Personally I believe that a play off place is possible if we can string results together but to do that we HAVE to sort out the defence. I doubt that can be done in this window so in my opinion we should realistically aim for a top half finish this season and look to rebuild in the summer for a proper push at automatic promotion next time.
For the reserves? I thought Mavies was out for 3 months... Personally, I think Wheater's return is the most important.
I thought Ream was decent enough last season, and now I expect him to kick on after his recent good form. Could our defensive fortunes change drastically, without having to sign anyone?
Clearly a playoff place is possible. Maybe even go so far as saying 'probable'.
It is very tight between 6th and 16th. Apart from the top 2 or 3, every team is very inconsistent.
Good luck to the injured lads tonight.
I really believe with those 3 back in the team we will be formidable. We need to stop ar5ing about with these rubbish bit part players like Andrews and pratley, ream and mears and get a proper team working together.
Still seeing so much SKD bashing.....it is still baffling me...nobody has yet given a good reason for it
Clegg its not SKD bashing. Its getting away from a tired formula that we have used for many years and has the focal point of SKD being 36! Its trying something different and doing what we had hoped for back when OC first started - giving the kids a chance
i appreciate that sentiment, but we dont need experiments now. Its vitally important we get promoted, tried and tested should be our aim. Also, our issues arent up top, they are at the back. Some would say, you should defend from the front, which i agree with, but who better than SKD at that?
36 has nothing to do with it.
Giggs
Scholes
Friedel
K Philliips
etc
etc
All are proof that, if your good enough, your young enough
I think it's too late for this season. Although I live in hope. We are getting players back but so are other teams....it's all relative.
I have to disagree with you Clegg. Yes it was tried and tested, but SKD is not the player he was 2-3 years ago. I appreciate that he is one of our top scorers this season, but I put that more down to mins on the pitch. I still think SKD should defo be involved and in certain circumstances, i.e. a particular defence he would be up against or a ref taking the game, he should start, but I don't want to keep seeing us playing in the same way and giving the ball away by hoofing it up the pitch.
Ball retention has always been one of our worst attributes as a team for many years and that has always involved SKD waving his arms for a long ball up from defence. We need to play smarter, i.e. Swansea and Liverpool under BR and learn to keep hold of the ball. Long ball would work with SKD if we had someone with a really good delivery, but without a good dead-ball specialist or a player that can pick out a long pass, then its simply giving the ball away to the opposition each and every time - not necessarily SKDs fault though, but its just something we shouldn't be doing.
"36 has nothing to do with it.
Giggs
Scholes
Friedel
K Philliips
etc
etc"
Are any of the player you mention above focal players for their team? Are any of the above strikers who should be scoring at least 15 goals per season? The answer is no. As CEF says it has become a tired formula that doesnt have the desired impact anymore. It's simply time for SKD to take more of a back seat kind of role.
Back on topic, unfortunately I am lead to believe that Mavies and Wheater will not feature in tonights game and both are set to come back around a month or so.
WB DF has confirmed otherwise mate:
http://www.lionofviennasuite.com/2013/1/8/3850220/dougie-freedman-confirms-mark-davies-and-david-wheater-reserve
http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/wanderersnews/10147698._/?
JAH, I would love us to get promoted but on a realistic note it's not on.
We will still have setbacks unless we are extremely lucky and that doesn't seem to be in the stars for us, so I think we have to rebuild for next season and hope that we get the rub of the green.
As far as Kevin Davies is concerned, if you went to the boxing day game you will know why we need him. At the moment he is a must start up front. That could change but certainly not in the next six weeks.
Holden came through 65 mins unscathed. We won 3-0.
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posted on 8/1/13
Personally I believe that a play off place is possible if we can string results together but to do that we HAVE to sort out the defence. I doubt that can be done in this window so in my opinion we should realistically aim for a top half finish this season and look to rebuild in the summer for a proper push at automatic promotion next time.
posted on 8/1/13
For the reserves? I thought Mavies was out for 3 months... Personally, I think Wheater's return is the most important.
I thought Ream was decent enough last season, and now I expect him to kick on after his recent good form. Could our defensive fortunes change drastically, without having to sign anyone?
posted on 8/1/13
Clearly a playoff place is possible. Maybe even go so far as saying 'probable'.
It is very tight between 6th and 16th. Apart from the top 2 or 3, every team is very inconsistent.
Good luck to the injured lads tonight.
posted on 8/1/13
I really believe with those 3 back in the team we will be formidable. We need to stop ar5ing about with these rubbish bit part players like Andrews and pratley, ream and mears and get a proper team working together.
Still seeing so much SKD bashing.....it is still baffling me...nobody has yet given a good reason for it
posted on 8/1/13
Clegg its not SKD bashing. Its getting away from a tired formula that we have used for many years and has the focal point of SKD being 36! Its trying something different and doing what we had hoped for back when OC first started - giving the kids a chance
posted on 8/1/13
i appreciate that sentiment, but we dont need experiments now. Its vitally important we get promoted, tried and tested should be our aim. Also, our issues arent up top, they are at the back. Some would say, you should defend from the front, which i agree with, but who better than SKD at that?
36 has nothing to do with it.
Giggs
Scholes
Friedel
K Philliips
etc
etc
All are proof that, if your good enough, your young enough
posted on 8/1/13
I think it's too late for this season. Although I live in hope. We are getting players back but so are other teams....it's all relative.
posted on 8/1/13
I have to disagree with you Clegg. Yes it was tried and tested, but SKD is not the player he was 2-3 years ago. I appreciate that he is one of our top scorers this season, but I put that more down to mins on the pitch. I still think SKD should defo be involved and in certain circumstances, i.e. a particular defence he would be up against or a ref taking the game, he should start, but I don't want to keep seeing us playing in the same way and giving the ball away by hoofing it up the pitch.
Ball retention has always been one of our worst attributes as a team for many years and that has always involved SKD waving his arms for a long ball up from defence. We need to play smarter, i.e. Swansea and Liverpool under BR and learn to keep hold of the ball. Long ball would work with SKD if we had someone with a really good delivery, but without a good dead-ball specialist or a player that can pick out a long pass, then its simply giving the ball away to the opposition each and every time - not necessarily SKDs fault though, but its just something we shouldn't be doing.
posted on 8/1/13
"36 has nothing to do with it.
Giggs
Scholes
Friedel
K Philliips
etc
etc"
Are any of the player you mention above focal players for their team? Are any of the above strikers who should be scoring at least 15 goals per season? The answer is no. As CEF says it has become a tired formula that doesnt have the desired impact anymore. It's simply time for SKD to take more of a back seat kind of role.
Back on topic, unfortunately I am lead to believe that Mavies and Wheater will not feature in tonights game and both are set to come back around a month or so.
posted on 8/1/13
WB DF has confirmed otherwise mate:
http://www.lionofviennasuite.com/2013/1/8/3850220/dougie-freedman-confirms-mark-davies-and-david-wheater-reserve
posted on 8/1/13
http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/wanderersnews/10147698._/?
posted on 9/1/13
JAH, I would love us to get promoted but on a realistic note it's not on.
We will still have setbacks unless we are extremely lucky and that doesn't seem to be in the stars for us, so I think we have to rebuild for next season and hope that we get the rub of the green.
As far as Kevin Davies is concerned, if you went to the boxing day game you will know why we need him. At the moment he is a must start up front. That could change but certainly not in the next six weeks.
posted on 9/1/13
Holden came through 65 mins unscathed. We won 3-0.
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