a complete when you react like those chelsea fans did(and fans of other clubs including utd), i wonder if you showed them a video of themselves whether they would be ashamed or proud of themselves?

I've never begrudged a player celebrating after scoring a big goal. I even thought Gerrard kissing the camera was fine, comical even.

You keep talking about the riot inciting gesture, was there a different one than the C for Chicharito?

Again, its not the 'c' gesture itself, its the way he directed it right at the Chelsea fans.
This is not complicated stuff.

It is pretty complicated, you have a bunch of grown men angry enough to throw coins at their own steward because a little mexican fella ran past them grinning with his hand in a C shape

pathetic isnt it thunderkiss

I'm not sure if it's more worrying people would throw coins at players or that people will stand up for their right to throw coins because they're "wound up"

comment by Thunderkiss_65_ (U2407)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm not sure if it's more worrying people would throw coins at players or that people will stand up for their right to throw coins because they're "wound up"
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This comment alone proves that there is no point even trying to debate here because the main points have gone right over the head of the lot of you.

Good lord, you two are either being delibrately ignorant or you're just stupid.
I never said it is ok to throw things at them but that it isn't the brightest idea to delibrately wind a crowd up like Hernandez did.

but youre making an excuse for them, when there is no excuse, thats our point, is that going over your head or are you just not bothering to read our comments or are you deliberately ignoring it

You've already pointed it out numerous times. They are just refusing to give you any credit for it. Cant take your side can they?

Your main point is that you lost and are now, collectively as fans and as a club, trying to pick apart the game into refereeing mistakes, refereeing abuse and crowd incitement to cover up crowd trouble and player indiscipline. I understand this fully, apart from the claiming the ref is a racist, as Fergie has been blaming everything but the players for years.

I have read your comments rave and your position is that Hernandez is blameless, when he's not.

It's a Mexican Rave!!!! Psychic Spies From The Listed Try To Steal Your Minds Elation! (U6687)

Really? look back earlier in the comments i clearly said i hope who throwed the objects get banned.

Doesn't change the fact that any player with half a brain cell should know that smiling and making (whatever) sort of gesture infront off an already irate opposition support is asking for trouble.

If i played for Chelsea at Old Trafford, and i scored at The Stretford end, i would celebrate up the pitch away from that section, like Joe Cole did when he scored there. Most away players who score at the Matthew Harding end do exactly the same also.

he's celebrating a goal, if idiots choose to take offense at that then thats their problem he is blameless, if he had ran 80 yards like adebayor did at the council house then i would agree with you but in this instance he is totally blameless and nothing you can say will make me think otherwise

Hehe, I can imagine you covering your ears and saying "lalalalalalalalala..."

"he's celebrating a goal, if idiots choose to take offense at that then thats their problem he is blameless"

Many Chelsea players have scored at The Stretford end. Lampard, Hasselbaink, Melchiot, Flo, Tiago, Joe Cole, Gudjohnsen. All of them managed to keep their distance from the home support.

Hernandez hardly plays though so he might not have known where he was.

good for them if i ever see them ill thank them for their consideration in not hurting my poor little feelings