Don Mata, that will be the watershed. Once he sees that this behaviour is actually costing him, from getting his next one.
If he covets Pep as some would like us to believe and the aforementioned rejects him, it might be good for Roman!
e.g. say Benitez remains here for the next 4/5 years and proves a largely successful appointment, gaining Roman's trust enough to oversee tricky patches without being axed prematurely - and we still reject him. Ask yourself, how can we proclaim ourselves any better than him and his treatment of Di Matteo?
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TP - a very fair point. I've written elsewhere on here that while I'm not willing to cheer Benitez, I haven't booed him and will not do so unless the results deserve it.
If what you suggest ever comes around I'm not sure how I'll react. I think I'll probably be stuck in some sort of limbo as I am now, so perhaps you're right in that I'd be being a bare-faced hypocrite by doing so.
One thing is for sure - our huge army of international fans will cheer him regardless. I don't know if any of you follow Chelsea on Facebook, but the 8,000 or so likes and comments on every article (including the Di Matteo sacking) come from random people from all over the world who simply parrot whatever the club line is.
Sandsend - Indeed! Hence calling them cretins. I have absolutely no faith in the sports media. Their obsession with clubs having to please 'neutrals' grates on me constantly. Who cares about neutrals? Who even are the neutrals? I have only met one person who was an active football fan (i.e. he went to games) who didn't genuinely support a club. I really couldn't care less for the opinion of random outsiders!
Anyway, judging by other responses here lots of other people seem to be in the same place as me... I wonder what will happen if we produce 3 or 4 more performances like that?
I wonder what will happen if we produce 3 or 4 more performances like that?
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Roman will trade in his box for the dug out
The crowd will sing "Roman give us a wave"
He won't, but his bodyguard will
Summer
I would love Roman to learn his lesson after this whole episode, so that he doesn't make the same mistake again. But then if he doesn't get Pep we'll be really stuck and have a limited number of options. One big mess
The way i see it is that unless we already have Pep signed up then he is not coming to us.
Also if he does come I have no level of confidence he will be an immediate success
Biggish, perhaps that is the way forward. He should appoint himself Manager and then after he has dismissed himself for not winning the Quadruple then we can get back to some sort of normality, like other Clubs.
Forget Pep and next year. We need to win games now. Is Rafa that man ? The mess is already here
I think the as you say if Pep says no it could be a watershed moment.........
We will go for Dortmund manager
Inactive User
Was trying to highlight the point that why'll we both (Roman & the fans) harbor the ideal of settling down, both of us have demonstrated in the past that they'll only accept stability on our own terms, making the whole thing actually about establishing control.
Take the last three managers :
AVB - we decided after a collosal 6 months of observation that he wasn't our guy, clueless and classless individual who we didn't want representing us, but Roman clearly thought differently and wanted him to succeed more than we did having given him until the season was everything but a write off.
RDM - A guy the fans admired and respected, but he was never a serious candidate in Roman's eyes and only remained in position by making himself unsackable. Naturally, we feel undervalued by this.
Benitez - Someone we're not even giving the benefit of 6 months to reach a half baked judgement about, and probably won't care if Roman cuts him short rather promoting the idea.
Been saying it for about a week now, Roman is just another callous fan, but we shouldn't be thinking we're any better
RDM - A guy the fans admired and respected as a player but only as a manager because of what he achieved when he took over.
Had he not won the CL fans would not have been in uproar had Roman not hired him.
Had he not won the CL fans would not have been in uproar had Roman not hired him.
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I disagree. For the reasons in the original article, I wanted a home-grown manager to see what he could do. The fact that he won the CL certainly emphasised matters, but I wanted us to hire him all along.
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posted on 2/12/12
Don Mata, that will be the watershed. Once he sees that this behaviour is actually costing him, from getting his next one.
posted on 2/12/12
If he covets Pep as some would like us to believe and the aforementioned rejects him, it might be good for Roman!
posted on 2/12/12
e.g. say Benitez remains here for the next 4/5 years and proves a largely successful appointment, gaining Roman's trust enough to oversee tricky patches without being axed prematurely - and we still reject him. Ask yourself, how can we proclaim ourselves any better than him and his treatment of Di Matteo?
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TP - a very fair point. I've written elsewhere on here that while I'm not willing to cheer Benitez, I haven't booed him and will not do so unless the results deserve it.
If what you suggest ever comes around I'm not sure how I'll react. I think I'll probably be stuck in some sort of limbo as I am now, so perhaps you're right in that I'd be being a bare-faced hypocrite by doing so.
One thing is for sure - our huge army of international fans will cheer him regardless. I don't know if any of you follow Chelsea on Facebook, but the 8,000 or so likes and comments on every article (including the Di Matteo sacking) come from random people from all over the world who simply parrot whatever the club line is.
Sandsend - Indeed! Hence calling them cretins. I have absolutely no faith in the sports media. Their obsession with clubs having to please 'neutrals' grates on me constantly. Who cares about neutrals? Who even are the neutrals? I have only met one person who was an active football fan (i.e. he went to games) who didn't genuinely support a club. I really couldn't care less for the opinion of random outsiders!
Anyway, judging by other responses here lots of other people seem to be in the same place as me... I wonder what will happen if we produce 3 or 4 more performances like that?
posted on 2/12/12
I wonder what will happen if we produce 3 or 4 more performances like that?
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Roman will trade in his box for the dug out
posted on 2/12/12
The crowd will sing "Roman give us a wave"
He won't, but his bodyguard will
posted on 2/12/12
dug out ?
Fox hole
posted on 2/12/12
Summer
I would love Roman to learn his lesson after this whole episode, so that he doesn't make the same mistake again. But then if he doesn't get Pep we'll be really stuck and have a limited number of options. One big mess
posted on 2/12/12
The way i see it is that unless we already have Pep signed up then he is not coming to us.
Also if he does come I have no level of confidence he will be an immediate success
posted on 2/12/12
Biggish, perhaps that is the way forward. He should appoint himself Manager and then after he has dismissed himself for not winning the Quadruple then we can get back to some sort of normality, like other Clubs.
posted on 2/12/12
Forget Pep and next year. We need to win games now. Is Rafa that man ? The mess is already here
posted on 2/12/12
I think the as you say if Pep says no it could be a watershed moment.........
posted on 2/12/12
We will go for Dortmund manager
posted on 2/12/12
Inactive User
Was trying to highlight the point that why'll we both (Roman & the fans) harbor the ideal of settling down, both of us have demonstrated in the past that they'll only accept stability on our own terms, making the whole thing actually about establishing control.
Take the last three managers :
AVB - we decided after a collosal 6 months of observation that he wasn't our guy, clueless and classless individual who we didn't want representing us, but Roman clearly thought differently and wanted him to succeed more than we did having given him until the season was everything but a write off.
RDM - A guy the fans admired and respected, but he was never a serious candidate in Roman's eyes and only remained in position by making himself unsackable. Naturally, we feel undervalued by this.
Benitez - Someone we're not even giving the benefit of 6 months to reach a half baked judgement about, and probably won't care if Roman cuts him short rather promoting the idea.
Been saying it for about a week now, Roman is just another callous fan, but we shouldn't be thinking we're any better
posted on 2/12/12
RDM - A guy the fans admired and respected as a player but only as a manager because of what he achieved when he took over.
Had he not won the CL fans would not have been in uproar had Roman not hired him.
posted on 2/12/12
Had he not won the CL fans would not have been in uproar had Roman not hired him.
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I disagree. For the reasons in the original article, I wanted a home-grown manager to see what he could do. The fact that he won the CL certainly emphasised matters, but I wanted us to hire him all along.
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