Standing will never be brought back in to the game in England!
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I think lessons have certainly been learned and it can be safe. However this is the UK so the first sign of problems and it will be blown up and the FA lambasted.
I agree, I don't think it will be brought back. Like you say RAP crowd control is the issue.
Interesting to see Aston Villa backing the proposal though...
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What makes you so sure redrob?
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We shall see, I hope it makes a return.
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I love standing at the game! The atmosphere is 10 times better than just sitting there and the problem years ago was not standing but over crowding, resulting in crush. I just can't see the fa and government going for it!
It won't happen. Obvious reasons as to why it won't happen, too.
I can't really make my mind up whether I am in favour or not.
I stand up at Peterborough, and I when I went to Liverpool v Anzhi recently the Kop stood up any time anything remotely exciting happened.
I know the appeal of standing and I prefer it to seating, but at the same time, I think English football has benefitted from all seater stadia in a big way, and I am not sure as a society that cheaper tickets and more morons at games that will almost inevitably bring is a good thing.
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There is two sides to the coin, on the one hand cheaper tickets and potentially a better atmosphere at games. On the other a risk of the cheaper tickets alluring less then savoury characters back to matches and a return to hooliganism is possible, yet in my view unlikely.
Also, if it were too make a return, how do you think it would happen. At Anfield for example, one standing area being the Kop, or at least part of it, and another at the Annie Rd end for away fans? With the Cen + Main stand remaining all seater?
It would certainly be interesting if it were to ever make a return
That should read, would certainly be interesting to see how it would work if it were to return.
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I don't think they will bring back the standing terraces.
If they do, I can't see it at Anfield of all places.
Another thing is people. People have changed. Back in the 60/70/80s, people would pee through their rolled up programmes. Can you imagine that in this day ? "Arr lad, you've pissd all ova me wheels"
The reason people piśśed where they stood was because they used to be packed in so tight, once you where there, you where there. Pay at the gate and in you went, where as under new standing areas there would be so much more room!
Only if clubs/FA can ensure its 100% safe. It also needs the attitude of standing fans to change/accept being in a standing area. (pushing, being pushed, violence, stewarding, identifying trouble makers)
I personally can't see it happening, but miss watching on the terraces
Fellaini is spot on if safety can be eunsured 100% then it could be brought back.
However you can never guarantee anything 100%
I have to say after Hilsborough and especially being a Liverpool fan i would expect Liverpool Football Club to always be a fully seated ground no matter what other clubs do.
The memories i have standing on the kop were a million times better than any i can recall since 94 when the kop was closed.
The reason people piśśed where they stood was because they used to be packed in so tight, once you where there, you where there. Pay at the gate and in you went, where as under new standing areas there would be so much more room!
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This is true, in existing standing areas in the football league, the safety measures in place mean that even in a 'full' stand, there is plenty of room for manoeuvre.
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Standing will never be brought back in to the game in England!
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I think lessons have certainly been learned and it can be safe. However this is the UK so the first sign of problems and it will be blown up and the FA lambasted.
posted on 11/12/12
I agree, I don't think it will be brought back. Like you say RAP crowd control is the issue.
Interesting to see Aston Villa backing the proposal though...
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What makes you so sure redrob?
posted on 11/12/12
Yeah, it'll be back.
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posted on 11/12/12
We shall see, I hope it makes a return.
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posted on 11/12/12
I love standing at the game! The atmosphere is 10 times better than just sitting there and the problem years ago was not standing but over crowding, resulting in crush. I just can't see the fa and government going for it!
posted on 11/12/12
It won't happen. Obvious reasons as to why it won't happen, too.
posted on 11/12/12
I can't really make my mind up whether I am in favour or not.
I stand up at Peterborough, and I when I went to Liverpool v Anzhi recently the Kop stood up any time anything remotely exciting happened.
I know the appeal of standing and I prefer it to seating, but at the same time, I think English football has benefitted from all seater stadia in a big way, and I am not sure as a society that cheaper tickets and more morons at games that will almost inevitably bring is a good thing.
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posted on 11/12/12
There is two sides to the coin, on the one hand cheaper tickets and potentially a better atmosphere at games. On the other a risk of the cheaper tickets alluring less then savoury characters back to matches and a return to hooliganism is possible, yet in my view unlikely.
Also, if it were too make a return, how do you think it would happen. At Anfield for example, one standing area being the Kop, or at least part of it, and another at the Annie Rd end for away fans? With the Cen + Main stand remaining all seater?
It would certainly be interesting if it were to ever make a return
posted on 11/12/12
That should read, would certainly be interesting to see how it would work if it were to return.
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posted on 11/12/12
I don't think they will bring back the standing terraces.
If they do, I can't see it at Anfield of all places.
Another thing is people. People have changed. Back in the 60/70/80s, people would pee through their rolled up programmes. Can you imagine that in this day ? "Arr lad, you've pissd all ova me wheels"
posted on 11/12/12
The reason people piśśed where they stood was because they used to be packed in so tight, once you where there, you where there. Pay at the gate and in you went, where as under new standing areas there would be so much more room!
posted on 11/12/12
Only if clubs/FA can ensure its 100% safe. It also needs the attitude of standing fans to change/accept being in a standing area. (pushing, being pushed, violence, stewarding, identifying trouble makers)
I personally can't see it happening, but miss watching on the terraces
posted on 11/12/12
Fellaini is spot on if safety can be eunsured 100% then it could be brought back.
However you can never guarantee anything 100%
I have to say after Hilsborough and especially being a Liverpool fan i would expect Liverpool Football Club to always be a fully seated ground no matter what other clubs do.
The memories i have standing on the kop were a million times better than any i can recall since 94 when the kop was closed.
posted on 11/12/12
The reason people piśśed where they stood was because they used to be packed in so tight, once you where there, you where there. Pay at the gate and in you went, where as under new standing areas there would be so much more room!
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This is true, in existing standing areas in the football league, the safety measures in place mean that even in a 'full' stand, there is plenty of room for manoeuvre.
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