The first goal wasn't offside as the ball was last played by an opponent
This article reeks of perspective and balanced opinions. What is it doing on here?
No because Giroud was offside when the ball was initially played out of defence and the phase of play doesn't change.
There was a similar incident two years ago when Saha scored for Everton against us at the Emirates, he was well offside and the ball took a deflection off Kos on the way through but it was still offside and the ref I believe admitted the mistake.
comment by JamesJarad (U10013)
posted 32 seconds ago
The first goal wasn't offside as the ball was last played by an opponent
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Can't be offside when the ball is played by the Schalke player. His contact and effect it had on the ball was notable.
Wow!! With these ratings, you'd think we played well but were lucky to draw
Cazorla6?? Wilshere7??
R u kidding me?
We could barely make a pass forward
If Huntelaar had scored that 1on1 I wonder what these ratings would have been
No because Giroud was offside when the ball was initially played out of defence and the phase of play doesn't change.
There was a similar incident two years ago when Saha scored for Everton against us at the Emirates, he was well offside and the ball took a deflection off Kos on the way through but it was still offside and the ref I believe admitted the mistake.
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I am an FA qualified referee and I can tell you the difference between the two incidents. If the ball comes off or deflets off a player (like the Everton game you mentioned), then it is offside. If however the ball is played back or headed back by an opponent, (like this evening), then it isn't offside.
Stufeez it was the same in Montpellier 2nd half but because we held on (more down to luck than judgement) you were probably fine with it? Spare us the hypocrisy, please. Schalke are a good side and we are very fragile at the moment, I said performance needs improving but a point away to an in-form side is hardly bad no matter what the circumstances.
I am an FA qualified referee and I can tell you the difference between the two incidents. If the ball comes off or deflets off a player (like the Everton game you mentioned), then it is offside. If however the ball is played back or headed back by an opponent, (like this evening), then it isn't offside.
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OK, thanks for the correction, I'll take your word for it if you're a ref
The goal wasn't offside.
StuFeez makes a reasonable point but I think he's wrong....our midfield was ok, nothing great but if we had lost (and we didn't) it would not have been down to them.
But it was still quite lucky as we messed it up but it fell kindly for Walcott.
I don't think u can blame Per or Sagna for the 1st goal. Blame lies solely with Cazorla IMO. He slips and loses it in a dangerous place when our defenders are out of posistion and basically not set.
I don't think u can blame Per or Sagna for the 1st goal. Blame lies solely with Cazorla IMO. He slips and loses it in a dangerous place when our defenders are out of posistion and basically not set.
Exactly Boss. This goal was avoidable if Cazorla put the ball away.
Overall I agree with your ratings though and your comments Merte.
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posted on 6/11/12
The first goal wasn't offside as the ball was last played by an opponent
posted on 6/11/12
This article reeks of perspective and balanced opinions. What is it doing on here?
posted on 6/11/12
No because Giroud was offside when the ball was initially played out of defence and the phase of play doesn't change.
There was a similar incident two years ago when Saha scored for Everton against us at the Emirates, he was well offside and the ball took a deflection off Kos on the way through but it was still offside and the ref I believe admitted the mistake.
posted on 6/11/12
comment by JamesJarad (U10013)
posted 32 seconds ago
The first goal wasn't offside as the ball was last played by an opponent
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This.
posted on 6/11/12
Can't be offside when the ball is played by the Schalke player. His contact and effect it had on the ball was notable.
posted on 6/11/12
Wow!! With these ratings, you'd think we played well but were lucky to draw
Cazorla6?? Wilshere7??
R u kidding me?
We could barely make a pass forward
If Huntelaar had scored that 1on1 I wonder what these ratings would have been
posted on 6/11/12
No because Giroud was offside when the ball was initially played out of defence and the phase of play doesn't change.
There was a similar incident two years ago when Saha scored for Everton against us at the Emirates, he was well offside and the ball took a deflection off Kos on the way through but it was still offside and the ref I believe admitted the mistake.
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I am an FA qualified referee and I can tell you the difference between the two incidents. If the ball comes off or deflets off a player (like the Everton game you mentioned), then it is offside. If however the ball is played back or headed back by an opponent, (like this evening), then it isn't offside.
posted on 6/11/12
Stufeez it was the same in Montpellier 2nd half but because we held on (more down to luck than judgement) you were probably fine with it? Spare us the hypocrisy, please. Schalke are a good side and we are very fragile at the moment, I said performance needs improving but a point away to an in-form side is hardly bad no matter what the circumstances.
posted on 6/11/12
I am an FA qualified referee and I can tell you the difference between the two incidents. If the ball comes off or deflets off a player (like the Everton game you mentioned), then it is offside. If however the ball is played back or headed back by an opponent, (like this evening), then it isn't offside.
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OK, thanks for the correction, I'll take your word for it if you're a ref
posted on 6/11/12
The goal wasn't offside.
StuFeez makes a reasonable point but I think he's wrong....our midfield was ok, nothing great but if we had lost (and we didn't) it would not have been down to them.
posted on 6/11/12
But it was still quite lucky as we messed it up but it fell kindly for Walcott.
posted on 6/11/12
I don't think u can blame Per or Sagna for the 1st goal. Blame lies solely with Cazorla IMO. He slips and loses it in a dangerous place when our defenders are out of posistion and basically not set.
posted on 7/11/12
I don't think u can blame Per or Sagna for the 1st goal. Blame lies solely with Cazorla IMO. He slips and loses it in a dangerous place when our defenders are out of posistion and basically not set.
Exactly Boss. This goal was avoidable if Cazorla put the ball away.
Overall I agree with your ratings though and your comments Merte.
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