All players go through periods of bad form and Young is no exception. He may not be 'world class' or have an exotic name but he definitely has a role to play in the United squad.
Whether he's 'United quality' or not shouldn't be decided after one injury plagued first season.
I'm keeping an open mind. When he is on form he's pretty tasty and some of the crosses he puts in are undefendable to he deserves time
Definitely capable of playing for us imo, just seems to have lacked sharpeness and confidence since his injuries. Unsurprisingly
Young is the epitome of mediocrity. I think he gets a raw deal here but that doesn't detract from the fact that he is of limite ability.
It is not a diss, it is just a statement of fact.
the thing i hold most against him is that he's an enormous cheat, the worst in the league
At least we don't have Downing
always rated him, watched his career from an early age. great crosser, good finisher and has plenty of running in him
just needs to do the "simple" things, get down the line & put some good crosses in.
He needed to deliver a performance after his shocker against west ham and he did. He needs to do it again this weekend....
Young overcomplicates things for me. He should be more direct. I like the fact that he wants to try something different and like play inside, however, he simply does not have the ability to play in that way. He needs to play to his strengths.
If he did this more often we'd get better perfomances, perhaps, and he'd be a decent squad player. We need a top class left winger in the summer, for sure.
If he can get his form back from the beginning of last season, and keep it at that level, then he will make it here.
He has the ability. He just needs consistancy.
He isn't on Nani's level when both are at their best but he isn't too shoddy either. He was marvelous v West Brom last season as an example
I'll judge him after a run of games staying fit
the thing i hold most against him is that he's an enormous cheat, the worst in the league
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I agree with that point, I really hope SAF makes it clear that the club and fans don't like this.
Although i thought he drew unfair criticism against the QPR thugs.... He was bundled over.... Wasn't a penalty, but wasn't a dive.... Yet the QPR lot got away with giving him a right load of grief.
A good squad player and should be used in the capital one cup and fa cup, and any games where we require a defensive winger. Other than that it pains me to see him in the team.
Dont forget for a few million more we would have got Mata!
Dont forget for a few million more we would have got Mata!
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There is just no point thinking like this..... How do you know he wanted to come to Manchester? How do you know what wages he's on?
Chelsea throw cahs at anything, occasionally, they will get a good player.. but for every Mata, there is a Paulo Ferriera.
Young appears to be a player who's head drops when things aren't going well.
He is a useful player to have though and can do something special when required
There is just no point thinking like this..... How do you know he wanted to come to Manchester? How do you know what wages he's on?
Chelsea throw cahs at anything, occasionally, they will get a good player.. but for every Mata, there is a Paulo Ferriera.
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You see my point, £18 million was way too much money for an average player like Young, also considering he was in the last year of his contract.
Another mistake which we should accept. Berbatov was another.
The kind of money we spend is astonishing sometimes!
You see my point, £18 million was way too much money for an average player like Young, also considering he was in the last year of his contract.
Another mistake which we should accept. Berbatov was another.
The kind of money we spend is astonishing sometimes!
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but for every one of those you pick up a gem like vidic, evra, the twins.
comment by UnitedRedMacca- Even the TERMS Clevshinson or Cleverson sound better than Scholrick and don't get me started on Carrickholes (U2024)
posted 25 minutes ago
If he can get his form back from the beginning of last season, and keep it at that level, then he will make it here.
He has the ability. He just needs consistancy.
He isn't on Nani's level when both are at their best but he isn't too shoddy either. He was marvelous v West Brom last season as an example
I'll judge him after a run of games staying fit
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How dare you try to be logical here!!!
Such behaviour is unacceptable, one bad game and get rid
but for every one of those you pick up a gem like vidic, evra, the twins.
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I know but we seem to get too many Dioufs, Youngs, Bebe's, Macheda's, Berbatov's, Kuscaskcs these days. Its really annoying.
HNIC
Macheda joined as a trainee at 16 ffs. Hardly similar
Macheda joined as a trainee at 16 ffs. Hardly similar
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Still crap. I know the manager gets some gems but the crap outweighs the good.
I just wish he would sign a promising young midfielder or someone who can spark some excitement in the team.
Diouf - decent player, doing well in Germany, signed for roughly 5m. Never given a chance here
Bebe - signed for 4.5m, looks decent in the reserves and has a better goal to game ration for us than Torres has for Chelsea
Macheda - signed for next to nothing.
Berbatov - instrumental in our 19th league title win when Rooney was on sabbatical. Highest goal scorer, treated like garbage by the manager and has since gone
Kusczak - again, signed for less than 5m and had a few decent performances
You cannot have a squad filled with world class players in every position. It just wouldn't work, you need guys like the people above to do a job as and when required
Dioufs, Youngs, Bebe's, Macheda's, Berbatov's, Kuscaskcs these days. Its really annoying.
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diouf - hardly a big signing, got a bit back
Youngs - on his day is a decent squad player to have
Bebe's - strange one granted
Macheda's - came through the youth system
Berbatov's, - his goals were a big contribution in winning the league
PIG - decent back up, were are seeing the problem in having two decent keepers who think they should be playing. - pig was a decent backup to edwin.
cant see your problem here to be honest ninja.
Bebe - signed for 4.5m, looks decent in the reserves and has a better goal to game ration for us than Torres has for Chelsea
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The hilarity of Torres never ceases.
You cannot have a squad filled with world class players in every position. It just wouldn't work, you need guys like the people above to do a job as and when required
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I dont world class just some ability!
Too many workhorses and not enough technical ability or guile or make something happen.
Those players you named must have cost over £70 million in wages and transfer fee's yet they will always be remembered as flops. It upsets me to see money wasted that way when we know we cant spend like City Chelsea etc.
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posted on 4/12/12
All players go through periods of bad form and Young is no exception. He may not be 'world class' or have an exotic name but he definitely has a role to play in the United squad.
posted on 4/12/12
Whether he's 'United quality' or not shouldn't be decided after one injury plagued first season.
I'm keeping an open mind. When he is on form he's pretty tasty and some of the crosses he puts in are undefendable to he deserves time
posted on 4/12/12
Definitely capable of playing for us imo, just seems to have lacked sharpeness and confidence since his injuries. Unsurprisingly
posted on 4/12/12
Young is the epitome of mediocrity. I think he gets a raw deal here but that doesn't detract from the fact that he is of limite ability.
It is not a diss, it is just a statement of fact.
posted on 4/12/12
the thing i hold most against him is that he's an enormous cheat, the worst in the league
posted on 4/12/12
At least we don't have Downing
posted on 4/12/12
always rated him, watched his career from an early age. great crosser, good finisher and has plenty of running in him
posted on 4/12/12
just needs to do the "simple" things, get down the line & put some good crosses in.
posted on 4/12/12
He needed to deliver a performance after his shocker against west ham and he did. He needs to do it again this weekend....
posted on 4/12/12
Young overcomplicates things for me. He should be more direct. I like the fact that he wants to try something different and like play inside, however, he simply does not have the ability to play in that way. He needs to play to his strengths.
If he did this more often we'd get better perfomances, perhaps, and he'd be a decent squad player. We need a top class left winger in the summer, for sure.
posted on 4/12/12
If he can get his form back from the beginning of last season, and keep it at that level, then he will make it here.
He has the ability. He just needs consistancy.
He isn't on Nani's level when both are at their best but he isn't too shoddy either. He was marvelous v West Brom last season as an example
I'll judge him after a run of games staying fit
posted on 4/12/12
the thing i hold most against him is that he's an enormous cheat, the worst in the league
---------------------------------------------
I agree with that point, I really hope SAF makes it clear that the club and fans don't like this.
Although i thought he drew unfair criticism against the QPR thugs.... He was bundled over.... Wasn't a penalty, but wasn't a dive.... Yet the QPR lot got away with giving him a right load of grief.
posted on 4/12/12
A good squad player and should be used in the capital one cup and fa cup, and any games where we require a defensive winger. Other than that it pains me to see him in the team.
Dont forget for a few million more we would have got Mata!
posted on 4/12/12
Dont forget for a few million more we would have got Mata!
-----------------------------------
There is just no point thinking like this..... How do you know he wanted to come to Manchester? How do you know what wages he's on?
Chelsea throw cahs at anything, occasionally, they will get a good player.. but for every Mata, there is a Paulo Ferriera.
posted on 4/12/12
Young appears to be a player who's head drops when things aren't going well.
He is a useful player to have though and can do something special when required
posted on 4/12/12
There is just no point thinking like this..... How do you know he wanted to come to Manchester? How do you know what wages he's on?
Chelsea throw cahs at anything, occasionally, they will get a good player.. but for every Mata, there is a Paulo Ferriera.
-------
You see my point, £18 million was way too much money for an average player like Young, also considering he was in the last year of his contract.
Another mistake which we should accept. Berbatov was another.
The kind of money we spend is astonishing sometimes!
posted on 4/12/12
You see my point, £18 million was way too much money for an average player like Young, also considering he was in the last year of his contract.
Another mistake which we should accept. Berbatov was another.
The kind of money we spend is astonishing sometimes!
--------
but for every one of those you pick up a gem like vidic, evra, the twins.
posted on 4/12/12
comment by UnitedRedMacca- Even the TERMS Clevshinson or Cleverson sound better than Scholrick and don't get me started on Carrickholes (U2024)
posted 25 minutes ago
If he can get his form back from the beginning of last season, and keep it at that level, then he will make it here.
He has the ability. He just needs consistancy.
He isn't on Nani's level when both are at their best but he isn't too shoddy either. He was marvelous v West Brom last season as an example
I'll judge him after a run of games staying fit
==============
How dare you try to be logical here!!!
Such behaviour is unacceptable, one bad game and get rid
posted on 4/12/12
but for every one of those you pick up a gem like vidic, evra, the twins.
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I know but we seem to get too many Dioufs, Youngs, Bebe's, Macheda's, Berbatov's, Kuscaskcs these days. Its really annoying.
posted on 4/12/12
HNIC
Macheda joined as a trainee at 16 ffs. Hardly similar
posted on 4/12/12
Macheda joined as a trainee at 16 ffs. Hardly similar
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Still crap. I know the manager gets some gems but the crap outweighs the good.
I just wish he would sign a promising young midfielder or someone who can spark some excitement in the team.
posted on 4/12/12
Diouf - decent player, doing well in Germany, signed for roughly 5m. Never given a chance here
Bebe - signed for 4.5m, looks decent in the reserves and has a better goal to game ration for us than Torres has for Chelsea
Macheda - signed for next to nothing.
Berbatov - instrumental in our 19th league title win when Rooney was on sabbatical. Highest goal scorer, treated like garbage by the manager and has since gone
Kusczak - again, signed for less than 5m and had a few decent performances
You cannot have a squad filled with world class players in every position. It just wouldn't work, you need guys like the people above to do a job as and when required
posted on 4/12/12
Dioufs, Youngs, Bebe's, Macheda's, Berbatov's, Kuscaskcs these days. Its really annoying.
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diouf - hardly a big signing, got a bit back
Youngs - on his day is a decent squad player to have
Bebe's - strange one granted
Macheda's - came through the youth system
Berbatov's, - his goals were a big contribution in winning the league
PIG - decent back up, were are seeing the problem in having two decent keepers who think they should be playing. - pig was a decent backup to edwin.
cant see your problem here to be honest ninja.
posted on 4/12/12
Bebe - signed for 4.5m, looks decent in the reserves and has a better goal to game ration for us than Torres has for Chelsea
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The hilarity of Torres never ceases.
posted on 4/12/12
You cannot have a squad filled with world class players in every position. It just wouldn't work, you need guys like the people above to do a job as and when required
----------
I dont world class just some ability!
Too many workhorses and not enough technical ability or guile or make something happen.
Those players you named must have cost over £70 million in wages and transfer fee's yet they will always be remembered as flops. It upsets me to see money wasted that way when we know we cant spend like City Chelsea etc.
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