Sorry bud. That doesn't appeal.

If I was losing Ramos I'd need Busquets involved in the deal to cover the loss defensively.

Ozil + Busquets + Ivanovic + Baines + Lewandowski
=
Hamsik + De Rossi + Ramos + Schmelzer + Forlan

--------------------------------------------------
to gain once i am not willing to lose 4 times

ozil >> hamsik
busquets > de rossi
baines >> Schmelzer
Lewandowski >> forlan

vidic and rooney for ramos and mata

I'd be losing Ramos for Vidic who's only just coming back from injury as well as Mata who was player of the season on this last year for a subsitute of yours. Need to even it up a bit before I'd consider How about:

Mata + Ramos + Higuain
=
Rooney + Vidic + RVP
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not a chance, vidic was still rated as one of the best cbs on here last year and thats when he was injured, and its not like rooneys out of my side because hes crap, i just dont want to play with 2 strikers

Moutinho + Reus + Villa
=
De Rossi + Hamsik + Higuain/Hulk
-----------------
Not a fan of Hamsik and rate Reus very high so no can do mate.

Top first team Park

Silva + Aguero + Essien for Mata + Higuain + de Rossi

enq

ramos higuain hamsik
=
ivanovic ibrahimovic Lewandowski

Yaya + Puyol for de Rossi + Ramos?

you have a quality dm and a good playmaker

higuain < ibrahimovic
hamsik < Lewandowski

--------------Modric-----De Rossi-----------------
------Mata----------------------------Hulk----------
------------------ibrahimovic---------------------
-----------------Lewandowski----------------------

Ok mate. Think that's a fair deal for us both.

Can add Gomez for Hig? Think Gomez is better suited for your formation and Hig for mine.

Bale is comfortably better than Hamsik. If you changed him to Mata then maybe but the best deal for us both I'd say is what I offered with Gomez.

Cole + Cesar + Silva + Cleverley + Pique
=
Schmelzer + Cech + Hulk + Modric + Badstuber

talk me through this one

Aguero > Higuain though so I'm losing out.

Puyol is still a top defender. Gomez in a lone striker role is > Higuain. In a 4-2-3-1 Gomez is better, in a 4-4-1-1 Higuain is better so it makes sense for us both.

Can include Cech - Buffon?

Cech + Badstuber
=
Howedes

good offer but its evans i want to offload

ive sold rooney, now, wouldnt have accepted anyway, i have cash to spend on bringing in some squad improvements

Schmelzer < Cole
Cech > Cesar
Hulk < Silva
Modric >> Cleverley
Badstuber < Pique

you can't say modric >> cleverley if

silva only > hulk
pique only > badstuber
cole only > schmelzer

would be a terrible deal for me

How about simply...

de Rossi + Higuain for Gomez + Yaya? Enq.

Can't lose Chiellini for Badstuber I'm afraid and not Hulk's biggest fan.

Cech + Mata
=
Reina + Iniesta
-------

Good thought but would be looking to improve more than just GK to lose Iniesta.

Benzema + Gerrard
For
Higuain + Modric

Benzema > Higuain
Gerrard >= Modric on current form

Enq

If I added that would you add Ramos for Puyol?

Hmm would you not just do Yaya Gomez for de Rossi and Higuain? Makes sense for both.

Veloso + Navas + Benzema
For
Hamsik + Gomez + Mata

Yaya is best as a box to box MF. Push him alongside Modric with Veloso DM. Benzema > Gomez on here for sure as well.


------------------------Cech-----------------------------
Richards------Ramos------Badstuber---Schmelzer

-------------------------Veloso---------------------------

-------------------Yaya-------Modric------------------

--------Navas-----------------------------Hulk-----------

-----------------------Benzema--------------------------

Our posts crossed.

Can't do your suggestion. Losing twice to gain a minor amount with Hamsik. Not going to happen.

Ok mate deal.