Normally thats how I would gauge a teams status, by what they achieve.I think that there was very little between them tbh. Would probably say MONs team just edged it. I did say they were unlucky not to qualify and also WGS teams didnt have the Suttons n Larssons etc which made his achievments all the more comendable. Yes, towards the end of his time the team were down but it has to be remebered the board instructed him yes we will back you but the emphasis was to be quantity, with the hope of unearthing another Henrik or Lubo etc and not quality, which MON had the luxury of.
I disagree with your post - I don't think either team has a chance anymore of qualifying unless we luck in along the way. As was pointed out earlier the coefficients have meant we are seeded lower than in the mid 2000s when Rangers were the first Scottish team to qualify for the latter stages, and Celtic impressively followed up by doing it twice.
Secondly, I feel both managers (McLeish and Strachan) were miles better than their current day equivalents.
Thirdly, if you honestly believe either team now could be said to be better than back then, you have to be deluded! As you so often point out, Rangers lack real quality with the exception of a strong spine. Celtic again have a few decent players and a large amount of unknown foreign duffers.
The Rangers team of 05/06 had the quality of Ferguson, Ricksen, Lovenkrands, Buffell, Prso. All who would walk into the current team.
The Celtic team of 06/07 had Boruc, Thomson, JVOH, Miller, Nakamura, Zurawski who again would walk into your team. Your central defenders were Scotlands first choice at the time, and both are now worth far more than either of us could manage to afford now.
Finally, as was pointed out below, there are no 'easy teams' anymore. The eastern teams are bankrolled by Billionaires, the rest are catching up.
The sad fact is, both teams will continue to struggle to even qualify for the Champions League, and when we do the chances of finishing in the top two are slimmer still!
The Myth Of Champions League Football
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posted on 28/7/11
Nautius - then by your reckoning the WGS team was better than the ONeil team because it achieved more?
posted on 28/7/11
Normally thats how I would gauge a teams status, by what they achieve.I think that there was very little between them tbh. Would probably say MONs team just edged it. I did say they were unlucky not to qualify and also WGS teams didnt have the Suttons n Larssons etc which made his achievments all the more comendable. Yes, towards the end of his time the team were down but it has to be remebered the board instructed him yes we will back you but the emphasis was to be quantity, with the hope of unearthing another Henrik or Lubo etc and not quality, which MON had the luxury of.
posted on 29/7/11
I disagree with your post - I don't think either team has a chance anymore of qualifying unless we luck in along the way. As was pointed out earlier the coefficients have meant we are seeded lower than in the mid 2000s when Rangers were the first Scottish team to qualify for the latter stages, and Celtic impressively followed up by doing it twice.
Secondly, I feel both managers (McLeish and Strachan) were miles better than their current day equivalents.
Thirdly, if you honestly believe either team now could be said to be better than back then, you have to be deluded! As you so often point out, Rangers lack real quality with the exception of a strong spine. Celtic again have a few decent players and a large amount of unknown foreign duffers.
The Rangers team of 05/06 had the quality of Ferguson, Ricksen, Lovenkrands, Buffell, Prso. All who would walk into the current team.
The Celtic team of 06/07 had Boruc, Thomson, JVOH, Miller, Nakamura, Zurawski who again would walk into your team. Your central defenders were Scotlands first choice at the time, and both are now worth far more than either of us could manage to afford now.
Finally, as was pointed out below, there are no 'easy teams' anymore. The eastern teams are bankrolled by Billionaires, the rest are catching up.
The sad fact is, both teams will continue to struggle to even qualify for the Champions League, and when we do the chances of finishing in the top two are slimmer still!
posted on 29/7/11
Secondly, I feel both managers (McLeish and Strachan) were miles better than their current day equivalents
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Ecosse....are you talking about Walter or Ally here?
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