Yes he was the focal point for West Ham. he started 10 games out of the 12 for them and netted 7 goals. Piquionne has played a lot of his career on the wing for Saint Etienne and Lyon.

we better offload that spanish madwoman pronto then

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I like how Don is using my "stats are very important" quote but forgetting I also said that you shouldnt use stats as your whole argument.

Which is what Don is doing

Try spelling player's names correctly before insulting other peoples' intelligence

See youve given yourself a thumbs up as well must be an age thing all these little characters. Everyones overrated yet our players are great . We finished 6th last season !! 25 points behind the manc teams that to me says they probably just might have better players than us.

That doesn't make him the focal point. As far as I remember they played 433 often and Ba was stuck out on the left a lot of the time in order for Keane to play centrally. Ba also didn't have the luxury of playing for a top 4 team and was instead playing for a team that was relegated. Was put on the wing for a few months at Newcastle, yet he has more goals than Dzeko in England in less appearance. Stats are very important for an attacker

Half our team is new. City have a load of players in their or near their peaks. We have a load of first season players who are still adjusting to each other and the new situation, and they're mainly not at their peak.

I'm not using it as my whole argument. You were laughing off the suggestion that Ba might be better than Dzeko, which is ridiculous. Stats are important for an attacking player and Ba has the better stats

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I'm sorry, *very important

Don, Keane started 5 games for West ham and 4 sub appearances in the PL. Ba started 10 games and 2 sub appearances. You tell me who was the more important played and shoved to the wing?

Also playing as the main man at a struggling team does wonders for your stats. Remember Andy Johnson who scored 21 goals for the relegated Crystal Palace in the PL?

Stats are very important for an attacker

I'm not using it as my whole argument. You were laughing off the suggestion that Ba might be better than Dzeko, which is ridiculous. Stats are important for an attacking player and Ba has the better stats
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Where did I laugh? I just disagreed. I never laugh at stuff my fellow fans say. I just asked you/BK to explain.

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Knockout competitions also turn your attention away from the league so no the league isn't a truer reflection when you're resting players for what you consider more important games. And aside from that we have a completely different squad to last season.

You think Keane was played on the wing? You think Cole was played on the wing? They had to use Ba on the wings just like he was used at Newcastle in order to accomodate the team in there 433. Not denying that he didn't play CF at all, but there attack certainly didn't revolve around him. He just scored goals

After January West Ham won 3 games out of 14. Dzeko has had the luxury of playing with better players around him and yet hasn't got as many goals. Ba's West ham team finished 20th

'Honestly. Some people need to stop this.'

Like it is a crime to say that Ba is better than Dzeko as BK said

You think Keane was played on the wing? You think Cole was played on the wing? They had to use Ba on the wings just like he was used at Newcastle in order to accomodate the team in there 433. Not denying that he didn't play CF at all, but there attack certainly didn't revolve around him. He just scored goals
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Again, Keane has played on the wing for Liverpool and Tottenham. His natural style of play is him drifting to the wing.

Ba may have played one or two games on the wing but the majority of it was at CF and he played every game for West Ham when he was there which isn't the case for Keane.

After January West Ham won 3 games out of 14. Dzeko has had the luxury of playing with better players around him and yet hasn't got as many goals. Ba's West ham team finished 20th
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Like I said playing for a crap team does wonders for your statistics. The only player to score more goals than Andy Johnson in that season was Thierry Henry. Andy Johnson's Crystal palace team got relegated and have never been promoted back in the top flight.

Like it is a crime to say that Ba is better than Dzeko as BK said
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I didn't laugh though...

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Sideshow

Don is very determined here. He tracked down my comments on other articles to try and beat me here. I give him props for the dedication.

I'm just really good at wriggling out of these situations.

Like it is a crime to say that Ba is better than Dzeko as BK said

No crime at all thats the beauty of the game , different opinions. I just get hacked off on here when instead of sensible debate & respect for other peoples opinions some posters turn to ridicule, silly childish smiley faces & smart ass comments. Most Chelsea fans would probably say Ba is better , Man City fans dzeko. Would be interesting to hear what other teams fans think

His natural style isn't to play on the wing? Where are you getting that from?! Keane has always been a CF. That's his position. Ba's played on the wings which is why he was played there at West Ham. Cole was also rotated in the CF position with Keane too. Look at there games, they had Keane or Cole starting along with Ba. Then there was rotation with Piquionne etc. They certainly didn't have Ba as the focal point.

So your telling with your one example of Andy Johnson, you are more likely to score more goals in a team that finishes 20th than a team that finished 3rd with the likes of Silva etc around. Let's look at this logically Saint

"smart ass comments" aka not agreeing with you

No I was reading that Walcott and Bale article when I saw that comment and it applied to this article against you. Also, you haven't wriggled yourself out of anything